All Blacks 2024
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Some of the other nations must be terrified how good Finau and Sititi could be given Ioane and Sotutu aren't even in the squad. This series will be interesting!
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
That's the concern isn't it - it appears on the face of it Blackadder has been selected in Akira's place, even though he's not a test 6s asshole. He's barely a test 7 given his lack of experience, though it is self evident that position best suits his skillset. The balance of the loose forwards is off because they couldn't seem to bring themselves to select Akira and Hoskins. It's only natural people want answers as to why they've done this, and they haven't provided any clear reasoning that I can see.
A mate who's also a tragic went back to look at Blackadder. His view was he was great putting the shoulder in people. But slow. Very slow. And very poor offensively.
I think he's your starting 6, and our lineout will struggle. And could be in trouble in the open field.
Hope I'm wrong though
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
A mate who's also a tragic went back to look at Blackadder. His view was he was great putting the shoulder in people.
Not good if your injuries have been shoulder related
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
A mate who's also a tragic went back to look at Blackadder. His view was he was great putting the shoulder in people.
Not good if your injuries have been shoulder related
@Nevorian said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
A mate who's also a tragic went back to look at Blackadder. His view was he was great putting the shoulder in people.
Not good if your injuries have been shoulder related
there may be a connection..
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Ethan's games as AB
http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/Profile.asp?ABID=1195(+) = substitute; (-) = replaced
2021
3 Jul vs Tonga at Auckland 102-0 (+)
10 Jul vs Fiji at Dunedin 57-23
5 Sep vs Australia at Perth 38-21 (+)
12 Sep vs Argentina at Robina 39-0 (+)
18 Sep vs Argentina at Brisbane 36-13
25 Sep vs South Africa at Townsville 19-17
2 Oct vs South Africa at Robina 29-31 (+)
30 Oct vs Wales at Cardiff 54-16
13 Nov vs Ireland at Dublin 20-29 (-)2023
5 Oct vs Uruguay at Lyon 73-0 (+) -
Ethan's games as AB
http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/Profile.asp?ABID=1195(+) = substitute; (-) = replaced
2021
3 Jul vs Tonga at Auckland 102-0 (+)
10 Jul vs Fiji at Dunedin 57-23
5 Sep vs Australia at Perth 38-21 (+)
12 Sep vs Argentina at Robina 39-0 (+)
18 Sep vs Argentina at Brisbane 36-13
25 Sep vs South Africa at Townsville 19-17
2 Oct vs South Africa at Robina 29-31 (+)
30 Oct vs Wales at Cardiff 54-16
13 Nov vs Ireland at Dublin 20-29 (-)2023
5 Oct vs Uruguay at Lyon 73-0 (+)@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Ethan's games as AB
http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/Profile.asp?ABID=1195(+) = substitute; (-) = replaced
2021
3 Jul vs Tonga at Auckland 102-0 (+)
10 Jul vs Fiji at Dunedin 57-23
5 Sep vs Australia at Perth 38-21 (+)
12 Sep vs Argentina at Robina 39-0 (+)
18 Sep vs Argentina at Brisbane 36-13
25 Sep vs South Africa at Townsville 19-17
2 Oct vs South Africa at Robina 29-31 (+)
30 Oct vs Wales at Cardiff 54-16
13 Nov vs Ireland at Dublin 20-29 (-)2023
5 Oct vs Uruguay at Lyon 73-0 (+)
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Ethan's games as AB
http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/Profile.asp?ABID=1195(+) = substitute; (-) = replaced
2021
3 Jul vs Tonga at Auckland 102-0 (+)
10 Jul vs Fiji at Dunedin 57-23
5 Sep vs Australia at Perth 38-21 (+)
12 Sep vs Argentina at Robina 39-0 (+)
18 Sep vs Argentina at Brisbane 36-13
25 Sep vs South Africa at Townsville 19-17
2 Oct vs South Africa at Robina 29-31 (+)
30 Oct vs Wales at Cardiff 54-16
13 Nov vs Ireland at Dublin 20-29 (-)2023
5 Oct vs Uruguay at Lyon 73-0 (+)@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Ethan's games as AB
13 Nov vs Ireland at Dublin 20-29The starting loose forward trio in this game was Blackadder-Papalii-Savea.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Ethan's games as AB
13 Nov vs Ireland at Dublin 20-29The starting loose forward trio in this game was Blackadder-Papalii-Savea.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Ethan's games as AB
13 Nov vs Ireland at Dublin 20-29The starting loose forward trio in this game was Blackadder-Papalii-Savea.
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Sam Cane with the team at the official launch today. Interesting.
