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All Blacks 2024

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

    Ardie Savea hasn't been any where near as bad as what people have made out.

    hard disagree

    And the season's MotM polling seems to suggest i am far from alone.

    Savea right now has a total of 2 points. For a guy who is the VC, started and played 80 in every test bar Fiji and Japan, and plays in a high profile position, that's about as underwhelming as it gets.
    The only loose forward with less points is Ethan Blackadder.

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    @mariner4life dont forget a player that was the road block to the super rugby players of the year getting a run for the AB's

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      i feel like the NZ rugby media is trying to gaslight me

      Paul Cully did a World XV article today, and put the "consistently excellent" Ardie Savea in it. At openside. The fuck?
      He also added Wallace Sititi, which in itself is not a terrible call, but at #8?

      Apparently Rob Valetini doesn't exist aye Paul?

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      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

      i feel like the NZ rugby media is trying to gaslight me

      Paul Cully did a World XV article today, and put the "consistently excellent" Ardie Savea in it. At openside. The fuck?
      He also added Wallace Sititi, which in itself is not a terrible call, but at #8?

      Apparently Rob Valetini doesn't exist aye Paul?

      Was thinking that it's getting near time to do the TSF TOTY and thinking there'd not be many All Blacks getting nominated.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

        Ardie Savea hasn't been any where near as bad as what people have made out.

        hard disagree

        And the season's MotM polling seems to suggest i am far from alone.

        Savea right now has a total of 2 points. For a guy who is the VC, started and played 80 in every test bar Fiji and Japan, and plays in a high profile position, that's about as underwhelming as it gets.
        The only loose forward with less points is Ethan Blackadder.

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        @mariner4life yep, although, most pundits that arent Kiwis seem to think he has played well this year

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @mariner4life yep, although, most pundits that arent Kiwis seem to think he has played well this year

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          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

          @mariner4life yep, although, most pundits that arent Kiwis seem to think he has played well this year

          im not convinced overseas commenters aren't only watching the highlights

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

            @mariner4life yep, although, most pundits that arent Kiwis seem to think he has played well this year

            im not convinced overseas commenters aren't only watching the highlights

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            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:

            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

            @mariner4life yep, although, most pundits that arent Kiwis seem to think he has played well this year

            im not convinced overseas commenters aren't only watching the highlights

            there haven't exactly been a lot of those this year. certainly not like in previous years

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:

              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

              @mariner4life yep, although, most pundits that arent Kiwis seem to think he has played well this year

              im not convinced overseas commenters aren't only watching the highlights

              there haven't exactly been a lot of those this year. certainly not like in previous years

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              @mariner4life true, i guess also just easy to fill some column space saying last years world player of the year is doing well again

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                @mariner4life yep, although, most pundits that arent Kiwis seem to think he has played well this year

                im not convinced overseas commenters aren't only watching the highlights

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                @Kiwiwomble I don't doubt that for some, but not all.

                He certainly hasn't been at his YouTube reel best this year.

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                  Reposting this to ask the question again, how the fuck is Reece in the squad, he is absolute dog-shit. Look at how slow he is here:

                  https://twitter.com/GauthierBaudin/status/1858047763058954581

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                  • TimT Tim

                    Reposting this to ask the question again, how the fuck is Reece in the squad, he is absolute dog-shit. Look at how slow he is here:

                    https://twitter.com/GauthierBaudin/status/1858047763058954581

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                    #7025

                    @Tim Sevu Reece was worth his place in the squad between 2019 and 2021, but he's slowed since and has limited impact in his last 15 or so Tests. It's a real shame that he has been picked ahead of younger, faster talent.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      Reposting this to ask the question again, how the fuck is Reece in the squad, he is absolute dog-shit. Look at how slow he is here:

                      https://twitter.com/GauthierBaudin/status/1858047763058954581

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                      @Tim ALB was much faster. Looks like we've got our Kahui for 27.

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                        #7027

                        Kinda looked like Owen Franks running back in cover

                        How is Reece at scrummaging ?

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Tim ALB was much faster. Looks like we've got our Kahui for 27.

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                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @Tim ALB was much faster. Looks like we've got our Kahui for 27.

                          He wishes.

                          Kahui was a terrific player, crikey I miss him. If Conrad Smith didn’t exist and he’d avoided injury he’d have got over 100 caps.

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                            @stodders said in All Blacks 2024:

                            Georgia’s Niniashvili is the fullback AB fans wish Will Jordan would be.

                            Check out the try he just created against Italy. Wow!

