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  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

    Perofeta played well against England.

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:

    Perofeta played well against England.

    Not in the second test. Just like Super Rugby he’s not consistent. Love was much better than him all year in Super until he suffered an injury late in the season which he tried to play through.

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    • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

      Lakai and Plummer should be there.

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      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:

      Lakai and Plummer should be there.

      Once Cane hangs up the boots I’d say Lakai will be the guy earmarked to take over. I can see an end of year tour spot for him. At least he’ll be a 7.5 player and not a 6.5 player which we have too many of atm.

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

        Well not many players invest their own $$ to go and do a training camp over in Aus while most other players are on holiday in their off-season. Love literally hasn’t stopped training since the end of Super rugby last year.

        A bunch of other players were playing Test rugby after Super season finished...

        After the NPC, the Christmas break, whatever you want to call it. When most players are boozing it up at the likes of RNV in Gizzy, Love was over in Aussie training the house down. That’s sometimes the difference between making it and not.

        He also deserves to be there over Perofeta who wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t for McDonald’s love affair with him. Just like Christie, he’ll get pushed out eventually.

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        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

        Well not many players invest their own $$ to go and do a training camp over in Aus while most other players are on holiday in their off-season. Love literally hasn’t stopped training since the end of Super rugby last year.

        A bunch of other players were playing Test rugby after Super season finished...

        After the NPC, the Christmas break, whatever you want to call it. When most players are boozing it up at the likes of RNV in Gizzy, Love was over in Aussie training the house down. That’s sometimes the difference between making it and not.

        He also deserves to be there over Perofeta who wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t for McDonald’s love affair with him. Just like Christie, he’ll get pushed out eventually.

        …..and also pissing round playing meaningless cricket games but don’t let that get in the way of your fluffing

        https://www.tiktok.com/@legendofmartybanks/video/7326323433741028616?lang=en

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        • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

          @Machpants Generally are US AB tickets very expensive.
          The prices in UK for AB games are very expensive now. 4 tickets viagogo £2500 AB v England category D tickets

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          @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:

          @Machpants Generally are US AB tickets very expensive.
          The prices in UK for AB games are very expensive now. 4 tickets viagogo £2500 AB v England category D tickets

          Explains why I no longer get freebie tickets from my broker then.

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          • MN5M MN5

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

            Well not many players invest their own $$ to go and do a training camp over in Aus while most other players are on holiday in their off-season. Love literally hasn’t stopped training since the end of Super rugby last year.

            A bunch of other players were playing Test rugby after Super season finished...

            After the NPC, the Christmas break, whatever you want to call it. When most players are boozing it up at the likes of RNV in Gizzy, Love was over in Aussie training the house down. That’s sometimes the difference between making it and not.

            He also deserves to be there over Perofeta who wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t for McDonald’s love affair with him. Just like Christie, he’ll get pushed out eventually.

            …..and also pissing round playing meaningless cricket games but don’t let that get in the way of your fluffing

            https://www.tiktok.com/@legendofmartybanks/video/7326323433741028616?lang=en

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            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

            Well not many players invest their own $$ to go and do a training camp over in Aus while most other players are on holiday in their off-season. Love literally hasn’t stopped training since the end of Super rugby last year.

            A bunch of other players were playing Test rugby after Super season finished...

            After the NPC, the Christmas break, whatever you want to call it. When most players are boozing it up at the likes of RNV in Gizzy, Love was over in Aussie training the house down. That’s sometimes the difference between making it and not.

            He also deserves to be there over Perofeta who wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t for McDonald’s love affair with him. Just like Christie, he’ll get pushed out eventually.

            …..and also pissing round playing meaningless cricket games but don’t let that get in the way of your fluffing

            https://www.tiktok.com/@legendofmartybanks/video/7326323433741028616?lang=en

            Mate I think you have the brains to know what I’m talking about. But yeah if you want to be a troll go ahead.

