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All Blacks 2024

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  • FrankF Frank

    @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

    Id tell the canes to start playing Love at 10 next season.

    No. Beauden is nearly finished and Jordan's best long term position could be wing.
    He deserves his chance at 15.

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    BerniesCorner
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    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

    Id tell the canes to start playing Love at 10 next season.

    No. Beauden is nearly finished and Jordan's best long term position could be wing.
    He deserves his chance at 15.

    BBs contracted to 2027 isn't he

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      LatsToTheMax
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      We had a gem in Nonu. Not tall but solid AF and had wheels. CC is built similar. I know he's our 11 right now but could he be an option with JB and AJLam in the future?

      I still think Tele'a is a right wing.

      We are so damn close. We bossed them again on attack for 50 mins.

      WJ is not going to have a blinder every test but he had zero impact at all. WT looked good.

      Again just some baffling calls by the refs but AGAIN, we have to acknowledge that the pictures we are painting aren't in the refs favour and we need to take them out of the game.

      I refuse to believe we are worse than the Wallabies and Argies right now.

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      • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

        @Frank said in All Blacks 2024:

        @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

        Id tell the canes to start playing Love at 10 next season.

        No. Beauden is nearly finished and Jordan's best long term position could be wing.
        He deserves his chance at 15.

        BBs contracted to 2027 isn't he

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        Frank
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        #5725

        @BerniesCorner
        I mean in terms of playing ability.

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          Yeahtheboys
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          #5726

          What head coaches are available? We’ve still got 3 years to salvage a chance at getting out of our group….

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          • Y Yeahtheboys

            What head coaches are available? We’ve still got 3 years to salvage a chance at getting out of our group….

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            canefan
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            @Yeahtheboys said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

            What head coaches are available? We’ve still got 3 years to salvage a chance at getting out of our group….

            Let's not panic yet. We lost a whole lot of leadership after RWC23 and it will take some time to rebuild. The coaching group haven't been perfect, hopefully they will learn from missteps quickly, especially in terms of selection

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              #5728

              Yeah we are not going to lose the Bledisloe ,short memories the Aussies got pumped by SA at home 33-7 and 30-12 with 2 different teams the Saffers fielded then Aussies had 60 points put on them by the Argies.
              We lost 2 close games v SA in SA and could have won both ,a few panic merchants on here .
              we have blooded a lot of players and are nearly 4 years away from a WC and some people are saying we won't get out of our pool at the WC.
              Calm done take a pill and sort your shit out.

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              • ChrisC Chris

                Yeah we are not going to lose the Bledisloe ,short memories the Aussies got pumped by SA at home 33-7 and 30-12 with 2 different teams the Saffers fielded then Aussies had 60 points put on them by the Argies.
                We lost 2 close games v SA in SA and could have won both ,a few panic merchants on here .
                we have blooded a lot of players and are nearly 4 years away from a WC and some people are saying we won't get out of our pool at the WC.
                Calm done take a pill and sort your shit out.

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                Duluth
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                #5729

                @Chris

                Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @Chris

                  Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations

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                  Chris
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                  #5730

                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Chris

                  Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations

                  I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.
                  SA are the best side in the World ATM.
                  We have to admit that and build a new team for the WC .
                  The loss to Argentina was more shit than the 2 loses to SA in SA.

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Chris

                    Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations

                    I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.
                    SA are the best side in the World ATM.
                    We have to admit that and build a new team for the WC .
                    The loss to Argentina was more shit than the 2 loses to SA in SA.

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                    Duluth
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #5731

                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                    I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.

                    How does it compare to what you wrote in the previous 2-3 seasons? I think the criticism has been mild

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                      I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.

                      How does it compare to what you wrote in the previous 2-3 seasons? I think the criticism has been mild

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                      Chris
                      wrote on last edited by Chris
                      #5732

                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                      I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.