Edit: Josh Lord as well.
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Sam Cane with the team at the official launch today. Interesting.
Edit: Josh Lord as well.
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Sam Cane with the team at the official launch today. Interesting.
Edit: Josh Lord as well.
Both not considered due to injury so neither out of the picture
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Sam Cane with the team at the official launch today. Interesting.
Edit: Josh Lord as well.
Both not considered due to injury so neither out of the picture
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Sam Cane with the team at the official launch today. Interesting.
Edit: Josh Lord as well.
Both not considered due to injury so neither out of the picture
Just adding in that they are in and around the team environment. A sign for TRC perhaps. Thought it was worth throwing in here.
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Sam Cane with the team at the official launch today. Interesting.
Edit: Josh Lord as well.
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Sam Cane with the team at the official launch today. Interesting.
Edit: Josh Lord as well.
Will Jordan there also.
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Looks like the season launch was at the Canes training base in Upper Hutt.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Ethan's games as AB
13 Nov vs Ireland at Dublin 20-29The starting loose forward trio in this game was Blackadder-Papalii-Savea.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Ethan's games as AB
13 Nov vs Ireland at Dublin 20-29The starting loose forward trio in this game was Blackadder-Papalii-Savea.
that Ireland game:
- Ethan Blackadder – 6
A big day at the office in defence with 20 tackles and plenty of starch in the trenches. Was penalised on a late hit hit on Sexton, it was obvious the blacks were trying to put the fly-half off his game. No work with the ball in hand and really needed to be given more of a chance to get some go forward. Off at 61.
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-ireland-autumn-nations-series/
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Looks like the season launch was at the Canes training base in Upper Hutt.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Looks like the season launch was at the Canes training base in Upper Hutt.
Yup they are training there until Sat, Sunday off then into Mon test week routine - I guess in Dunners
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@Billy-Tell Sticks and stones, pal, sticks and stones.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Billy-Tell Sticks and stones, pal, sticks and stones.
Sorry sparky but it’s just utterly silly to suggest skin colour was a selection criteria for Robertson. I’ve read a lot of ridiculous stuff in this forum, some of which I posted myself, but this is up there with the most ridiculous. Cmon man, trying to explain away selections by racism…
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Ethan's games as AB
13 Nov vs Ireland at Dublin 20-29The starting loose forward trio in this game was Blackadder-Papalii-Savea.
that Ireland game:
- Ethan Blackadder – 6
A big day at the office in defence with 20 tackles and plenty of starch in the trenches. Was penalised on a late hit hit on Sexton, it was obvious the blacks were trying to put the fly-half off his game. No work with the ball in hand and really needed to be given more of a chance to get some go forward. Off at 61.
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-ireland-autumn-nations-series/
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Ethan's games as AB
13 Nov vs Ireland at Dublin 20-29The starting loose forward trio in this game was Blackadder-Papalii-Savea.
that Ireland game:
- Ethan Blackadder – 6
A big day at the office in defence with 20 tackles and plenty of starch in the trenches. Was penalised on a late hit hit on Sexton, it was obvious the blacks were trying to put the fly-half off his game. No work with the ball in hand and really needed to be given more of a chance to get some go forward. Off at 61.
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-player-ratings-vs-ireland-autumn-nations-series/
That sounds about right. Busy, but inaccurate and not all that effective against the bigger packs. Offers zero with ball in hand which is a bit of a problem in the modern game. I'm just really battling to see how he can get selected every chance without any sort of body of work at even Super level let alone test? Is there someone in the know that can actually speak to why he is so favoured that they'd upset the balance of loosies selected just to make room for him?
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Sotutu would be stupid to not look closely at the England option. And surely, he has a break clause built into his NZR contract
https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/06/25/most-hated-hoskins-sotutu-reacts-after-all-blacks-snub/
Sotutu’s father, former Blues wing Waisake, was a Fiji vice-captain at the 1999 World Cup and his mother was born in England. The Times of London newspaper has already published a story suggesting Hoskins could represent that nation as early as next year via that link.
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I read Fiji is a much easier path for him but can't imagine the pay is great.
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I wouldn't put racism down as the reason for selections, but there is probably a culture clash between the boys from South Auckland and the coaches from Canterbury. Better coaches would figure out how to get the best out of all of their players, e.g. Cotter and Henry, rather than cast them aside with vague comments about "work-ons" despite them dominating at Super level.
