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All Blacks vs England I

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  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

    @Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

    Robertson might want to ask Cotter for some advice about robust, test-level rugby tactics.

    Nah we’ve Wayne ‘Magic’ Smith.

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    @ACT-Crusader To be fair, no matter his other qualities, he was an absolutely terrible AB head coach whose team was the epitome of soft-as-shite Southern Hemisphere basketball rugby.

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    • boobooB booboo

      @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs England I:

      Well done NZ

      I called England winning the series 2-0 a month or so back and they should have been going to Eden Park 1 ahead with their tails up

      The door should have been shut with 20 mins to go

      NZ didn't panic, played the long game knowing England can't score from deep, and got tighter and more precise as the match wore on

      Thoroughly deserved their win

      NZ will now win the series 2-0

      Comfortably

      I think you're over rating England based on their ability to stay close. They had a period after half time. Other than that I felt ABs were on top.

      Delete the 2 mins before the break, and Damo's time out and England were Comfortably behind.

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      @booboo England were very good IMO. How many points did they miss from Smith 12 or 8? That normally wouldn’t happen.

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      • FrankF Frank

        Our best - Scott Barrett, Reece, Taylor - all Cantabrians as it happens.

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        @Frank said in All Blacks vs England I:

        Our best - Scott Barrett, Reece, Taylor - all Cantabrians as it happens.

        Taylor was average in that second half. Jordie was very good. Perenara was solid in that first half. Aumua and Newell very good off the bench.

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        • antipodeanA antipodean

          LOL Does JK ever say anything bad about players? Thinks DMac had a really good game.

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          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

          LOL Does JK ever say anything bad about players? Thinks DMac had a really good game.

          There's a reason he was a dud coach

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            Yeah Taylor was average, aumua much better

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              Officiating team were excellent I thought

              Quick, decisive calls which for the most part were correct. Incorrect/marginal calls went for/against both sides

              Game flowed well

              No cards. Well done players

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              • chimoausC chimoaus

                @booboo England were very good IMO. How many points did they miss from Smith 12 or 8? That normally wouldn’t happen.

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                @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England I:

                @booboo England were very good IMO. How many points did they miss from Smith 12?

                England were ok.

                But I'm picking we were 60-40 better.

                Could have lost, and it wouldn't have been a robbery. But we were better and deserved the Dub.

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                • TimT Tim

                  @ACT-Crusader To be fair, no matter his other qualities, he was an absolutely terrible AB head coach whose team was the epitome of soft-as-shite Southern Hemisphere basketball rugby.

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                  @Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

                  @ACT-Crusader To be fair, no matter his other qualities, he was an absolutely terrible AB head coach whose team was the epitome of soft-as-shite Southern Hemisphere basketball rugby.

                  And yeah that was 23+ years ago. He’s learned a thing or 3 about test rugby since those soft days

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @Frank said in All Blacks vs England I:

                    Our best - Scott Barrett, Reece, Taylor - all Cantabrians as it happens.

                    Taylor was average in that second half. Jordie was very good. Perenara was solid in that first half. Aumua and Newell very good off the bench.

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                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

                    @Frank said in All Blacks vs England I:

                    Our best - Scott Barrett, Reece, Taylor - all Cantabrians as it happens.

                    Taylor was average in that second half. Jordie was very good. Perenara was solid in that first half. Aumua and Newell very good off the bench.

                    I wonder why some rate Taylor so highly

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                      Am I the only one who thought Christie was alright off the bench? Thought he controlled things and helped us close the game out well.

                      Just because he doesn't possess Aaron Smith's pass doesn't mean he didn't play well in other areas.

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                        Barrett's are class

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                        • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                          Am I the only one who thought Christie was alright off the bench? Thought he controlled things and helped us close the game out well.

                          Just because he doesn't possess Aaron Smith's pass doesn't mean he didn't play well in other areas.

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                          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs England I:

                          Am I the only one who thought Christie was alright off the bench? Thought he controlled things and helped us close the game out well.

                          Just because he doesn't possess Aaron Smith's pass doesn't mean he didn't play well in other areas.

                          Overall, but he does have a brain explosion every other game or so and can dither.

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            Am liking Jamie George.

                            Nice bloke.

                            Why can't he be a fluffybunny so I hate him?

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                            @booboo said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            Am liking Jamie George.

                            Nice bloke.

                            Why can't he be a fluffybunny so I hate him?

                            To Borthwick's credit he's cut out a lot of the in-yer-face bullshit from Eddie;s reign. They're a better team as a result.

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                              All in all after so much change I’ll take a rusty first up W any day. We’ll only get better from here, especially as certain players get more rugby under their belts.

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                                MajorStokes
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                                Probably about what I expected all in all.

                                England are not shit and first game of a new era.

                                Happy to get the win and a base to build on.

                                Great refereeing I thought.

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                  @Tordah said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                  bring back foster

                                  And we would lose by 30

                                  If Smith had kicked one of two sitters we would have lost.

                                  Can understand the rust, but any game plan was non-existent and the breakdown work was really, really poor. Robertson might need some time to get his feet under the table, but that was a poor first time out. Expected a bit more tactics-wise.

                                  On the plus side, it might just calm down some of the over-blown hype around the man.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                  @Tordah said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                  bring back foster

                                  And we would lose by 30

                                  If Smith had kicked one of two sitters we would have lost.

                                  Can understand the rust, but any game plan was non-existent and the breakdown work was really, really poor. Robertson might need some time to get his feet under the table, but that was a poor first time out. Expected a bit more tactics-wise.

                                  On the plus side, it might just calm down some of the over-blown hype around the man.

                                  Same the other way D Mac timed out on a sitter and missed 2 conversions

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                                  • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                                    Am I the only one who thought Christie was alright off the bench? Thought he controlled things and helped us close the game out well.

                                    Just because he doesn't possess Aaron Smith's pass doesn't mean he didn't play well in other areas.

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                                    @African-Monkey Failed to use it from scrum. Got caught at base of ruck. And took ages to pass. Not all his fault but needs to be quicker to make decisions IMO. Not bad at all but room for improvement.

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                                      Maybe time for Sititi

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                                      • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                                        Am I the only one who thought Christie was alright off the bench? Thought he controlled things and helped us close the game out well.

                                        Just because he doesn't possess Aaron Smith's pass doesn't mean he didn't play well in other areas.

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                                        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                        Just because he doesn't possess Aaron Smith's pass doesn't mean he didn't play well in other areas.

                                        Not even close. That's a big issue

                                        TJ can fluff around at times but this half he was much better than OK

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                                        • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                                          Probably about what I expected all in all.

                                          England are not shit and first game of a new era.

                                          Happy to get the win and a base to build on.

                                          Great refereeing I thought.

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                                          @MajorRage said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                          Great refereeing I thought.

                                          On the whole yeah.

                                          Disagreed with some (first scrum pen Smith missed for example), but think both sides would have had issues.

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