                      How does it compare to what you wrote in the previous 2-3 seasons? I think the criticism has been mild

                      To be Fair I probably did blast Foster but this is one hell of a year for your first year as coach EOYT that is daunting 2 tests v SA in SA.
                      But I am not happy by the results either or totally convinced on the coaching group atm.
                      Maybe I am just sick of the negative shit now.Mine included.things happen out here in the real world like terminal illness we all have to deal with maybe I just want to be positive from now on.

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                      • LatsToTheMaxL LatsToTheMax

                        We had a gem in Nonu. Not tall but solid AF and had wheels. CC is built similar. I know he's our 11 right now but could he be an option with JB and AJLam in the future?

                        I still think Tele'a is a right wing.

                        We are so damn close. We bossed them again on attack for 50 mins.

                        WJ is not going to have a blinder every test but he had zero impact at all. WT looked good.

                        Again just some baffling calls by the refs but AGAIN, we have to acknowledge that the pictures we are painting aren't in the refs favour and we need to take them out of the game.

                        I refuse to believe we are worse than the Wallabies and Argies right now.

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                        kidcalder
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                        #5733

                        @LatsToTheMax
                        I have often thought Clarke could go well in midfield - size and good feet.
                        Maybe worth an experiment in super rugby to see what hands and vision are like

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                          Darren
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #5734

                          Well I think moving forward the backline is pretty obvious...

                          9 Roigard
                          10 Garden-Bachop
                          11 Umaga-Jensen
                          12 Higgins
                          13 Proctor
                          14 Tjay Clarke
                          15 Love

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                          • K kidcalder

                            @LatsToTheMax
                            I have often thought Clarke could go well in midfield - size and good feet.
                            Maybe worth an experiment in super rugby to see what hands and vision are like

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                            MiketheSnow
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                            @kidcalder said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                            @LatsToTheMax
                            I have often thought Clarke could go well in midfield - size and good feet.
                            Maybe worth an experiment in super rugby to see what hands and vision are like

                            Clarke is not the droid you’re looking for

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                              Frank
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                              Further out, Sititi at 8 and Lakai at 7 gives plenty of ball running power and then perhaps Suafoa or some other big munter at 6.

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                              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                @kidcalder said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                @LatsToTheMax
                                I have often thought Clarke could go well in midfield - size and good feet.
                                Maybe worth an experiment in super rugby to see what hands and vision are like

                                Clarke is not the droid you’re looking for

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                                canefan
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                                #5737

                                @MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                @kidcalder said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:

                                @LatsToTheMax
                                I have often thought Clarke could go well in midfield - size and good feet.
                                Maybe worth an experiment in super rugby to see what hands and vision are like

                                Clarke is not the droid you’re looking for

                                He's only just starting to play rest rugby well at wing! You could see Nonu had something early on, I don't see that with Clarke. If he can be a very good winger I'll be satisfied

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                                • ChrisC Chris

                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @Chris

                                  Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations

                                  I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.
                                  SA are the best side in the World ATM.
                                  We have to admit that and build a new team for the WC .
                                  The loss to Argentina was more shit than the 2 loses to SA in SA.

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                                  Bones
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                                  #5738

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @Chris

                                  Also the Argentina loss. 3 losses in 4 matches is well below expectations

                                  I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.
                                  SA are the best side in the World ATM.
                                  We have to admit that and build a new team for the WC .
                                  The loss to Argentina was more shit than the 2 loses to SA in SA.

                                  Am I recalling wrong or did you not defend Foster like this?

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                                    Bones
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                                    What the fuck is up with the kicking?

                                    We know we have good kickers in the side, we've seen them do it.

                                    Why is DMac taking a shot at goal from 60 when his range is 40? Why do we make so little ground when kicking for touch?

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.

                                      How does it compare to what you wrote in the previous 2-3 seasons? I think the criticism has been mild

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                                      African Monkey
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                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.