            Maybe do a bit more digging and you’ll figure it out so I don’t have to keep spelling it out for you.

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            • BonesB Bones

              It makes zero sense eh. Then we get people complaining about people complaining about DH and justifying it by saying he's the 5th midfielder and we're scraping the barrel there. Like fuck we are and that's exactly where you select a Poihipi/Lam/etc now that we have 4 proven midfielders.

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              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

              It makes zero sense eh. Then we get people complaining about people complaining about DH and justifying it by saying he's the 5th midfielder and we're scraping the barrel there. Like fuck we are and that's exactly where you select a Poihipi/Lam/etc now that we have 4 proven midfielders.

              100%, Poihipi’s form bettered Havili’s all year long. I was going to say he should be there but then I remembered he’s not a Crusader.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                Well not many players invest their own $$ to go and do a training camp over in Aus while most other players are on holiday in their off-season. Love literally hasn’t stopped training since the end of Super rugby last year.

                A bunch of other players were playing Test rugby after Super season finished...

                After the NPC, the Christmas break, whatever you want to call it. When most players are boozing it up at the likes of RNV in Gizzy, Love was over in Aussie training the house down. That’s sometimes the difference between making it and not.

                He also deserves to be there over Perofeta who wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t for McDonald’s love affair with him. Just like Christie, he’ll get pushed out eventually.

                …..and also pissing round playing meaningless cricket games but don’t let that get in the way of your fluffing

                https://www.tiktok.com/@legendofmartybanks/video/7326323433741028616?lang=en

                Mate I think you have the brains to know what I’m talking about. But yeah if you want to be a troll go ahead.

                Maybe do a bit more digging and you’ll figure it out so I don’t have to keep spelling it out for you.

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                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                Well not many players invest their own $$ to go and do a training camp over in Aus while most other players are on holiday in their off-season. Love literally hasn’t stopped training since the end of Super rugby last year.

                A bunch of other players were playing Test rugby after Super season finished...

                After the NPC, the Christmas break, whatever you want to call it. When most players are boozing it up at the likes of RNV in Gizzy, Love was over in Aussie training the house down. That’s sometimes the difference between making it and not.

                He also deserves to be there over Perofeta who wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t for McDonald’s love affair with him. Just like Christie, he’ll get pushed out eventually.

                …..and also pissing round playing meaningless cricket games but don’t let that get in the way of your fluffing

                https://www.tiktok.com/@legendofmartybanks/video/7326323433741028616?lang=en

                Mate I think you have the brains to know what I’m talking about. But yeah if you want to be a troll go ahead.

                Maybe do a bit more digging and you’ll figure it out so I don’t have to keep spelling it out for you.

                It was a terrific catch but his time would have been better spent doing extra training

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                  Well not many players invest their own $$ to go and do a training camp over in Aus while most other players are on holiday in their off-season. Love literally hasn’t stopped training since the end of Super rugby last year.

                  A bunch of other players were playing Test rugby after Super season finished...

                  After the NPC, the Christmas break, whatever you want to call it. When most players are boozing it up at the likes of RNV in Gizzy, Love was over in Aussie training the house down. That’s sometimes the difference between making it and not.

                  He also deserves to be there over Perofeta who wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t for McDonald’s love affair with him. Just like Christie, he’ll get pushed out eventually.

                  …..and also pissing round playing meaningless cricket games but don’t let that get in the way of your fluffing

                  https://www.tiktok.com/@legendofmartybanks/video/7326323433741028616?lang=en

                  Mate I think you have the brains to know what I’m talking about. But yeah if you want to be a troll go ahead.

                  Maybe do a bit more digging and you’ll figure it out so I don’t have to keep spelling it out for you.

                  It was a terrific catch but his time would have been better spent doing extra training

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                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                  Well not many players invest their own $$ to go and do a training camp over in Aus while most other players are on holiday in their off-season. Love literally hasn’t stopped training since the end of Super rugby last year.

                  A bunch of other players were playing Test rugby after Super season finished...

