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All Blacks 2024

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @taniwharugby a few more than that. Proctor, Darry etc

    But yes Love has a total of 22 minutes and Plummer has a total of 3 minutes.

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    @KiwiMurph I knew I'd be forgetting some.

    So 10, again, is pretty good on one hand, but you would say over half have been massively under used, especially when you look at the aging or out of form players that have sat in front of them.

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      Most of the minutes for the majority of these other players were against Fiji and Japan. Bell also got a token 1 min in the Ireland game, so what was the point of that? Perofeta wasn't even used in that test.

      Beauden must have a good contract that stipulates selection every week.

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        10 new players, but Sititi is the only one in the starting XV and even then being played out of position to favour the old war horses.

        The reluctance to blood new players this year has left me baffled.

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          i feel like the NZ rugby media is trying to gaslight me

          Paul Cully did a World XV article today, and put the "consistently excellent" Ardie Savea in it. At openside. The fuck?
          He also added Wallace Sititi, which in itself is not a terrible call, but at #8?

          Apparently Rob Valetini doesn't exist aye Paul?

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            Ardie Savea hasn't been any where near as bad as what people have made out.

            However after watching the last two Irish games I think you'd have to be having a laugh to pick him at 7 over JVDF.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Whilst Newell is a good scrummager - his scrummaging at test level doesn't seem to generate penalties the way it does at Super.

              Given Newell is poor around the field I don't think the trade off is worth it at test level.

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              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

              Whilst Newell is a good scrummager - his scrummaging at test level doesn't seem to generate penalties the way it does at Super.

              Given Newell is poor around the field I don't think the trade off is worth it at test level.

              Newell is a good cleaner and tackler. Like De Groot and Lomax he offers little to nothing as a carrier.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                i feel like the NZ rugby media is trying to gaslight me

                Paul Cully did a World XV article today, and put the "consistently excellent" Ardie Savea in it. At openside. The fuck?
                He also added Wallace Sititi, which in itself is not a terrible call, but at #8?

                Apparently Rob Valetini doesn't exist aye Paul?

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                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                i feel like the NZ rugby media is trying to gaslight me

                Paul Cully did a World XV article today, and put the "consistently excellent" Ardie Savea in it. At openside. The fuck?
                He also added Wallace Sititi, which in itself is not a terrible call, but at #8?

                Apparently Rob Valetini doesn't exist aye Paul?

                i had a discussion with someone this week who insisted "everyone" knows BB has been consistently excellent this year.....i feel like im going insane

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                  Ardie Savea hasn't been any where near as bad as what people have made out.

                  However after watching the last two Irish games I think you'd have to be having a laugh to pick him at 7 over JVDF.

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                  @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                  Ardie Savea hasn't been any where near as bad as what people have made out.

                  hard disagree

                  And the season's MotM polling seems to suggest i am far from alone.

                  Savea right now has a total of 2 points. For a guy who is the VC, started and played 80 in every test bar Fiji and Japan, and plays in a high profile position, that's about as underwhelming as it gets.
                  The only loose forward with less points is Ethan Blackadder.

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                    Ardie Savea hasn't been any where near as bad as what people have made out.

                    hard disagree

                    And the season's MotM polling seems to suggest i am far from alone.

                    Savea right now has a total of 2 points. For a guy who is the VC, started and played 80 in every test bar Fiji and Japan, and plays in a high profile position, that's about as underwhelming as it gets.
                    The only loose forward with less points is Ethan Blackadder.

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                    @mariner4life dont forget a player that was the road block to the super rugby players of the year getting a run for the AB's

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      i feel like the NZ rugby media is trying to gaslight me

                      Paul Cully did a World XV article today, and put the "consistently excellent" Ardie Savea in it. At openside. The fuck?
                      He also added Wallace Sititi, which in itself is not a terrible call, but at #8?

                      Apparently Rob Valetini doesn't exist aye Paul?

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                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                      i feel like the NZ rugby media is trying to gaslight me

                      Paul Cully did a World XV article today, and put the "consistently excellent" Ardie Savea in it. At openside. The fuck?
                      He also added Wallace Sititi, which in itself is not a terrible call, but at #8?

                      Apparently Rob Valetini doesn't exist aye Paul?

                      Was thinking that it's getting near time to do the TSF TOTY and thinking there'd not be many All Blacks getting nominated.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                        Ardie Savea hasn't been any where near as bad as what people have made out.

                        hard disagree

                        And the season's MotM polling seems to suggest i am far from alone.

                        Savea right now has a total of 2 points. For a guy who is the VC, started and played 80 in every test bar Fiji and Japan, and plays in a high profile position, that's about as underwhelming as it gets.
                        The only loose forward with less points is Ethan Blackadder.

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                        @mariner4life yep, although, most pundits that arent Kiwis seem to think he has played well this year

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @mariner4life yep, although, most pundits that arent Kiwis seem to think he has played well this year

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                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @mariner4life yep, although, most pundits that arent Kiwis seem to think he has played well this year

                          im not convinced overseas commenters aren't only watching the highlights

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @mariner4life yep, although, most pundits that arent Kiwis seem to think he has played well this year

                            im not convinced overseas commenters aren't only watching the highlights

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                            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @mariner4life yep, although, most pundits that arent Kiwis seem to think he has played well this year

                            im not convinced overseas commenters aren't only watching the highlights

                            there haven't exactly been a lot of those this year. certainly not like in previous years

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @mariner4life yep, although, most pundits that arent Kiwis seem to think he has played well this year

                              im not convinced overseas commenters aren't only watching the highlights

                              there haven't exactly been a lot of those this year. certainly not like in previous years

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                              @mariner4life true, i guess also just easy to fill some column space saying last years world player of the year is doing well again

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                              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @mariner4life yep, although, most pundits that arent Kiwis seem to think he has played well this year

                                im not convinced overseas commenters aren't only watching the highlights

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                                @Kiwiwomble I don't doubt that for some, but not all.

                                He certainly hasn't been at his YouTube reel best this year.

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                                  Reposting this to ask the question again, how the fuck is Reece in the squad, he is absolute dog-shit. Look at how slow he is here:

                                  https://twitter.com/GauthierBaudin/status/1858047763058954581

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    Reposting this to ask the question again, how the fuck is Reece in the squad, he is absolute dog-shit. Look at how slow he is here:

                                    https://twitter.com/GauthierBaudin/status/1858047763058954581

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                                    @Tim Sevu Reece was worth his place in the squad between 2019 and 2021, but he's slowed since and has limited impact in his last 15 or so Tests. It's a real shame that he has been picked ahead of younger, faster talent.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      Reposting this to ask the question again, how the fuck is Reece in the squad, he is absolute dog-shit. Look at how slow he is here:

                                      https://twitter.com/GauthierBaudin/status/1858047763058954581

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                                      @Tim ALB was much faster. Looks like we've got our Kahui for 27.

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                                        Kinda looked like Owen Franks running back in cover

                                        How is Reece at scrummaging ?

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Tim ALB was much faster. Looks like we've got our Kahui for 27.

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @Tim ALB was much faster. Looks like we've got our Kahui for 27.

                                          He wishes.

                                          Kahui was a terrific player, crikey I miss him. If Conrad Smith didn’t exist and he’d avoided injury he’d have got over 100 caps.

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