All Blacks 2024
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Looks like I chose the right weekend to skip the game and spend an afternoon drinking Coronas at the beach.
Have the NZ rugby journalists got Razor’s cock out of their mouth long enough to ask what the fuck is going on? It’s time for some serious questions - and hopefully the coaches can respond with a better performance.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
Looks like I chose the right weekend to skip the game and spend an afternoon drinking Coronas at the beach.
Have the NZ rugby journalists got Razor’s cock out of their mouth long enough to ask what the fuck is going on? It’s time for some serious questions - and hopefully the coaches can respond with a better performance.
We know that won't happen.
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As a fan on the couch I’ve got little idea who can coach and who can’t but all I have is what I see as a result ,
But I do suspect in modern coaching it’s more of a team thing than the one man in charge , we saw the results when fosters assistants were improved, and I see it regularly in afl , a new assistant comes into the mix and quite often brings something completely different to the table.
Out of interest, if Jamie Joseph had got the job , was it public knowledge who his assistants were going to be ?
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
By the way.
The jersey is horrible. And I hate that Altrad sponsor logo.
An abomination.
You have missed the analysis on the jersey. I hate the collar (too big) and the stripes on the shoulders. The worst thing of all is the way we are playing in it.
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
By the way.
The jersey is horrible. And I hate that Altrad sponsor logo.
An abomination.
You have missed the analysis on the jersey. I hate the collar (too big) and the stripes on the shoulders. The worst thing of all is the way we are playing in it.
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
By the way.
The jersey is horrible. And I hate that Altrad sponsor logo.
An abomination.
You have missed the analysis on the jersey. I hate the collar (too big) and the stripes on the shoulders. The worst thing of all is the way we are playing in it.
And the Cake Tin. Used to be a really good ground, but we've shat the bed there for the last 8 years.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@Landers92 I can completely understand not wanting to go introduce yourself or talk to semi strangers. I'm quite capable of doing my job, but often I just can't be fucked talking to even the closest people to me, especially if I'm not expecting it.
I can understand you picking it up that way and get exactly what you mean, I was unsure how to word it better. But, the player wasn’t even acknowledged… pretty rough imo but hey, I’m just putting it out there.
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@Landers92 I can completely understand not wanting to go introduce yourself or talk to semi strangers. I'm quite capable of doing my job, but often I just can't be fucked talking to even the closest people to me, especially if I'm not expecting it.
I can understand you picking it up that way and get exactly what you mean, I was unsure how to word it better. But, the player wasn’t even acknowledged… pretty rough imo but hey, I’m just putting it out there.
The fact he didn't even say hello to Ruben and his family in a public setting once he was selected is pretty poor in my view. I'd say he's probably been overruled by Razor and co and is a little salty about the fact Love is in the squad. Even just a quick hello wouldn't have been a hard ask, sounds like a bit of a dick, and he seems to coach like one to. Our backs haven't exactly set the house on fire but I'm not surprised with Holland and McDonald coaching and selecting them.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
By the way.
The jersey is horrible. And I hate that Altrad sponsor logo.
An abomination.
You have missed the analysis on the jersey. I hate the collar (too big) and the stripes on the shoulders. The worst thing of all is the way we are playing in it.
And the Cake Tin. Used to be a really good ground, but we've shat the bed there for the last 8 years.
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
By the way.
The jersey is horrible. And I hate that Altrad sponsor logo.
An abomination.
You have missed the analysis on the jersey. I hate the collar (too big) and the stripes on the shoulders. The worst thing of all is the way we are playing in it.
And the Cake Tin. Used to be a really good ground, but we've shat the bed there for the last 8 years.
Some of my mates won't go there now coz we never win!
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To add on to my other message. Being an All Black coach isn’t exactly a regular job either. I can understand ignoring colleagues and the likes but not when you’re in a position he is in. This day and age you’re looking to build a culture, a good team dynamic… If ignoring his player in public is how we wants to roll then I think it says quite a lot about the guy. Theres also other things too that I won’t put out there. Would hate to know what he acts like within the environment.
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MacDonald was a bog average player who cost us two World Cups
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MacDonald was a bog average player who cost us two World Cups
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
MacDonald was a bog average player who cost us two World Cups
Amazingly how many caps he got considering he was competing with Cullen and Mils for a spot.
I suppose he “covered” centre and first five which helped.
Pretty gutsy and aggressive but defintely well short of their class
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
MacDonald was a bog average player who cost us two World Cups
Amazingly how many caps he got considering he was competing with Cullen and Mils for a spot.