                  After the NPC, the Christmas break, whatever you want to call it. When most players are boozing it up at the likes of RNV in Gizzy, Love was over in Aussie training the house down. That’s sometimes the difference between making it and not.

                  He also deserves to be there over Perofeta who wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t for McDonald’s love affair with him. Just like Christie, he’ll get pushed out eventually.

                  …..and also pissing round playing meaningless cricket games but don’t let that get in the way of your fluffing

                  https://www.tiktok.com/@legendofmartybanks/video/7326323433741028616?lang=en

                  Mate I think you have the brains to know what I’m talking about. But yeah if you want to be a troll go ahead.

                  Maybe do a bit more digging and you’ll figure it out so I don’t have to keep spelling it out for you.

                  It was a terrific catch but his time would have been better spent doing extra training

                  Forget about his Super form, did you not hear Razor say earlier they based his selection purely on that catch? I’d say Love made the right choice to participate that day.

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                  • pukunuiP pukunui

                    @Winger said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Winger said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Winger the idiot brigade out again. Give it a rest. It’s getting boring.

                    Where did the Crusaders finish up this year?

                    There's obvious bias. Even most (but obviosuly not all) Crusaders should be able to see this

                    That could be asking the impossible

                    Robertsons a fool really. All he had to do is not make any dubious Crusaders selections and everyone would have been on his side as the man.

                    So Ardie over Scott as captain
                    RR in preference to Bell
                    Plummer in preference to Havili
                    And not Blackadder

                    Thats it. He could have then brought them all in if and only if they proved themsleves in SRP 2025

                    Some of the tantrums and throwing toys out of the cot on here over the last month or so has been pretty impressive but it is getting a bit unhinged now.

                    I for one am glad Robertson isn’t selecting the fringe squad players with the purpose of keeping some internet forum fans happy.

                    Scott Barrett over Ardie was always going to be the safe bet. IMO their individual performances in the first couple of games and Ardie signing for MP and planning to the another sabbatical proves this decision was probably a good one.

                    RR is a journeyman who is only just Super rugby standard. If Sami T didn’t hurt himself, Bell would have been nowhere near the team.

                    People getting their knickers in a twist over Havili being the 5th choice midfielder is also hilarious. We are scraping the barrel there so going back to Havili is understandable. Lam having only played a handful of games at 12 was never going to be a serious option. Hopefully next year he is.
                    I probably would have selected Plummer in the place of Perofeta (who has done fuck all even at super or test level) and had Love in the original squad to cover 15 in place of Narawa. Like they have now.

                    Blackadder has been covered. Multiple previous coaching groups have rated him (and Frizzel) over Akira and Sotutu. Neither of then really offered what we are missing in their test appearances anyway. If they had, they would be there. That’s just the way it is. Get over it. Like midfield there isn’t much proven talent left behind. Unless you want to give Grace another shot, but the meltdown and screams of bias would be deafening.

                    Now on the squad selection overall.
                    Really happy to see Christie given the boot. Don’t really have a view on Hotham. The Blues dropping Funaki for Christie when he came back probably killed his chances. Fakatava has dropped right away from where he was.
                    They are just keeping Roigard’s spot warm anyway.

                    Still concerned about our lock selections. Especially with Barrett out of the first games.
                    Really don’t understand why they aren’t bringing an extra guy in full time. Whoever it is.

                    Also don’t really get the Cane selection. He doesn’t add anything that we don’t already have multiple layers of in the other 6.5s.
                    Going to be very interesting to see how the selection of the loosies evolves over to RC.
                    Really hoping Finau can gain some confidence.

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                    @pukunui said in All Blacks 2024:

                    People getting their knickers in a twist over Havili being the 5th choice midfielder is also hilarious. We are scraping the barrel there so going back to Havili is understandable.

                    Could see the logic in Havili when we were cursed by injuries, but that's not the case now. Robertson's picked an inexperienced Hotham and Darry so is clearly looking to build, and could have done the same in midfield.

