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All Blacks 2024

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    Jet
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    What do you do if you are Razor here?

    Ireland England and France away from home in 8 weeks time.

    He needs wins on the board soon to keep the wolves from the door so he doesnt look like a busted flush himself.

    But the experienced heads are letting him down. Barrett kicking the ball away week in week out, McKenzie missing kicks. The captain dropping a pass cold today while hot on attack. Two completely avoidable yellow cards today.

    I hope he knows in his heart that some of these players are finished but by the same token , Lansdowne , Twickenham and Paris are tough places to give a couple of new guys game time concurrently.

    Maybe he needs to blood some newbies against Australia. Proctor and Love come to mind.

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      Mattasaurus
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      • JetJ Jet

        The Allblacks used to be too afraid to lose.

        They would play stink but will themselves over the line.

        With 20 minutes to go these lads are looking at each other thinking "its happening again".

        The media, players and fan base are getting accustomed to dropping 4 games a year now.

        Apathy and ambivalence is enveloping the Allblacks entity.

        Even on forums such as this......nobody seems angry any more.

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        MN5
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        #5718

        @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

        The Allblacks used to be too afraid to lose.

        They would play stink but will themselves over the line.

        With 20 minutes to go these lads are looking at each other thinking "its happening again".

        The media, players and fan base are getting accustomed to dropping 4 games a year now.

        Apathy and ambivalence is enveloping the Allblacks entity.

        Even on forums such as this......nobody seems angry any more.

        I think for their next edition NZ Rugby news needs to have a photo of Scott Robertson with the word ‘Guilty’ written underneath.

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        • MN5M MN5

          @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

          The Allblacks used to be too afraid to lose.

          They would play stink but will themselves over the line.

          With 20 minutes to go these lads are looking at each other thinking "its happening again".

          The media, players and fan base are getting accustomed to dropping 4 games a year now.

          Apathy and ambivalence is enveloping the Allblacks entity.

          Even on forums such as this......nobody seems angry any more.

          I think for their next edition NZ Rugby news needs to have a photo of Scott Robertson with the word ‘Guilty’ written underneath.

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          booboo
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          #5719

          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

          @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

          The Allblacks used to be too afraid to lose.

          They would play stink but will themselves over the line.

          With 20 minutes to go these lads are looking at each other thinking "its happening again".

          The media, players and fan base are getting accustomed to dropping 4 games a year now.

          Apathy and ambivalence is enveloping the Allblacks entity.

          Even on forums such as this......nobody seems angry any more.

          I think for their next edition NZ Rugby news needs to have a photo of Scott Robertson with the word ‘Guilty’ written underneath.

          Razor got a horse we can spit at?

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          • JetJ Offline
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            Jet
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            If Ireland, England and France beat us, which is likely on current form, and or god forbid Australia, would you want/do you think Razor would be sacked?

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            • JetJ Jet

              Id tell the canes to start playing Love at 10 next season.

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              @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

              Id tell the canes to start playing Love at 10 next season.

              No. Beauden is nearly finished and Jordan's best long term position could be wing.
              He deserves his chance at 15.

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              • JetJ Jet

                If Ireland, England and France beat us, which is likely on current form, and or god forbid Australia, would you want/do you think Razor would be sacked?

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                stodders
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                @Jet things weren’t brilliant in 2004 when Henry took over. 2004 EOYT saw a changing of the guard and the emergence of the playing style that defined NZ during the purple patch of 2005-2017.

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                • FrankF Frank

                  @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

                  Id tell the canes to start playing Love at 10 next season.

                  No. Beauden is nearly finished and Jordan's best long term position could be wing.
                  He deserves his chance at 15.

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                  BerniesCorner
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                  @Frank said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

                  Id tell the canes to start playing Love at 10 next season.

                  No. Beauden is nearly finished and Jordan's best long term position could be wing.
                  He deserves his chance at 15.

                  BBs contracted to 2027 isn't he

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                    LatsToTheMax
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                    We had a gem in Nonu. Not tall but solid AF and had wheels. CC is built similar. I know he's our 11 right now but could he be an option with JB and AJLam in the future?

                    I still think Tele'a is a right wing.

                    We are so damn close. We bossed them again on attack for 50 mins.

                    WJ is not going to have a blinder every test but he had zero impact at all. WT looked good.

                    Again just some baffling calls by the refs but AGAIN, we have to acknowledge that the pictures we are painting aren't in the refs favour and we need to take them out of the game.

                    I refuse to believe we are worse than the Wallabies and Argies right now.

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                    • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

                      Id tell the canes to start playing Love at 10 next season.

                      No. Beauden is nearly finished and Jordan's best long term position could be wing.
                      He deserves his chance at 15.

