All Blacks 2024
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Victor-Meldrew so.... absolutely nothing clear about it at all?
I take it all back. Clearly, he's absolutely ecstatic and certainly isn't upset and pissed off at not being selected.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Victor-Meldrew so.... absolutely nothing clear about it at all?
I take it all back. Clearly, he's absolutely ecstatic and certainly isn't upset and pissed off at not being selected.
Is he supposed to be happy about it?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Re Hoskins: The elephant in the room is how the coaching setup has handled the situation. We don't know what was said during the SR season and before the squad announcement, but Sotutu is clearly upset/pissed off.
From a man-management perspective that is an appallingly bad look.
No doubt they've done something in the background. I mean it's supposed to be the strength of Razor isn't it?
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Re Hoskins: The elephant in the room is how the coaching setup has handled the situation. We don't know what was said during the SR season and before the squad announcement, but Sotutu is clearly upset/pissed off.
From a man-management perspective that is an appallingly bad look.
No doubt they've done something in the background. I mean it's supposed to be the strength of Razor isn't it?
On reflection, It's possible that he has an attitude problem of some kind which they didn't like - as well as the work-ons. Maybe his SM reaction confirmed that?
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
So just hearing that Cullen Grace is also in Wellington if true that makes 41
Cullen Grace was named in the Maori squad?
Yeah he is I thought they are already training they play this Saturday.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Cullen Grace was named in the Maori squad?
Yeah he is I thought they are already training they play this Saturday.
The Māori team flew to Japan today. We'll know soon enough if Grace wasn't on the plane.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Re Hoskins: The elephant in the room is how the coaching setup has handled the situation. We don't know what was said during the SR season and before the squad announcement, but Sotutu is clearly upset/pissed off.
From a man-management perspective that is an appallingly bad look.
No doubt they've done something in the background. I mean it's supposed to be the strength of Razor isn't it?
On reflection, It's possible that he has an attitude problem of some kind which they didn't like - as well as the work-ons. Maybe his SM reaction confirmed that?
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Re Hoskins: The elephant in the room is how the coaching setup has handled the situation. We don't know what was said during the SR season and before the squad announcement, but Sotutu is clearly upset/pissed off.
From a man-management perspective that is an appallingly bad look.
No doubt they've done something in the background. I mean it's supposed to be the strength of Razor isn't it?
On reflection, It's possible that he has an attitude problem of some kind which they didn't like - as well as the work-ons. Maybe his SM reaction confirmed that?
Then you'd expect Leon would've put that misconception to rest.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Victor-Meldrew so.... absolutely nothing clear about it at all?
I take it all back. Clearly, he's absolutely ecstatic and certainly isn't upset and pissed off at not being selected.
Is he supposed to be happy about it?
Who would be?@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Victor-Meldrew so.... absolutely nothing clear about it at all?
I take it all back. Clearly, he's absolutely ecstatic and certainly isn't upset and pissed off at not being selected.
Is he supposed to be happy about it?
Who would be?It was more a comment on how the coaching set up handled the situation.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Re Hoskins: The elephant in the room is how the coaching setup has handled the situation. We don't know what was said during the SR season and before the squad announcement, but Sotutu is clearly upset/pissed off.
From a man-management perspective that is an appallingly bad look.
No doubt they've done something in the background. I mean it's supposed to be the strength of Razor isn't it?
On reflection, It's possible that he has an attitude problem of some kind which they didn't like - as well as the work-ons. Maybe his SM reaction confirmed that?
Then you'd expect Leon would've put that misconception to rest.
Good point.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Victor-Meldrew so.... absolutely nothing clear about it at all?
I take it all back. Clearly, he's absolutely ecstatic and certainly isn't upset and pissed off at not being selected.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
He offers considerably more ball in hand than Papalii or Jacobsen
Gold
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
He offers considerably more ball in hand than Papalii or Jacobsen
Gold
Are you sarcasming me?
Blackadder only played what 3 games? So as I've already said he's a dodgy selection, but if you believe the Opta stats then in those games he carried more than twice as many times as DP's average and about 50% more than LJ. His carry metres were similarly better, his defenders beaten were double either of them, 4 offloads in 3 games to their 2 & 1 respectively in 14 games.
And minutes per game for all of them were in the 70s, so it's not like he's come on for 10 minutes and had a field day against tired blokes.
Fair enough if you've forgotten how he plays because it's a fucken rare sight, but if he actually makes it on the field then I reckon he unquestionably does offer more ball in hand than those guys. Doesn't make as many tackles though. -
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
The fact Love was running at 10 during that camp might tell you how big the gap is between those named and the next tier below that weren’t.
The next tier among those teams that didn't make the final
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
He offers considerably more ball in hand than Papalii or Jacobsen
Gold
Are you sarcasming me?
