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All Blacks vs England I

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  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    @mariner4life Finau is from the old school where forwards would put the fear of life into backs. I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk. And yes SB is a risk in that regard as well. We have to play smarter rugby and avoid having players sent off, it has cost us dearly in recent times. We would have won the RWC final easily if we'd managed to keep Cane and Frizzell on the park the full 80.

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk

    in the modern game, with World Rugby's misguided quest to prove rugby is safe and for everyone (it's not, and it never has been, and that's its fucking attraction) literally every rugby action is now a card risk when you have four guys pouring over super slow mo looking for transgressions.

    I prefer my risk around making a back have a look over, say, just winning one single ruck.

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @Winger said in All Blacks vs England I:

      England won't be in fear of this team. And the 'nice boy' jersey

      That jersey is a psychological masterstroke for England.

      It has an Eton collar - so if things are going badly for us, we only need say in lordly tones, "I say old chap, how dare you tackle me. Naff off" - and the English will lie down before us.

      db5ea4d2-0de3-448c-9493-092c5aacd985-image.png

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      @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England I:

      That jersey is a psychological masterstroke

      Sports jersey colour is a thing for sure. Lots of research been done on it.

      Google throws this up which amuses me:
      Yellow: A cheerful, vibrant color, yellow is associated with enthusiasm and excitement. Australian cricket teams frequently wear yellow uniforms"

      Yellow - not gold.
      There is no comment on Black and I seriously doubt that the English pysche will be affected by a white collar.

      That little distraction aside it will be interesting to see how we front up for this. Our first test of the year is usually shit so seeing how well a Razor coached team shows up will be intriguing. We know how a Stead coached team managed without match prep recently...

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

        I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk

        in the modern game, with World Rugby's misguided quest to prove rugby is safe and for everyone (it's not, and it never has been, and that's its fucking attraction) literally every rugby action is now a card risk when you have four guys pouring over super slow mo looking for transgressions.

        I prefer my risk around making a back have a look over, say, just winning one single ruck.

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        @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

        I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk

        in the modern game, with World Rugby's misguided quest to prove rugby is safe and for everyone (it's not, and it never has been, and that's its fucking attraction) literally every rugby action is now a card risk when you have four guys pouring over super slow mo looking for transgressions.

        I prefer my risk around making a back have a look over, say, just winning one single ruck.

        Agree with this, but even you beloved NRL is going the same way. Contact sports are fucked if the NRL is cracking down. What's happening in Origin, if they're cracking down there we may as well all start supporting touch teams.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

          I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk

          in the modern game, with World Rugby's misguided quest to prove rugby is safe and for everyone (it's not, and it never has been, and that's its fucking attraction) literally every rugby action is now a card risk when you have four guys pouring over super slow mo looking for transgressions.

          I prefer my risk around making a back have a look over, say, just winning one single ruck.

          Agree with this, but even you beloved NRL is going the same way. Contact sports are fucked if the NRL is cracking down. What's happening in Origin, if they're cracking down there we may as well all start supporting touch teams.

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          @Nepia said in All Blacks vs England I:

          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

          I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk

          in the modern game, with World Rugby's misguided quest to prove rugby is safe and for everyone (it's not, and it never has been, and that's its fucking attraction) literally every rugby action is now a card risk when you have four guys pouring over super slow mo looking for transgressions.

          I prefer my risk around making a back have a look over, say, just winning one single ruck.

          Agree with this, but even you beloved NRL is going the same way. Contact sports are fucked if the NRL is cracking down. What's happening in Origin, if they're cracking down there we may as well all start supporting touch team.

          TBF, the NRL has a way to go, because some shit that gets let go....

          But in complete agreeance that i believe contact sports are in serious danger. Once the door opened to the argument "look, i voluntarily played a game where the risk of getting smashed in the head was really high, but it is your fault i got smashed in the head" and the attitudes of soccer mums became more important than fans, we were doomed.

          So lets enjoy it while we can. Lets pick guys who want to eat the opposition. Lets go to Ireland and lay their fucking 10 out so i can masturbate to the howls from the crowd. Lets bring about the end quickly with a team of unprecedented brutality.

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          • SnowyS Snowy

            @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England I:

            That jersey is a psychological masterstroke

            Sports jersey colour is a thing for sure. Lots of research been done on it.

            Google throws this up which amuses me:
            Yellow: A cheerful, vibrant color, yellow is associated with enthusiasm and excitement. Australian cricket teams frequently wear yellow uniforms"

            Yellow - not gold.
            There is no comment on Black and I seriously doubt that the English pysche will be affected by a white collar.

            That little distraction aside it will be interesting to see how we front up for this. Our first test of the year is usually shit so seeing how well a Razor coached team shows up will be intriguing. We know how a Stead coached team managed without match prep recently...

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            @Snowy said in All Blacks vs England I:

            That little distraction aside it will be interesting to see how we front up for this. Our first test of the year is usually shit so seeing how well a Razor coached team shows up will be intriguing. We know how a Stead coached team managed without match prep recently...

            That is a definite concern.

            Within reason, this team looks like they've favoured people who have played recently.

            Perofeta > Beauden
            Jacobson > Blackadder
            Ofa > Williams

            Only four Crusaders in the 23, which must be the least for a Tier 1 test match in a while. Noted for those who were squealing about bias! 🙂

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              @Chris-B the Crusaders couldn't make the top 8 in a 12 team competition, even the Highlanders managed that! 4 is too many.

