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All Blacks 2024

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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @gt12 I just don't no , but must be Stephenson

    Isn't the knock on Stephenson his defence?

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

    @george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @gt12 I just don't no , but must be Stephenson

    Isn't the knock on Stephenson his defence?

    Was the knock on Marky Mark too and Roosters happily signed him....

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    • F Fredsaua12

      @george33 Stevenson doesn’t make any sense for the Roosters. He won’t play centre and they already have Tupou and Young on the wings.

      If it is an AB, it would most likely have to be a centre. Narawa has a NZ contract till 26. Tupaea is off contract 25 and so is Telea. Telea is 28 later this year so don’t think he would be a NRL convert either.

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      #6919

      @junior12 said in All Blacks 2024:

      and they already have Tupou

      Tupou is finishing 2026, but is already 33, I doubt he plays 1st grade as a winger until then suspect Marky Mark is back up here, but unknown at this stage

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        Machpants
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        #6920

        Oh good, Wayne Smith is still living in the past. The article is paywalled, but

        Sir Wayne Smith has outlined his vision for New Zealand rugby, that centres on embracing the grassroots game, harnessing coaching innovation and the All Blacks prioritising attacking intent to regain the mantle atop the world.

        So 2015 all over again, which has worked so well 2017+ 🙄

        https://tenor.com/bBQHl.gif

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        • M Machpants

          Oh good, Wayne Smith is still living in the past. The article is paywalled, but

          Sir Wayne Smith has outlined his vision for New Zealand rugby, that centres on embracing the grassroots game, harnessing coaching innovation and the All Blacks prioritising attacking intent to regain the mantle atop the world.

          So 2015 all over again, which has worked so well 2017+ 🙄

          https://tenor.com/bBQHl.gif

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          @Machpants upvote only for "jumping the shark"

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            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/how-the-all-blacks-became-rugbys-cultural-icons-in-japan-over-the-last-decade/V2TTWVVBE5C3HELBC7BIN4BMCY/

            Are Gregor Paul articles just A/B testing? There typically isn't much content.

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              #6923

              This video appeared on my feed today courtesy of the algorithm.

              Now have at it, you bunch of reasonable, agreeable, convivial, fluffy bunnies.

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                This video appeared on my feed today courtesy of the algorithm.

                Now have at it, you bunch of reasonable, agreeable, convivial, fluffy bunnies.

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                @Jet Yeah sure he can do all that stuff, but what about his instagram and body language?

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                  The Breakdown had real analysis.

                  It’s like a different program with Beaver there.

                  Actually Interesting in his discussion of tactics and how the back line is almost working.

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    The Breakdown had real analysis.

                    It’s like a different program with Beaver there.

                    Actually Interesting in his discussion of tactics and how the back line is almost working.

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                    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

                    The Breakdown had real analysis.

                    It’s like a different program with Beaver there.

                    Actually Interesting in his discussion of tactics and how the back line is almost working.

                    Oh cool I might watch it then

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                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

                      The Breakdown had real analysis.

                      It’s like a different program with Beaver there.

                      Actually Interesting in his discussion of tactics and how the back line is almost working.

                      Oh cool I might watch it then

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                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

                      The Breakdown had real analysis.

                      It’s like a different program with Beaver there.

                      Actually Interesting in his discussion of tactics and how the back line is almost working.

                      Oh cool I might watch it then

                      Be ready to use fast forward, especially when Shields is talking.

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                        Bovidae
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                        Shields was painful to listen to in the NZ-Eng post-match. Luckily I had recorded as I was only interested in the interviews, not the talking heads.

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                          Yeahtheboys
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                          I think we need Chay Fihaki this weekend

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                          • gt12G gt12

                            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

                            The Breakdown had real analysis.

                            It’s like a different program with Beaver there.

                            Actually Interesting in his discussion of tactics and how the back line is almost working.

                            Oh cool I might watch it then

                            Be ready to use fast forward, especially when Shields is talking.

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                            Machpants
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                            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

                            The Breakdown had real analysis.

                            It’s like a different program with Beaver there.

                            Actually Interesting in his discussion of tactics and how the back line is almost working.

                            Oh cool I might watch it then

                            Be ready to use fast forward, especially when Shields is talking.

                            I guess this is the good bit?

