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  • sparkyS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by sparky
    #5708

    But there are a number of big names that haven't delivered in 2024:

    Ardie Savea
    TJ Perenera
    Jordie Barrett
    Reiko Ioane (at centre, looks better on the wing)
    Mark Telea
    Beauden Barrett (apart from Eden Park against England)

    I think some of those guys won't be in the squad for the Bledisloe.

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    • sparkyS sparky

      But there are a number of big names that haven't delivered in 2024:

      Ardie Savea
      TJ Perenera
      Jordie Barrett
      Reiko Ioane (at centre, looks better on the wing)
      Mark Telea
      Beauden Barrett (apart from Eden Park against England)

      I think some of those guys won't be in the squad for the Bledisloe.

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      #5709

      @sparky Savea will. BB will be on then bench. As will TJP (even if I think he is the antithesis to cool calm finisher). I can see RI being the bench cover for wing and centre. ALB to start - possibly at 12, with Proctor at 13. JB if kicking for goal is a shoe in - when he isn’t kicking, his form needs to be much better. He’s under threat.

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      • sparkyS sparky

        But there are a number of big names that haven't delivered in 2024:

        Ardie Savea
        TJ Perenera
        Jordie Barrett
        Reiko Ioane (at centre, looks better on the wing)
        Mark Telea
        Beauden Barrett (apart from Eden Park against England)

        I think some of those guys won't be in the squad for the Bledisloe.

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        Jet
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        #5710

        @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

        But there are a number of big names that haven't delivered in 2024:

        Ardie Savea
        TJ Perenera
        Jordie Barrett
        Reiko Ioane (at centre, looks better on the wing)
        Mark Telea
        Beauden Barrett (apart from Eden Park against England)

        I think some of those guys won't be in the squad for the Bledisloe.

        A lot of these were known knowns for quite some time though if we are honest with ourselves.

        Barrett and TJP are ready for the knackers yard, and Ioane should have been left on the wing all along.

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          #5711

          Proctor and Love need to be tried out otherwise it's getting ludicrous

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          • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

            Proctor and Love need to be tried out otherwise it's getting ludicrous

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            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:

            Proctor and Love need to be tried out otherwise it's getting ludicrous

            There is no need now to bring all of Cane, Papalii, Jacobsen and Blackadder on the EOYT.

            There should be spots for the likes of Lakai, Akira, Sotutu.

            Cane should get a fond send off against Australia and then good luck and thanks for the memories.

            Id rather have Hotham and Ratima than TJP too.

            Rieko to the wing.

            Id be giving Narawa a proper audition too.....not sure what happened there with him??????

            Fabian Holland should travel in whatever capacity he is allowed, to train with the team and get up to speed.

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            • JetJ Jet

              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:

              Proctor and Love need to be tried out otherwise it's getting ludicrous

              There is no need now to bring all of Cane, Papalii, Jacobsen and Blackadder on the EOYT.

              There should be spots for the likes of Lakai, Akira, Sotutu.

              Cane should get a fond send off against Australia and then good luck and thanks for the memories.

              Id rather have Hotham and Ratima than TJP too.

              Rieko to the wing.

              Id be giving Narawa a proper audition too.....not sure what happened there with him??????

              Fabian Holland should travel in whatever capacity he is allowed, to train with the team and get up to speed.

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              #5713

              @Jet In the majority of the tests this year the management have placed a large amount of importance on experience.
              The fact is many of the younger guys are now better.
              Williams, Vaai, Sititi, Ratima, Proctor, Love ...

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              • JetJ Offline
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                #5714

                The Allblacks used to be too afraid to lose.

                They would play stink but will themselves over the line.

                With 20 minutes to go these lads are looking at each other thinking "its happening again".

                The media, players and fan base are getting accustomed to dropping 4 games a year now.

                Apathy and ambivalence is enveloping the Allblacks entity.

                Even on forums such as this......nobody seems angry any more.

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                  #5715

                  Shortly we are going to have two running units in Roigard and Sititi. Things are alright.

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                    What do you do if you are Razor here?

                    Ireland England and France away from home in 8 weeks time.

                    He needs wins on the board soon to keep the wolves from the door so he doesnt look like a busted flush himself.

                    But the experienced heads are letting him down. Barrett kicking the ball away week in week out, McKenzie missing kicks. The captain dropping a pass cold today while hot on attack. Two completely avoidable yellow cards today.

                    I hope he knows in his heart that some of these players are finished but by the same token , Lansdowne , Twickenham and Paris are tough places to give a couple of new guys game time concurrently.

                    Maybe he needs to blood some newbies against Australia. Proctor and Love come to mind.

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                      • JetJ Jet

                        The Allblacks used to be too afraid to lose.