                      BBs contracted to 2027 isn't he

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                      Frank
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                      #5725

                      @BerniesCorner
                      I mean in terms of playing ability.

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                        Yeahtheboys
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                        #5726

                        What head coaches are available? We’ve still got 3 years to salvage a chance at getting out of our group….

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                        • Y Yeahtheboys

                          What head coaches are available? We’ve still got 3 years to salvage a chance at getting out of our group….

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                          canefan
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                          @Yeahtheboys said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                          What head coaches are available? We’ve still got 3 years to salvage a chance at getting out of our group….

                          Let's not panic yet. We lost a whole lot of leadership after RWC23 and it will take some time to rebuild. The coaching group haven't been perfect, hopefully they will learn from missteps quickly, especially in terms of selection

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                            Chris
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                            #5728

                            Yeah we are not going to lose the Bledisloe ,short memories the Aussies got pumped by SA at home 33-7 and 30-12 with 2 different teams the Saffers fielded then Aussies had 60 points put on them by the Argies.
                            We lost 2 close games v SA in SA and could have won both ,a few panic merchants on here .
                            we have blooded a lot of players and are nearly 4 years away from a WC and some people are saying we won't get out of our pool at the WC.
                            Calm done take a pill and sort your shit out.

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              Yeah we are not going to lose the Bledisloe ,short memories the Aussies got pumped by SA at home 33-7 and 30-12 with 2 different teams the Saffers fielded then Aussies had 60 points put on them by the Argies.
                              We lost 2 close games v SA in SA and could have won both ,a few panic merchants on here .
                              we have blooded a lot of players and are nearly 4 years away from a WC and some people are saying we won't get out of our pool at the WC.
                              Calm done take a pill and sort your shit out.

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                              Duluth
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                              #5729

                              @Chris

                              Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                @Chris

                                Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations

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                                Chris
                                wrote on last edited by Chris
                                #5730

                                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Chris

                                Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations

                                I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.
                                SA are the best side in the World ATM.
                                We have to admit that and build a new team for the WC .
                                The loss to Argentina was more shit than the 2 loses to SA in SA.

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                                • ChrisC Chris

                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @Chris

                                  Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations

                                  I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.
                                  SA are the best side in the World ATM.
                                  We have to admit that and build a new team for the WC .
                                  The loss to Argentina was more shit than the 2 loses to SA in SA.

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                                  Duluth
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #5731

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.

                                  How does it compare to what you wrote in the previous 2-3 seasons? I think the criticism has been mild

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.

                                    How does it compare to what you wrote in the previous 2-3 seasons? I think the criticism has been mild

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                                    Chris
                                    wrote on last edited by Chris
                                    #5732

                                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.

                                    How does it compare to what you wrote in the previous 2-3 seasons? I think the criticism has been mild

                                    To be Fair I probably did blast Foster but this is one hell of a year for your first year as coach EOYT that is daunting 2 tests v SA in SA.
                                    But I am not happy by the results either or totally convinced on the coaching group atm.
                                    Maybe I am just sick of the negative shit now.Mine included.things happen out here in the real world like terminal illness we all have to deal with maybe I just want to be positive from now on.

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                                    • LatsToTheMaxL LatsToTheMax

                                      We had a gem in Nonu. Not tall but solid AF and had wheels. CC is built similar. I know he's our 11 right now but could he be an option with JB and AJLam in the future?

                                      I still think Tele'a is a right wing.

                                      We are so damn close. We bossed them again on attack for 50 mins.

                                      WJ is not going to have a blinder every test but he had zero impact at all. WT looked good.

                                      Again just some baffling calls by the refs but AGAIN, we have to acknowledge that the pictures we are painting aren't in the refs favour and we need to take them out of the game.

                                      I refuse to believe we are worse than the Wallabies and Argies right now.

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                                      kidcalder
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #5733

                                      @LatsToTheMax
                                      I have often thought Clarke could go well in midfield - size and good feet.
                                      Maybe worth an experiment in super rugby to see what hands and vision are like

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                                        Darren
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #5734

                                        Well I think moving forward the backline is pretty obvious...

                                        9 Roigard
                                        10 Garden-Bachop
                                        11 Umaga-Jensen
                                        12 Higgins
                                        13 Proctor
                                        14 Tjay Clarke
                                        15 Love

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                                        • K kidcalder

                                          @LatsToTheMax
                                          I have often thought Clarke could go well in midfield - size and good feet.
                                          Maybe worth an experiment in super rugby to see what hands and vision are like

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                                          MiketheSnow
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                                          @kidcalder said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                          @LatsToTheMax
                                          I have often thought Clarke could go well in midfield - size and good feet.
                                          Maybe worth an experiment in super rugby to see what hands and vision are like

                                          Clarke is not the droid you’re looking for

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