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Blues v Crusaders

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    #248

    Zarn Sullivan injured his knee. Scan tomorrow.

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      @booboo said in Blues v Crusaders:

      Who is this Forbes character? Goes ok

      BOP fullback, has been in Scotland for a few years and just came home last year

      He runs great lines. Not sure on his kicking from hand also he struggled on defence in an earlier game. Plenty of potential, I think he’s an upgrade on JRK

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      MiketheSnow
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      @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

      @booboo said in Blues v Crusaders:

      Who is this Forbes character? Goes ok

      BOP fullback, has been in Scotland for a few years and just came home last year

      He runs great lines. Not sure on his kicking from hand also he struggled on defence in an earlier game. Plenty of potential, I think he’s an upgrade on JRK

      Agreed

      Thought he was the difference in the backs

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      • BonesB Bones

        Oh hi @African-Monkey

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        African Monkey
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        @Bones HI how's it going?

        Yeah, just watching now, and yes, I'll concede, the Crusaders are in full rebuild. A lot of kids in the pack mixed with a lot of past it old men. Watching Joe Moody getting dominated by Marcel Renata of all people was quite sad to watch in a way as he was once a great player, but now it's barely a shadow of himself.

        Dare I say the Blues should be a bit disappointed not getting a BP? we left a fair few points out there. Obviously conditions didn't help, but I did feel like we should have had about 2 more tries with better option taking.

        Still, any win against the Crusaders is a good win no matter the situation so we'll take it.

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          So is Wilson calling Grace and Christie inexperienced now?

          TJ whinging about the players not there, get over it. Every team goes through it.

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          @Canes4life said in Blues v Crusaders:

          So is Wilson calling Grace and Christie inexperienced now?

          TJ whinging about the players not there, get over it. Every team goes through it.

          Tell me about it. If we ever had injuries over the years and attempted to bring it up during our dark days we got laughed out of town for it.

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            @booboo said in Blues v Crusaders:

            Who is this Forbes character? Goes ok

            BOP fullback, has been in Scotland for a few years and just came home last year

            He runs great lines. Not sure on his kicking from hand also he struggled on defence in an earlier game. Plenty of potential, I think he’s an upgrade on JRK

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            #252

            @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

            @booboo said in Blues v Crusaders:

            Who is this Forbes character? Goes ok

            BOP fullback, has been in Scotland for a few years and just came home last year

            He runs great lines. Not sure on his kicking from hand also he struggled on defence in an earlier game. Plenty of potential, I think he’s an upgrade on JRK

            You don't expect me to watch more than his obvious highlights?

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

              Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

              Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

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              Bones
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              @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

              Hannah missed 7

              You're welcome.

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @booboo said in Blues v Crusaders:

                Who is this Forbes character? Goes ok

                BOP fullback, has been in Scotland for a few years and just came home last year

                He runs great lines. Not sure on his kicking from hand also he struggled on defence in an earlier game. Plenty of potential, I think he’s an upgrade on JRK

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                Bones
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                @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                upgrade on JRK

                On evidence so far this year, I'm not sold on that one.

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                  Tuipulotu excellent. What a game from him. McWhannell also played very well.

                  Ricciitelli threw well (as did Vikena).

                  Cotter really has the Blues playing like a top 14 French team haha.

                  Grace might have to be the most disappointing Crusader. Just hasn't lifted and taked on a senior role.

                  Hotham and Hannah went well for Crusaders I thought.

                  Hard to get a read on many Crusaders cos they never got into their game and haven't all season.

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                    What’s missing in this modern age is good old fashioned honesty. Ricatelli and Aumua hang your heads in shame. Just admit you dropped the ball and spare us needless TMO intervention.

                    Crusaders are hopeless this year. When your recruits are crusaders players from 5 to 10 years ago you’re in trouble. Newell and Hannah the best of the forwards. No stand outs in the backs, that 10 is a world class journeyman.

                    I will never rate PT as he is hopeless in the line out at international level but he was good around the field. Solid win for the blues.

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                    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                      What’s missing in this modern age is good old fashioned honesty. Ricatelli and Aumua hang your heads in shame. Just admit you dropped the ball and spare us needless TMO intervention.