                        They would play stink but will themselves over the line.

                        With 20 minutes to go these lads are looking at each other thinking "its happening again".

                        The media, players and fan base are getting accustomed to dropping 4 games a year now.

                        Apathy and ambivalence is enveloping the Allblacks entity.

                        Even on forums such as this......nobody seems angry any more.

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                        #5718

                        @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

                        The Allblacks used to be too afraid to lose.

                        They would play stink but will themselves over the line.

                        With 20 minutes to go these lads are looking at each other thinking "its happening again".

                        The media, players and fan base are getting accustomed to dropping 4 games a year now.

                        Apathy and ambivalence is enveloping the Allblacks entity.

                        Even on forums such as this......nobody seems angry any more.

                        I think for their next edition NZ Rugby news needs to have a photo of Scott Robertson with the word ‘Guilty’ written underneath.

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

                          The Allblacks used to be too afraid to lose.

                          They would play stink but will themselves over the line.

                          With 20 minutes to go these lads are looking at each other thinking "its happening again".

                          The media, players and fan base are getting accustomed to dropping 4 games a year now.

                          Apathy and ambivalence is enveloping the Allblacks entity.

                          Even on forums such as this......nobody seems angry any more.

                          I think for their next edition NZ Rugby news needs to have a photo of Scott Robertson with the word ‘Guilty’ written underneath.

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                          #5719

                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

                          The Allblacks used to be too afraid to lose.

                          They would play stink but will themselves over the line.

                          With 20 minutes to go these lads are looking at each other thinking "its happening again".

                          The media, players and fan base are getting accustomed to dropping 4 games a year now.

                          Apathy and ambivalence is enveloping the Allblacks entity.

                          Even on forums such as this......nobody seems angry any more.

                          I think for their next edition NZ Rugby news needs to have a photo of Scott Robertson with the word ‘Guilty’ written underneath.

                          Razor got a horse we can spit at?

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #5720

                            If Ireland, England and France beat us, which is likely on current form, and or god forbid Australia, would you want/do you think Razor would be sacked?

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                            • JetJ Jet

                              Id tell the canes to start playing Love at 10 next season.

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                              @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

                              Id tell the canes to start playing Love at 10 next season.

                              No. Beauden is nearly finished and Jordan's best long term position could be wing.
                              He deserves his chance at 15.

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                              • JetJ Jet

                                If Ireland, England and France beat us, which is likely on current form, and or god forbid Australia, would you want/do you think Razor would be sacked?

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                                stodders
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #5722

                                @Jet things weren’t brilliant in 2004 when Henry took over. 2004 EOYT saw a changing of the guard and the emergence of the playing style that defined NZ during the purple patch of 2005-2017.

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                                  @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  Id tell the canes to start playing Love at 10 next season.

                                  No. Beauden is nearly finished and Jordan's best long term position could be wing.
                                  He deserves his chance at 15.

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                                  BerniesCorner
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #5723

                                  @Frank said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  Id tell the canes to start playing Love at 10 next season.

                                  No. Beauden is nearly finished and Jordan's best long term position could be wing.
                                  He deserves his chance at 15.

                                  BBs contracted to 2027 isn't he

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                                    LatsToTheMax
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                                    We had a gem in Nonu. Not tall but solid AF and had wheels. CC is built similar. I know he's our 11 right now but could he be an option with JB and AJLam in the future?

                                    I still think Tele'a is a right wing.

                                    We are so damn close. We bossed them again on attack for 50 mins.

                                    WJ is not going to have a blinder every test but he had zero impact at all. WT looked good.

                                    Again just some baffling calls by the refs but AGAIN, we have to acknowledge that the pictures we are painting aren't in the refs favour and we need to take them out of the game.

                                    I refuse to believe we are worse than the Wallabies and Argies right now.

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                                    • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      Id tell the canes to start playing Love at 10 next season.

                                      No. Beauden is nearly finished and Jordan's best long term position could be wing.
                                      He deserves his chance at 15.

                                      BBs contracted to 2027 isn't he

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                                      Frank
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #5725

                                      @BerniesCorner
                                      I mean in terms of playing ability.

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                                        Yeahtheboys
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                                        #5726

                                        What head coaches are available? We’ve still got 3 years to salvage a chance at getting out of our group….

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                                        • Y Yeahtheboys

                                          What head coaches are available? We’ve still got 3 years to salvage a chance at getting out of our group….

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                                          @Yeahtheboys said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                          What head coaches are available? We’ve still got 3 years to salvage a chance at getting out of our group….

                                          Let's not panic yet. We lost a whole lot of leadership after RWC23 and it will take some time to rebuild. The coaching group haven't been perfect, hopefully they will learn from missteps quickly, especially in terms of selection

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