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                              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

                              The Breakdown had real analysis.

                              It’s like a different program with Beaver there.

                              Actually Interesting in his discussion of tactics and how the back line is almost working.

                              Oh cool I might watch it then

                              Be ready to use fast forward, especially when Shields is talking.

                              I guess this is the good bit?

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                              gt12
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                              @Machpants

                              From 12:00 where they talk about Beaver's take aways
                              First on Barrett kicking, then from 14:30 discussing play off 9, then from 17:45 discussing our attack focused on the front man and maybe not getting the balance right with the back runner.

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                                Machpants
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                                #6932

                                He should take over

                                https://media1.tenor.com/m/psGixr551DkAAAAC/nice-beaver-thanks-i-had-it-stuffed.gif

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                                  Bovidae
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                                  So Kieran Read thinks that Savea will move to 7 once Cane leaves and Sititi will play in his best position - no.8. No one will disagree about the latter but Ardie will need to change his game a lot to fill that new role, i.e., hit rucks and clean, and tackle someone.

                                  While Savea did pack at 7 when Finau replaced Cane it's what you do away from the scrum that is important in a loose forward trio.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    So Kieran Read thinks that Savea will move to 7 once Cane leaves and Sititi will play in his best position - no.8. No one will disagree about the latter but Ardie will need to change his game a lot to fill that new role, i.e., hit rucks and clean, and tackle someone.

                                    While Savea did pack at 7 when Finau replaced Cane it's what you do away from the scrum that is important in a loose forward trio.

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                                    gt12
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                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    So Kieran Read thinks that Savea will move to 7 once Cane leaves and Sititi will play in his best position - no.8. No one will disagree about the latter but Ardie will need to change his game a lot to fill that new role, i.e., hit rucks and clean, and tackle someone.

                                    While Savea did pack at 7 when Finau replaced Cane it's what you do away from the scrum that is important in a loose forward trio.

                                    I smell Shannon Frizell.

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                                      mariner4life
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                                      So that's the serious part of the year over. 4 losses, 3 on the road against good sides.

                                      In my opinion the things to look for next year

                                      Front row is in an excellent place, very happy.
                                      2nd row? I seriously question Scott Barretts spot in the side. Vaai has gone well past him, in all facets. Patty T comes off his best year as well. What exactly is he doing at such a high level to keep him in the side. If Holland kicks on like everyone expects...
                                      The loose forwards who played basically the whole game will get big wraps. On attack they looked good. If that is our trio next year, then one of them needs to learn to really hit guys. We need a couple of those back 5 forwards to smash guys.

                                      Please, can we give BB the "thanks for the great service and 2015, but it's time mate". He was so very ordinary today, and there was an instant shift in speed of thought and play when DMac came on.

                                      We need a fullback.

                                      We need a winger with some wheels.

                                      We need a serious Plan B option to play direct off 9 for a bit. We do the same thing over and over, passes out the back. We have the power players, and that play out the back is more effective when the opposition have to worry about the ball carrier maybe taking 5m is you slide off.

                                      We're bloody close, so many games this year the results could have been reversed (both ways) but I think we are actually the architects of our own destruction.

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                                        gt12
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                                        #6936

                                        Just add to that:

                                        We need a captain with some brains.
                                        Today’s game was there to win and our choice to go for goal kept the French in it. With five to go we kick for goal and still require a) secure the restart, b) make no mistakes to give up points, and c) have to go 80 metres with no errors.
                                        Poor captaincy.

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                                        • gt12G gt12

                                          Just add to that:

                                          We need a captain with some brains.
                                          Today’s game was there to win and our choice to go for goal kept the French in it. With five to go we kick for goal and still require a) secure the restart, b) make no mistakes to give up points, and c) have to go 80 metres with no errors.
                                          Poor captaincy.

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                                          stodders
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                                          @gt12 even the greatest captain the ABs have had in the modern era made mistakes when he took on the captaincy, culminating in the 2007 debacle.

                                          I thought SB has been much improved on this tour. He has been earning his place. I’ve also noticed his communication with refs is much improved too. The ABs have improved their discipline immeasurably and are not getting on the wrong side of the refs as much as they were earlier in the year. So now he needs to work on his decision making and reflect on missed opportunities in this game.

                                          I think he’s doing ok. Not great. But trending upwards.

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