                                      How does it compare to what you wrote in the previous 2-3 seasons? I think the criticism has been mild

                                      It has. Like, I back every coach we have and I think things will improve once the selectors figure out what they want and who their best side is going forward, but the public and media Came down on Fozzie like a ton of bricks at any opportunity, yet every excuse under the sun is made for Razor and his team.

                                      This will be a great season for bringing Razor down a peg or 2 as well. Enough of these stupid 3 part docos on how great he is, parading around like a drunk idiot at the annual black clash, having everyone telling him how wonderful he is, picking and choosing what rep teams he wants to coach, hiding in SR when in all honesty, he outgrew the comp after about 3-4 seasons and I personally would have liked to have seen him take up another challenge before considering the ABs gig, his answer of 'I don't need to learn overseas, I already did my time over there as a player' something along those lines was of a concern to me, suggested he was too good for that sort of challenge etc. etc. He's also being a bit of a smart arse with his answers now that things aren't all going his way. He's only used to having everything in his favour and asked easy positive questions by the media.

                                      I believe he'll get there eventually and deserves year 2 at least to find the right team and style, but I also think he was a bit smug and thought it would be a lot easier than it has been despite the warnings from Jeff Wilson and the 1% of the public that didn't grease up to him.

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                                      • JetJ Jet

                                        What do you do if you are Razor here?

                                        Ireland England and France away from home in 8 weeks time.

                                        He needs wins on the board soon to keep the wolves from the door so he doesnt look like a busted flush himself.

                                        But the experienced heads are letting him down. Barrett kicking the ball away week in week out, McKenzie missing kicks. The captain dropping a pass cold today while hot on attack. Two completely avoidable yellow cards today.

                                        I hope he knows in his heart that some of these players are finished but by the same token , Lansdowne , Twickenham and Paris are tough places to give a couple of new guys game time concurrently.

                                        Maybe he needs to blood some newbies against Australia. Proctor and Love come to mind.

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                                        Landers92
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                                        #5741

                                        @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        But the experienced heads are letting him down. Barrett kicking the ball away week in week out, McKenzie missing kicks. The captain dropping a pass cold today while hot on attack. Two completely avoidable yellow cards today.

                                        This isn’t aimed at you in particular but it’s a prime example so don’t take this the wrong way.

                                        I don’t think I ever saw these kind of excuses for Foster and poor performances. It’s funny how things change when it suits someone’s narrative lol

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                                        • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          I agree it is but some of the BS on these threads is over the top.

                                          How does it compare to what you wrote in the previous 2-3 seasons? I think the criticism has been mild

                                          It has. Like, I back every coach we have and I think things will improve once the selectors figure out what they want and who their best side is going forward, but the public and media Came down on Fozzie like a ton of bricks at any opportunity, yet every excuse under the sun is made for Razor and his team.

                                          This will be a great season for bringing Razor down a peg or 2 as well. Enough of these stupid 3 part docos on how great he is, parading around like a drunk idiot at the annual black clash, having everyone telling him how wonderful he is, picking and choosing what rep teams he wants to coach, hiding in SR when in all honesty, he outgrew the comp after about 3-4 seasons and I personally would have liked to have seen him take up another challenge before considering the ABs gig, his answer of 'I don't need to learn overseas, I already did my time over there as a player' something along those lines was of a concern to me, suggested he was too good for that sort of challenge etc. etc. He's also being a bit of a smart arse with his answers now that things aren't all going his way. He's only used to having everything in his favour and asked easy positive questions by the media.

                                          I believe he'll get there eventually and deserves year 2 at least to find the right team and style, but I also think he was a bit smug and thought it would be a lot easier than it has been despite the warnings from Jeff Wilson and the 1% of the public that didn't grease up to him.

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                                          Duluth
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                                          #5742

                                          @African-Monkey

                                          Regarding the media stuff, it’ll be interesting to see how he copes with the English & Irish rugby media later in the year. They’ll ask aggressive questions and will be quite happy to make him a villain if he keeps giving smart arse answers

                                          It’s a bit different than having friendly chats with Knowler etc

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