Blackadder only played what 3 games? So as I've already said he's a dodgy selection, but if you believe the Opta stats then in those games he carried more than twice as many times as DP's average and about 50% more than LJ. His carry metres were similarly better, his defenders beaten were double either of them, 4 offloads in 3 games to their 2 & 1 respectively in 14 games.
And minutes per game for all of them were in the 70s, so it's not like he's come on for 10 minutes and had a field day against tired blokes.
Fair enough if you've forgotten how he plays because it's a fucken rare sight, but if he actually makes it on the field then I reckon he unquestionably does offer more ball in hand than those guys. Doesn't make as many tackles though.@reprobate said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
He offers considerably more ball in hand than Papalii or Jacobsen
Gold
Are you sarcasming me?
Blackadder only played what 3 games? So as I've already said he's a dodgy selection, but if you believe the Opta stats then in those games he carried more than twice as many times as DP's average and about 50% more than LJ. His carry metres were similarly better, his defenders beaten were double either of them, 4 offloads in 3 games to their 2 & 1 respectively in 14 games.
And minutes per game for all of them were in the 70s, so it's not like he's come on for 10 minutes and had a field day against tired blokes.
Fair enough if you've forgotten how he plays because it's a fucken rare sight, but if he actually makes it on the field then I reckon he unquestionably does offer more ball in hand than those guys. Doesn't make as many tackles though.So he doesn't play both sides of the ball??
Seriously, I hope he can stay fit and silence all of us doubters -
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
He offers considerably more ball in hand than Papalii or Jacobsen
Gold
Are you sarcasming me?
Blackadder only played what 3 games? So as I've already said he's a dodgy selection, but if you believe the Opta stats then in those games he carried more than twice as many times as DP's average and about 50% more than LJ. His carry metres were similarly better, his defenders beaten were double either of them, 4 offloads in 3 games to their 2 & 1 respectively in 14 games.
And minutes per game for all of them were in the 70s, so it's not like he's come on for 10 minutes and had a field day against tired blokes.
Fair enough if you've forgotten how he plays because it's a fucken rare sight, but if he actually makes it on the field then I reckon he unquestionably does offer more ball in hand than those guys. Doesn't make as many tackles though.@reprobate was the rest of the team the same selection around those and the opponents the same?
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
The fact Love was running at 10 during that camp might tell you how big the gap is between those named and the next tier below that weren’t.
The next tier among those teams that didn't make the final
Haha yeah mate, hence why I said the gap between those named(Dmac and Perofeta were in the final).
Interesting they didn’t take a look at any other 10s that weren’t playing in the final is my point. Eg Someone they are eyeing up for AB’s XV.
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
The fact Love was running at 10 during that camp might tell you how big the gap is between those named and the next tier below that weren’t.
The next tier among those teams that didn't make the final
Haha yeah mate, hence why I said the gap between those named(Dmac and Perofeta were in the final).
Interesting they didn’t take a look at any other 10s that weren’t playing in the final is my point. Eg Someone they are eyeing up for AB’s XV.
I was referring to Plummer, who wasn't named, but also wasn't available for that camp as he was too busy preparing to kick 7 out of 7 in the final.
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just watching Sky open news and saw the team lining up for team photos. There were 40 players in the photo. Managed to freeze the picture and I.D. Josh Lord and Will Jordan as extras along with Darry, Bower, Lakai, Havilli and Love as expected.
Edit: plus Sam Cane.@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
just watching Sky open news and saw the team lining up for team photos. There were 40 players in the photo. Managed to freeze the picture and I.D. Josh Lord and Will Jordan as extras along with Darry, Bower, Lakai, Havilli and Love as expected.
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Talking to some mates about the size of the management group.
"At this stage all he'll have left to do is breakdance after the games"
@Bones I really hope he spares us that embarrassing sight.
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
The fact Love was running at 10 during that camp might tell you how big the gap is between those named and the next tier below that weren’t.
The next tier among those teams that didn't make the final
Haha yeah mate, hence why I said the gap between those named(Dmac and Perofeta were in the final).
Interesting they didn’t take a look at any other 10s that weren’t playing in the final is my point. Eg Someone they are eyeing up for AB’s XV.
I was referring to Plummer, who wasn't named, but also wasn't available for that camp as he was too busy preparing to kick 7 out of 7 in the final.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
The fact Love was running at 10 during that camp might tell you how big the gap is between those named and the next tier below that weren’t.
The next tier among those teams that didn't make the final
Haha yeah mate, hence why I said the gap between those named(Dmac and Perofeta were in the final).
Interesting they didn’t take a look at any other 10s that weren’t playing in the final is my point. Eg Someone they are eyeing up for AB’s XV.
I was referring to Plummer, who wasn't named, but also wasn't available for that camp as he was too busy preparing to kick 7 out of 7 in the final.
Ah of course, I actually forgot all about him somehow. I guess my point stands about the drop off from there then haha.
Plummer has overtaken Brett Cameron by a country mile already for me. Hope to see him get plenty of time at 10 for the AB XV.
