All Blacks 2024
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@Bones Taylor added. “I have so much respect for that. I love him as a bloke. He is a bloody top lad and I know everyone else in the team feels the same.”
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Bones Taylor added. “I have so much respect for that. I love him as a bloke. He is a bloody top lad and I know everyone else in the team feels the same.”
I believe they call that "hearsay"....
@Bones You'll have to ask Codie how he knows.
I think he's a pretty relatable guy. Didn't come through the usual rugby channels.
Didn't play rugby at High School until the 7th form - and then I think only for the third XV and because all his mates were playing.
Then Senior B in Nelson first year out of school - which is a pretty social grade.
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i really dont understand how eligibility works, whats the stand down? next ear seems very quick
Sorutu has birthright eligibility for England through his mother, so the stand down period needs to be 3 years if you want to play for another country.
Sotutu’s last game for the ABs was 19/11/2022.
So he is eligible on 20/11/2025.
He is contracted to the NZR until 2026 and England only select players from within England. So he would have to get early release and sign for an English club for later this year or start of the next season which would be August 2025
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While we can speculate on which loosie is better than the other what we do know is that they are all slightly different but all very very good.
We also know that we are no longer in the Mitchel days of coaching and I am sure the players missing out have been told what they need to do to get in .... in a position that has lots of injurys and with an ABs XV and Māori's and 14 tests this year. I'm pretty sure there will be room for Hoskins to show what he can do sometime this year.When you interview for jobs and have three outstanding candidates the final reason for picking one over the other can be quite frankly a coin toss. I dont think they actually tossed a coin but decided they had seen something they wanted just a tiny bit more in one player over the other.
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Lock, 10 and 12 are still the biggest holes to fill.
We've gone with three locks, two of which are slightly broken/injured, Two 15s who play 10 (well but are actually both best at 15) but no up and comers, and 1 specialist 12.
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Could we have some positivism about Sotutu, please? The man's got a skill set which is unique in New Zealand rugby. TWM ought to be focussed on how to get him to reach his potential, which if they succeed should have him remembered as a great All Black.
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Could we have some positivism about Sotutu, please? The man's got a skill set which is unique in New Zealand rugby. TWM ought to be focussed on how to get him to reach his potential, which if they succeed should have him remembered as a great All Black.
After all, at the end of the day, we're all in this together.@pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Could we have some positivism about Sotutu, please? The man's got a skill set which is unique in New Zealand rugby. TWM ought to be focussed on how to get him to reach his potential, which if they succeed should have him remembered as a great All Black.
After all, at the end of the day, we're all in this together.To be fair, Sititi so far has shades of Lauaki/Vunipola with a high work rate. So can't fault that selection.
It's just puzzling that a centre that can play 8 has no versatility and Josh Blackie reincarnated is preferred.
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We all know Blackadder is going to break, and then it will be interesting who they call in.
Will it be Grace or Sotutu?
Will the fern meltdown escalate?@Darren said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
We all know Blackadder is going to break, and then it will be interesting who they call in.
Will it be Grace or Sotutu?
Will the fern meltdown escalate?I have a feeling it would be Grace. If Savea broke I think it would be Sotutu.
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Ethan's games as AB
http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/Profile.asp?ABID=1195(+) = substitute; (-) = replaced
2021
3 Jul vs Tonga at Auckland 102-0 (+)
10 Jul vs Fiji at Dunedin 57-23
5 Sep vs Australia at Perth 38-21 (+)
12 Sep vs Argentina at Robina 39-0 (+)
18 Sep vs Argentina at Brisbane 36-13
25 Sep vs South Africa at Townsville 19-17
2 Oct vs South Africa at Robina 29-31 (+)
30 Oct vs Wales at Cardiff 54-16
13 Nov vs Ireland at Dublin 20-29 (-)2023
5 Oct vs Uruguay at Lyon 73-0 (+)@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Ethan's games as AB
http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/Profile.asp?ABID=1195(+) = substitute; (-) = replaced
2021
3 Jul vs Tonga at Auckland 102-0 (+)
10 Jul vs Fiji at Dunedin 57-23
5 Sep vs Australia at Perth 38-21 (+)
12 Sep vs Argentina at Robina 39-0 (+)
18 Sep vs Argentina at Brisbane 36-13
25 Sep vs South Africa at Townsville 19-17
2 Oct vs South Africa at Robina 29-31 (+)
30 Oct vs Wales at Cardiff 54-16
13 Nov vs Ireland at Dublin 20-29 (-)2023
5 Oct vs Uruguay at Lyon 73-0 (+)This is pretty damning.
Permanently injured player who doesn't appear to have the frame or game to play 6 just strolls back in - when he effectively hasn't played test rugby for 3 years (and wasn't even established 3 years ago).