I suppose he “covered” centre and first five which helped.
Pretty gutsy and aggressive but defintely well short of their class
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
MacDonald was a bog average player who cost us two World Cups
Amazingly how many caps he got considering he was competing with Cullen and Mils for a spot.
I suppose he “covered” centre and first five which helped.
Pretty gutsy and aggressive but defintely well short of their class
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Leon was fine as a AB squad member - a solid test backup fullback
He did not have the utility value that people thought he did though - he was a poor centre and 10.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Leon was fine as a AB squad member - a solid test backup fullback
He did not have the utility value that people thought he did though - he was a poor centre and 10.
Kind of like a better version of David Havili if you will
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Leon was fine as a AB squad member - a solid test backup fullback
He did not have the utility value that people thought he did though - he was a poor centre and 10.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Leon was fine as a AB squad member - a solid test backup fullback
He did not have the utility value that people thought he did though - he was a poor centre and 10.
The David Havili of his era?
Stirling Mortlock thought Leon was great
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Leon was fine as a AB squad member - a solid test backup fullback
He did not have the utility value that people thought he did though - he was a poor centre and 10.
The David Havili of his era?
Stirling Mortlock thought Leon was great
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Leon was fine as a AB squad member - a solid test backup fullback
He did not have the utility value that people thought he did though - he was a poor centre and 10.
The David Havili of his era?
Stop copying my homework
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Leon was fine as a AB squad member - a solid test backup fullback
He did not have the utility value that people thought he did though - he was a poor centre and 10.
The David Havili of his era?
Stop copying my homework
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Leon was fine as a AB squad member - a solid test backup fullback
He did not have the utility value that people thought he did though - he was a poor centre and 10.
The David Havili of his era?
Stop copying my homework
Photo finish
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As a fan on the couch I’ve got little idea who can coach and who can’t but all I have is what I see as a result ,
But I do suspect in modern coaching it’s more of a team thing than the one man in charge , we saw the results when fosters assistants were improved, and I see it regularly in afl , a new assistant comes into the mix and quite often brings something completely different to the table.
Out of interest, if Jamie Joseph had got the job , was it public knowledge who his assistants were going to be ?
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2024:
Out of interest, if Jamie Joseph had got the job , was it public knowledge who his assistants were going to be
One was Tony Brown. I think he ahd a few more but cna't remember who
Re MacDonald. I always thought his reactions when they gave a shot of the coaches during a game was strange. Whereas Jamie and Tony was the exact opposite. One was like a boy the other like men
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I liked Rangi as a player. Anyway, I think the pile on should be on Ryan, his and Frizell's publicist @Chris-B said that Ryan was disappointed to see Frizell slip away. This was after the RWC final where he was a no show. I don't trust Tubby at all after that comment.
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To add on to my other message. Being an All Black coach isn’t exactly a regular job either. I can understand ignoring colleagues and the likes but not when you’re in a position he is in. This day and age you’re looking to build a culture, a good team dynamic… If ignoring his player in public is how we wants to roll then I think it says quite a lot about the guy. Theres also other things too that I won’t put out there. Would hate to know what he acts like within the environment.
@Landers92 Just chuck it on mate, it's just a bunch of losers like me on a random rugby forum.
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As a fan on the couch I’ve got little idea who can coach and who can’t but all I have is what I see as a result ,
But I do suspect in modern coaching it’s more of a team thing than the one man in charge , we saw the results when fosters assistants were improved, and I see it regularly in afl , a new assistant comes into the mix and quite often brings something completely different to the table.
Out of interest, if Jamie Joseph had got the job , was it public knowledge who his assistants were going to be ?
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2024:
As a fan on the couch I’ve got little idea who can coach and who can’t but all I have is what I see as a result ,
But I do suspect in modern coaching it’s more of a team thing than the one man in charge , we saw the results when fosters assistants were improved, and I see it regularly in afl , a new assistant comes into the mix and quite often brings something completely different to the table.
Out of interest, if Jamie Joseph had got the job , was it public knowledge who his assistants were going to be ?
so according to the NZ Herald, 4 assistant coaches, Jason Ryan was continuing regardless, Tony Brown attack, Leon McDonald backs, Scott McLeod defense.
I think it's as good as Razor's team, not better because Scott Hansen is by all accounts a really good coach and had aligned with Razor wherever he was heading (assume another international side). No Jason Holland probably balances it out though.