                            Jordan is not the answer at 15 for me. Right wing, he is elite. So premier NZ back 3 is 11. Clarke 14. Jordan 15. TBD

                            2025 is the year to find a fullback!

                            Ruben Love is an obvious choice for me when fit.

                            Agree that Jordan needs to go back to the wing.

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                            @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @stodders said in All Blacks 2024:

                            Georgia’s Niniashvili is the fullback AB fans wish Will Jordan would be.

                            Check out the try he just created against Italy. Wow!

                            Jordan is not the answer at 15 for me. Right wing, he is elite. So premier NZ back 3 is 11. Clarke 14. Jordan 15. TBD

                            2025 is the year to find a fullback!

                            Ruben Love is an obvious choice for me when fit.

                            Agree that Jordan needs to go back to the wing.

                            I think it is fair to give Jordan more time at fullback next year as he came into the AB season undercooked after missing super rugby.

                            But I do agree, at this stage it seems he serves the team better at 14 at the moment.

                            I would like to see Rueben Love get a run at fullback.

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                            • Windows97W Windows97

                              10 new players, but Sititi is the only one in the starting XV and even then being played out of position to favour the old war horses.

                              The reluctance to blood new players this year has left me baffled.

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                              @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024:

                              10 new players, but Sititi is the only one in the starting XV and even then being played out of position to favour the old war horses.

                              The reluctance to blood new players this year has left me baffled.

                              We have been told for a while now that super rugby isn’t getting players ready
                              For test rugby. Is supporters have accepted that as true.

                              However the debutants this year have done very well
                              In international rugby so we should learn the lesson that form
                              Players from super rugby should, by and large, do well when they take the step up to international rugby.

                              We have the talent in NZ to build a high quality AB squad over the next 12-24 months

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                                @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @stodders said in All Blacks 2024:

                                Georgia’s Niniashvili is the fullback AB fans wish Will Jordan would be.

                                Check out the try he just created against Italy. Wow!

                                Jordan is not the answer at 15 for me. Right wing, he is elite. So premier NZ back 3 is 11. Clarke 14. Jordan 15. TBD

                                2025 is the year to find a fullback!

                                Ruben Love is an obvious choice for me when fit.

                                Agree that Jordan needs to go back to the wing.

                                I think it is fair to give Jordan more time at fullback next year as he came into the AB season undercooked after missing super rugby.

                                But I do agree, at this stage it seems he serves the team better at 14 at the moment.

                                I would like to see Rueben Love get a run at fullback.

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                                @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024:

                                But I do agree, at this stage it seems he serves the team better at 14 at the moment.

                                Hopefully he can reach the same heights of his spectacular play in the RWC final.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  Reposting this to ask the question again, how the fuck is Reece in the squad, he is absolute dog-shit. Look at how slow he is here:

                                  https://twitter.com/GauthierBaudin/status/1858047763058954581

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                                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  Reposting this to ask the question again, how the fuck is Reece in the squad, he is absolute dog-shit. Look at how slow he is here:

                                  https://twitter.com/GauthierBaudin/status/1858047763058954581

                                  I’ve always found that slipping in a swear word gives a post more gravitas. Fucking good post Tim.

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                                    #7033

                                    https://www.planetrugby.com/news/israel-dagg-absolutely-gutted-after-all-blacks-prospect-who-could-have-been-a-big-part-of-the-picture-departs

                                    Izzy articulates my feelings about Plummer. It could be applied to other players if Razor doesn't jettison dead wood and give deserving guys a decent go

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                                      We need more pace in the backline.

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @Tim ALB was much faster. Looks like we've got our Kahui for 27.

                                        He wishes.

                                        Kahui was a terrific player, crikey I miss him. If Conrad Smith didn’t exist and he’d avoided injury he’d have got over 100 caps.

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                                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @Tim ALB was much faster. Looks like we've got our Kahui for 27.

                                        He wishes.

                                        Kahui was a terrific player, crikey I miss him. If Conrad Smith didn’t exist and he’d avoided injury he’d have got over 100 caps.

                                        If

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                                        • boobooB booboo

                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @Tim ALB was much faster. Looks like we've got our Kahui for 27.

                                          He wishes.

                                          Kahui was a terrific player, crikey I miss him. If Conrad Smith didn’t exist and he’d avoided injury he’d have got over 100 caps.

                                          If

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                                          @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @Tim ALB was much faster. Looks like we've got our Kahui for 27.

                                          He wishes.

                                          Kahui was a terrific player, crikey I miss him. If Conrad Smith didn’t exist and he’d avoided injury he’d have got over 100 caps.

                                          If

                                          .... if he didn't get crocked every few games

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