                    Maybe Robertson, like Foster, sees something in Havili we ain't.

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2024:

                      Don’t understand Cane’s selection

                      New Zealand's cultural obsession, especially the Canterbury region's, utter obsession with the worthy backrow battler. It's the Achilles heal.

                      Also, the NZ Rugby media is different from everywhere else. No single member of the press will be asking Razor "Why are picking a guy who hasn't played for six months?" All Blacks coaches don't get asked the tough questions ever.

                      Not that Sam Cane wasn't an excellent player at peak, but hard to see what he's done at all in the last six months to justify Back row selection ahead of Hoskins Sotutu, Akira Ioane, Brayden Iose, Peter Lakai or Billy Harmon.

                      Certain people get agitated when I voice my opinions (they are just words) on these matters, so I should stop there.

                      Don't stop mate. That's what this place is for, to scratch the itch that won't stop itching. All of us have been broken records at one time or another

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                      @canefan

                      Can’t think what you have been a broken record about!! 😉

                      I was one of the original broken records shouting ‘suitcase out’ on this forum !

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                        @canefan

                        Can’t think what you have been a broken record about!! 😉

                        I was one of the original broken records shouting ‘suitcase out’ on this forum !

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                        @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024:

                        @canefan

                        Can’t think what you have been a broken record about!! 😉

                        I was one of the original broken records shouting ‘suitcase out’ on this forum !

                        I was just trying to make the boy feel comfortable..... 😉

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2024:

                          Don’t understand Cane’s selection

                          Yeah. So they'd rather give an outgoing player a swansong RC instead of bringing Hoskins in to see if they can work with him to get him up to speed for the future

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                          @canefan

                          Honestly, I think a deal has been done to get him off the books.

                          “My client can to Japan, saving the NZR a lot of money for early release.

                          All we ask is that you get him to 100 test caps”

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                            @pukunui said in All Blacks 2024:

                            People getting their knickers in a twist over Havili being the 5th choice midfielder is also hilarious. We are scraping the barrel there so going back to Havili is understandable.

                            Could see the logic in Havili when we were cursed by injuries, but that's not the case now. Robertson's picked an inexperienced Hotham and Darry so is clearly looking to build, and could have done the same in midfield.

                            Maybe Robertson, like Foster, sees something in Havili we ain't.

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                            @Victor-Meldrew

                            I see a lot of intercepts and missed tackles 🤦‍♂️

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                              @canefan

                              Honestly, I think a deal has been done to get him off the books.

                              “My client can to Japan, saving the NZR a lot of money for early release.

                              All we ask is that you get him to 100 test caps”

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                              @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @canefan

                              Honestly, I think a deal has been done to get him off the books.

                              “My client can to Japan, saving the NZR a lot of money for early release.

                              All we ask is that you get him to 100 test caps”

                              Sorry Sam... 🟥

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                                People on here forget SR finals Havilli and some classic performances esp. that victory in SA that saved Foster's ass. For some reason, the headless chook games of the previous group seem to have stuck on Havilli more so than anyone else. The same people crying for Sotutu and Akira lambast Havilli yet they also were part of those performances.
                                Wouldn't have Cane or Havilli myself but take the blinders off.

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                                  People on here forget SR finals Havilli and some classic performances esp. that victory in SA that saved Foster's ass. For some reason, the headless chook games of the previous group seem to have stuck on Havilli more so than anyone else. The same people crying for Sotutu and Akira lambast Havilli yet they also were part of those performances.
                                  Wouldn't have Cane or Havilli myself but take the blinders off.

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                                  @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  People on here forget SR finals Havilli and some classic performances esp. that victory in SA that saved Foster's ass. For some reason, the headless chook games of the previous group seem to have stuck on Havilli more so than anyone else. The same people crying for Sotutu and Akira lambast Havilli yet they also were part of those performances.
                                  Wouldn't have Cane or Havilli myself but take the blinders off.