Instead of making a call on Jacobson vs Blackadder they've effectively just picked the same player twice.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Ethan's games as AB
http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/Profile.asp?ABID=1195(+) = substitute; (-) = replaced
2021
3 Jul vs Tonga at Auckland 102-0 (+)
10 Jul vs Fiji at Dunedin 57-23
5 Sep vs Australia at Perth 38-21 (+)
12 Sep vs Argentina at Robina 39-0 (+)
18 Sep vs Argentina at Brisbane 36-13
25 Sep vs South Africa at Townsville 19-17
2 Oct vs South Africa at Robina 29-31 (+)
30 Oct vs Wales at Cardiff 54-16
13 Nov vs Ireland at Dublin 20-29 (-)2023
5 Oct vs Uruguay at Lyon 73-0 (+)This is pretty damning.
Permanently injured player who doesn't appear to have the frame or game to play 6 just strolls back in - when he effectively hasn't played test rugby for 3 years (and wasn't even established 3 years ago).
Instead of making a call on Jacobson vs Blackadder they've effectively just picked the same player twice.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Instead of making a call on Jacobson vs Blackadder they've effectively just picked the same player twice
this is really my only concern. And, to add to it, you could easily argue that with DP, they've picked the same player 3 times.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Ethan's games as AB
http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/Profile.asp?ABID=1195(+) = substitute; (-) = replaced
2021
3 Jul vs Tonga at Auckland 102-0 (+)
10 Jul vs Fiji at Dunedin 57-23
5 Sep vs Australia at Perth 38-21 (+)
12 Sep vs Argentina at Robina 39-0 (+)
18 Sep vs Argentina at Brisbane 36-13
25 Sep vs South Africa at Townsville 19-17
2 Oct vs South Africa at Robina 29-31 (+)
30 Oct vs Wales at Cardiff 54-16
13 Nov vs Ireland at Dublin 20-29 (-)2023
5 Oct vs Uruguay at Lyon 73-0 (+)This is pretty damning.
Permanently injured player who doesn't appear to have the frame or game to play 6 just strolls back in - when he effectively hasn't played test rugby for 3 years (and wasn't even established 3 years ago).
Instead of making a call on Jacobson vs Blackadder they've effectively just picked the same player twice.
@KiwiMurph everyone needs to be able to play multiple positions passably....rather than one position really well
@mariner4life i just read somewhere else, and i have found the quite myself so need to confirm, but they said they had read razor said they lied sititi as a ball runner....if they move savea to 7....so even he isn't focusing on one position
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@KiwiMurph everyone needs to be able to play multiple positions passably....rather than one position really well
@mariner4life i just read somewhere else, and i have found the quite myself so need to confirm, but they said they had read razor said they lied sititi as a ball runner....if they move savea to 7....so even he isn't focusing on one position
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@KiwiMurph everyone needs to be able to play multiple positions passably....rather than one position really well
That seems to have been the trend since 2015 and it's served us well!!
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@KiwiMurph everyone needs to be able to play multiple positions passably....rather than one position really well
@mariner4life i just read somewhere else, and i have found the quite myself so need to confirm, but they said they had read razor said they lied sititi as a ball runner....if they move savea to 7....so even he isn't focusing on one position
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@KiwiMurph everyone needs to be able to play multiple positions passably....rather than one position really well
Sure. But we've just come from a world cup squad where we picked 4 wingers and not enough sixes and ended up with Vaai starting at 6 in the first game of the tournament
Now we have 4 wingers and one six in Finau....
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Instead of making a call on Jacobson vs Blackadder they've effectively just picked the same player twice
this is really my only concern. And, to add to it, you could easily argue that with DP, they've picked the same player 3 times.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
Instead of making a call on Jacobson vs Blackadder they've effectively just picked the same player twice
this is really my only concern. And, to add to it, you could easily argue that with DP, they've picked the same player 3 times.
This!
I don’t get why we have three very similar players and the others don’t look like they have crossover skill sets.
So we’ve got Blackadder and Finau as 6s - very different players, Paps and Jacobson at 7 - ok, I can see what we are looking for, then Ardie and Sititi at 8 - very different players.
I cant see how if our 6 or 8 goes down we’ll still be able to have people plug in and go do a job.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:
@Chris-B all he has to do is stay fit then
All? I think somebody just jumped into a yawning sarchasm..