                      Crusaders are hopeless this year. When your recruits are crusaders players from 5 to 10 years ago you’re in trouble. Newell and Hannah the best of the forwards. No stand outs in the backs, that 10 is a world class journeyman.

                      I will never rate PT as he is hopeless in the line out at international level but he was good around the field. Solid win for the blues.

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                      @Billy-Tell said in Blues v Crusaders:

                      he is hopeless in the line out at international level

                      And yet one of the notable things about whenever he came off the bench was he seemed to steal the first lineout.

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                        #258

                        Rucks less than 3 seconds:

                        Blues: 56 (46%)
                        Crus: 11 (22%)

                        Ruck arrival stats
                        Screenshot 2024-03-24 at 11.50.00 AM.png

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                          Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                          Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

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                          Nevorian
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                          @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                          A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                          Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                          Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

                          23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

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                            @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                            A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                            Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                            Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

                            23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

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                            @Nevorian said in Blues v Crusaders:

                            @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                            A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                            Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                            Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

                            23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

                            77% for the game is low

                            Crusaders have missed more tackles than any other team in SR. Grace has missed the most tackles of any player in the competition

                            It's definitely a problem

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                              Finally able to watch the game and a few things really stick out for me. In no particular order:

                              1. Reece is, by orders of magnitude, the best player in the Crusaders.
                              2. Perofeta's decision making is shit. He costs points. Not a good trait for someone playing at 10.
                              3. Christie is an abysmal halfback. Shit pass, takes far too long to make a decision at rucks. Two phases in a row he waddled along while other players actually made an effort to do his job for him, quickly clearing the ball and passing. How he keeps getting minutes is a mystery.
                              4. The difference in this match was summed up by Clarke's brilliant defensive effort on Aumua.
                              5. How many games will Penney lose before he's sacked?
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                                The Crusaders are a mess and some players are just not up to this level and the others are floundering about headless. Lineout was an absolute disgrace. Even the commentators were dumbfounded by their decision to keep doing the same lineout formation failure after failure. The coaching box is not up to it, pure and simple.
                                Sad to see Moody's form. Reece and Newell were pretty good.
                                Blues on the other hand, doing the basics well esp. in the forward pack. Basically, did a Crusaders on the Crusaders, attacked the set piece, great maul defense, and bollocked them at the breakdown.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  McWhannell is very good in the air.

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                                  Bovidae
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                                  @Tim said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                  McWhannell is very good in the air.

                                  Yes, one of his main strengths is picking off opposition throws.

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                                  • nzzpN Online
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                                    nzzp
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                                    Just watching the second half

                                    Man the crusaders were lucky not to get more grief from the ref. They weren't even trying to be onside

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      @Nevorian said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                      @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                      A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                                      Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                                      Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

                                      23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

                                      77% for the game is low

                                      Crusaders have missed more tackles than any other team in SR. Grace has missed the most tackles of any player in the competition

                                      It's definitely a problem

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                                      Tim
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                                      @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                      Grace has missed the most tackles of any player in the competition

                                      His defence was poor in the NPC too. Not up to this level.

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        @Nevorian said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                        @Duluth said in Blues v Crusaders:

                                        A few Crusaders with some poor tackle stats

                                        Grace missed 8, Hannah missed 7

                                        Contrary to what TJ and Marshall said the misses were spread out across the game. Crusaders missed 44 tackles, but they actually missed 23 in the first half

                                        23/44 is about 50% so yes probably spread out across the game but what difference it makes not sure it is an absurdly high miss rate

                                        77% for the game is low

                                        Crusaders have missed more tackles than any other team in SR. Grace has missed the most tackles of any player in the competition

                                        It's definitely a problem

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                                        Bones
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                                        #266

                                        @Duluth was it an issue under Penney at the tahs too?

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Duluth was it an issue under Penney at the tahs too?

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                                          Duluth
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                                          @Bones

                                          Cant really remember. Maybe?

                                          Skimming through the 5 games in 2021 the Tahs got thrashed by the Brumbies (10-61) & Reds twice (7-41, 14-46) beaten comfortable by the Rebels (14-33) and lost narrowly to the Force (16-20)

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