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All Blacks 2024

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    Darry left the Crusaders longterm plans-so he's out. Akira and possibly Hoskins won't be at the Blues next year, two of their best ... hard not to see a long term tinfoil hat plan here. I don't know what the conspiracy theory is regards A J Lam and Plummer mind..

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      @gt12 no I just heard on radio today that they’d had a meeting and Razor gave him work ons. Then all he said was we went with someone else. I took that as he hadn’t achieved the work ons.
      I know a massive thing they talk about with loosies, is not being a Log. I’ll leave all you blues supporters to work out what that is.

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      @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @gt12 no I just heard on radio today that they’d had a meeting and Razor gave him work ons. Then all he said was we went with someone else. I took that as he hadn’t achieved the work ons.
      I know a massive thing they talk about with loosies, is not being a Log. I’ll leave all you blues supporters to work out what that is.

      No I don't know how Sotutu is a log. How many logs have his stats? Certainly not a suitcase.

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        @gt12 no I just heard on radio today that they’d had a meeting and Razor gave him work ons. Then all he said was we went with someone else. I took that as he hadn’t achieved the work ons.
        I know a massive thing they talk about with loosies, is not being a Log. I’ll leave all you blues supporters to work out what that is.

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        @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        I took that as he hadn’t achieved the work ons.

        Ahh so your take and not actually from the team? He probably achieved them then...he definitely doesn't log.

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          @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Kirwan you do realise he selected Sititi over Sotutu. So nothing to do with Crusaders bias.
          That doesn’t suit your narrative though does it.

          you were asked about your narrative. How do you know there were workons, what were they?

          Edit: ah you answered. So you don't know.

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          @nostrildamus nah just what I heard on radio this morning.
          I love Blackadder as a player. Not because he’s a crusader. Because he’s a bloody good player. But I also agree that he’s always injured. He won’t see out the whole test season. He’s that annoying unco guy at training that always hurts his teammates too.

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            @antipodean can the penalty stats be broken down to what they were for?

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              @nostrildamus nah just what I heard on radio this morning.
              I love Blackadder as a player. Not because he’s a crusader. Because he’s a bloody good player. But I also agree that he’s always injured. He won’t see out the whole test season. He’s that annoying unco guy at training that always hurts his teammates too.

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              @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @nostrildamus nah just what I heard on radio this morning.
              I love Blackadder as a player. Not because he’s a crusader. Because he’s a bloody good player. But I also agree that he’s always injured. He won’t see out the whole test season. He’s that annoying unco guy at training that always hurts his teammates too.

              I think I may actually agree with you. It's just hard on those loosies that play all season with enthusiasm (cos I also like Harmon).

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                Darry left the Crusaders longterm plans-so he's out. Akira and possibly Hoskins won't be at the Blues next year, two of their best ... hard not to see a long term tinfoil hat plan here. I don't know what the conspiracy theory is regards A J Lam and Plummer mind..

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                @nostrildamus I think Razor would probably agree that he got that one wrong. They chose to take Zach Gallagher and knew they had Jamie Hannah amd Taylor Cahill coming thru.
                So far Darry is the best out of them all.

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                  @nostrildamus I think Razor would probably agree that he got that one wrong. They chose to take Zach Gallagher and knew they had Jamie Hannah amd Taylor Cahill coming thru.
                  So far Darry is the best out of them all.

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                  @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @nostrildamus I think Razor would probably agree that he got that one wrong. They chose to take Zach Gallagher and knew they had Jamie Hannah amd Taylor Cahill coming thru.
                  So far Darry is the best out of them all.

                  And now Gallagher is joining the Canes so is he going to not select him aswell if/when he puts his hand up?

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                    Really good interview with Scott Hansen on Aotearoa rugby pod. Talks a lot about Hoskins in it

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                      @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      I took that as he hadn’t achieved the work ons.

                      Ahh so your take and not actually from the team? He probably achieved them then...he definitely doesn't log.

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                      @Bones I think you should watch him more closely. Watch how much time he spends on the ground.

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                        @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @nostrildamus I think Razor would probably agree that he got that one wrong. They chose to take Zach Gallagher and knew they had Jamie Hannah amd Taylor Cahill coming thru.
                        So far Darry is the best out of them all.

                        And now Gallagher is joining the Canes so is he going to not select him aswell if/when he puts his hand up?

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                        @Canes4life I didn’t know that. He’s an amazing athlete but just can’t stay on the field. Bloody good kid. He'll be an asset if he can get his body right.

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                          Need a translation of log here - he spends too much time on the ground, ergo, lazy? No repeated efforts?

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                            Really good interview with Scott Hansen on Aotearoa rugby pod. Talks a lot about Hoskins in it

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                            @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            Really good interview with Scott Hansen on Aotearoa rugby pod. Talks a lot about Hoskins in it

                            What does he say?

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                              The pattern here is that it is better to be impactful off the bench then have a run of good starting games.

                              I think / hope Sititi will be very good, but his body of work is much more Frizell.

                              It’s worth remembering that Kaino was tried, failed (too loose) then came back a few years later. It doesn’t seem that Akira or Sotutu will get the chance.

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                                Need a translation of log here - he spends too much time on the ground, ergo, lazy? No repeated efforts?

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                                @gt12 left on ground

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                                  The pattern here is that it is better to be impactful off the bench then have a run of good starting games.

                                  I think / hope Sititi will be very good, but his body of work is much more Frizell.

                                  It’s worth remembering that Kaino was tried, failed (too loose) then came back a few years later. It doesn’t seem that Akira or Sotutu will get the chance.

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                                  @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  It doesn’t seem that Akira or Sotutu will get the chance.

                                  TBF, Akira has had the chances. Whether he would have pushed on this year given another chance, we'll never know.

                                  Sotutu a bit different and I think they've missed a trick here.

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                                    @antipodean can the penalty stats be broken down to what they were for?

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    @antipodean can the penalty stats be broken down to what they were for?

                                    I'm sure at SR/AB level they have that breakdown, but I just go off the publicly available ones.

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                                      @Bones I think you should watch him more closely. Watch how much time he spends on the ground.

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                                      @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @Bones I think you should watch him more closely. Watch how much time he spends on the ground.

                                      I've watched him plenty close enough. Spends less time on the ground than Finau for sure. And is involved in the game almost 100% more than Blackadder.

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                                        It is notable how many "repeat" involvements Sititi has, but that's probably a bit easier when you're off the bench and/or doing less tight work.

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                                          Now that I think about it, ironically Sititi really reminds me of a young Sotutu, just without the wide passing or grubber game.

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