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                #347

                Some changes for the second test!

                https://www.instagram.com/p/C8-xdZxS_Wt/?igsh=dmtpNnd3NjgzZzlk

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                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                  @Chris-B the Crusaders couldn't make the top 8 in a 12 team competition, even the Highlanders managed that! 4 is too many.

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                  @No-Quarter Razor is a very smart man.

                  When this team stacked with North Islanders falls over the first hurdle, he'll sack Wayne Smith from his selection oversight role and install @ACT-Crusader ! 🙂

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                    My first thoughts , not a lot different to what fozzie would’ve picked.

                    I suppose when razor sprinkles his magic dust over them it will look much different.

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                    • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                      My first thoughts , not a lot different to what fozzie would’ve picked.

                      I suppose when razor sprinkles his magic dust over them it will look much different.

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                      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs England I:

                      My first thoughts , not a lot different to what fozzie would’ve picked.

                      I suppose when razor sprinkles his magic dust over them it will look much different.

                      Definitely need to see what pattern they play. I'm hoping for a little more simplicity, less high risk and more direct

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        My first thoughts , not a lot different to what fozzie would’ve picked.

                        I suppose when razor sprinkles his magic dust over them it will look much different.

                        Definitely need to see what pattern they play. I'm hoping for a little more simplicity, less high risk and more direct

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                        @canefan said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        My first thoughts , not a lot different to what fozzie would’ve picked.

                        I suppose when razor sprinkles his magic dust over them it will look much different.

                        Definitely need to see what pattern they play. I'm hoping for a little more simplicity, less high risk and more direct

                        bro, the late Fozzie gameplan was incredibly simple and incredibly risk free
                        Bend don't break defense
                        Long periods with ball in play early in the game to tire defenses.
                        Pragmatic attack to ensure we kept the ball
                        Low turnover attempts to ensure defensive numbers.

                        It's been a fair while since we were overdoing the kick pass to spread the defense out.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @canefan said in All Blacks vs England I:

                          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs England I:

                          My first thoughts , not a lot different to what fozzie would’ve picked.

                          I suppose when razor sprinkles his magic dust over them it will look much different.

                          Definitely need to see what pattern they play. I'm hoping for a little more simplicity, less high risk and more direct

                          bro, the late Fozzie gameplan was incredibly simple and incredibly risk free
                          Bend don't break defense
                          Long periods with ball in play early in the game to tire defenses.
                          Pragmatic attack to ensure we kept the ball
                          Low turnover attempts to ensure defensive numbers.

                          It's been a fair while since we were overdoing the kick pass to spread the defense out.

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                          @mariner4life
                          More like Joe Schmidt's gameplan.

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                          • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                            My first thoughts , not a lot different to what fozzie would’ve picked.

                            I suppose when razor sprinkles his magic dust over them it will look much different.

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                            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            My first thoughts , not a lot different to what fozzie would’ve picked.

                            I suppose when razor sprinkles his magic dust over them it will look much different.

                            it's a very "balanced" team, so no obvious pointers to a way they will look to play.

                            And in reality, there aren't THAT many ways to play test rugby anyway.

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                            • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                              My first thoughts , not a lot different to what fozzie would’ve picked.

                              I suppose when razor sprinkles his magic dust over them it will look much different.

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                              @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              My first thoughts , not a lot different to what fozzie would’ve picked.

                              I suppose when razor sprinkles his magic dust over them it will look much different.

                              He wasn't going to drastically pick a different 23 for test 1 against England with 2 weeks lead in

                              Let's see how the team evolves over the season

                              Fozzie's first test he had Jordie at 14. Urgh.

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                                Off the bench Blackadder, TJP and SP, assuming Bodie is FB

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                                @The-Docter said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                Off the bench Blackadder, TJP and SP, assuming Bodie is FB

                                Ouch.

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                                  So annoying not seeing Love there instead of Perofeta. Love overall was much better than him this year. Perofeta definitely looks out of place.

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                                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                    So annoying not seeing Love there instead of Perofeta. Love overall was much better than him this year. Perofeta definitely looks out of place.

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                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                    So annoying not seeing Love there instead of Perofeta. Love overall was much better than him this year. Perofeta definitely looks out of place.

                                    Unfortunately for Love he picked up an injury at the wrong time of the season. He played through but didn't look the same.

                                    His best form came at the beginning/middle of the year rather than the end.

                                    He is very close though

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                                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                      Some changes for the second test!

                                      https://www.instagram.com/p/C8-xdZxS_Wt/?igsh=dmtpNnd3NjgzZzlk

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                                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                      Some changes for the second test!

                                      https://www.instagram.com/p/C8-xdZxS_Wt/?igsh=dmtpNnd3NjgzZzlk

                                      For to even be in the environment is very interesting to say the least…

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                                      • Landers92L Landers92

                                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                        Some changes for the second test!

                                        https://www.instagram.com/p/C8-xdZxS_Wt/?igsh=dmtpNnd3NjgzZzlk

                                        For to even be in the environment is very interesting to say the least…

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                                        @Landers92 i assume there are tackle bags that need holding :cat_face_with_tears_of_joy:

                                        or they swung by rebel, bought some kit and bluffed their way in, this pic is them getting sprung

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                                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                          @Landers92 i assume there are tackle bags that need holding :cat_face_with_tears_of_joy:

                                          or they swung by rebel, bought some kit and bluffed their way in, this pic is them getting sprung

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                                          @Kiwiwomble yeah, opposing for the AB’s you would think.

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