                                  I'm happy to be corrected by DH. But my overriding memory of the AB midfield with DH in it was a lack of physicality

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                                    Pretty funny to talk about blinders.

                                    All Blacks should be picked on form, not as development squad for the Crusaders.

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      Well not many players invest their own $$ to go and do a training camp over in Aus while most other players are on holiday in their off-season. Love literally hasn’t stopped training since the end of Super rugby last year.

                                      A bunch of other players were playing Test rugby after Super season finished...

                                      After the NPC, the Christmas break, whatever you want to call it. When most players are boozing it up at the likes of RNV in Gizzy, Love was over in Aussie training the house down. That’s sometimes the difference between making it and not.

                                      He also deserves to be there over Perofeta who wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t for McDonald’s love affair with him. Just like Christie, he’ll get pushed out eventually.

                                      …..and also pissing round playing meaningless cricket games but don’t let that get in the way of your fluffing

                                      https://www.tiktok.com/@legendofmartybanks/video/7326323433741028616?lang=en

                                      Mate I think you have the brains to know what I’m talking about. But yeah if you want to be a troll go ahead.

                                      Maybe do a bit more digging and you’ll figure it out so I don’t have to keep spelling it out for you.

                                      It was a terrific catch but his time would have been better spent doing extra training

                                      Forget about his Super form, did you not hear Razor say earlier they based his selection purely on that catch? I’d say Love made the right choice to participate that day.

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                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      Well not many players invest their own $$ to go and do a training camp over in Aus while most other players are on holiday in their off-season. Love literally hasn’t stopped training since the end of Super rugby last year.

                                      A bunch of other players were playing Test rugby after Super season finished...

                                      After the NPC, the Christmas break, whatever you want to call it. When most players are boozing it up at the likes of RNV in Gizzy, Love was over in Aussie training the house down. That’s sometimes the difference between making it and not.

                                      He also deserves to be there over Perofeta who wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t for McDonald’s love affair with him. Just like Christie, he’ll get pushed out eventually.

                                      …..and also pissing round playing meaningless cricket games but don’t let that get in the way of your fluffing

                                      https://www.tiktok.com/@legendofmartybanks/video/7326323433741028616?lang=en

                                      Mate I think you have the brains to know what I’m talking about. But yeah if you want to be a troll go ahead.

                                      Maybe do a bit more digging and you’ll figure it out so I don’t have to keep spelling it out for you.

                                      It was a terrific catch but his time would have been better spent doing extra training

                                      Forget about his Super form, did you not hear Razor say earlier they based his selection purely on that catch? I’d say Love made the right choice to participate that day.

                                      Perofeta wouldn’t have taken that catch that’s for sure

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        People on here forget SR finals Havilli and some classic performances esp. that victory in SA that saved Foster's ass. For some reason, the headless chook games of the previous group seem to have stuck on Havilli more so than anyone else. The same people crying for Sotutu and Akira lambast Havilli yet they also were part of those performances.
                                        Wouldn't have Cane or Havilli myself but take the blinders off.

                                        I'm happy to be corrected by DH. But my overriding memory of the AB midfield with DH in it was a lack of physicality

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                                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        People on here forget SR finals Havilli and some classic performances esp. that victory in SA that saved Foster's ass. For some reason, the headless chook games of the previous group seem to have stuck on Havilli more so than anyone else. The same people crying for Sotutu and Akira lambast Havilli yet they also were part of those performances.
                                        Wouldn't have Cane or Havilli myself but take the blinders off.

                                        I'm happy to be corrected by DH. But my overriding memory of the AB midfield with DH in it was a lack of physicality

                                        Mine too. Wrong gameplan, wrong player.

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                                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                                          Pretty funny to talk about blinders.

                                          All Blacks should be picked on form, not as development squad for the Crusaders.

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                                          @Kirwan are you actually John Kirwan. Cause he’s a whinging Auckland prick too. Get over it mate.

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