All Blacks vs England I

Windows97

Back in 2014 TJ made his debut against England at Eden park, Tuipulotu was on the bench but didn't get a cap.

I'd like to congratulate both players on their longevity.

mariner4life

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

Though, after Jacobson got car5ded because he tackled with force, maybe you whiny bitches are right, and rugby really is a game for faeries now.

we live in debauched, effeminate times. Gone are the days when you only got red for having the temerity to be the best player on a team that was beating the ABs AND you laid the (legal) tackle of the decade on the AB ten.

Fuck I had forgotten about that. That was shit then, let alone now.

But yeah, it was two yellows.

That saffer pack was mean as fuck. I miss them. These days they are somehow blacker but also more homogenised.

From brutal to boring: the sanitisation of south African rugby.

Kiwiwomble

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

Interesting that the last 4 red cards by an All Black are

Ofa - Blues
Scooter - Saders
Jordie - Canes
Cane - Chiefs

This is in no way an endorsement of selecting more Highlander players

cant get cards if you dont have anyone playing :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

Kruse

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs England I:

@Winger Has any team ever been scared of a jersey??

Every NZer, terrified about a return of a grey alternative jersey.

KiwiMurph

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs England I:

I think we starting to see NZR (and Razors etc) setting a more professional/marketing orientated plans with ABs

Agreed. There's another video coming out tonight about the 2024 ABs on YouTube / NZR+

KiwiMurph

The match is a confirmed sell out.

Excellent

ACT Crusader

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

The match is a confirmed sell out.

Excellent

So less than 800 or 600 tickets is still correct….

nzzp

@ACT-Crusader outstanding Ferning

booboo

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

The match is a confirmed sell out.

Excellent

So less than 800 or 600 tickets is still correct….

Nearly #booboo'ed. Glad I checked.

Old Samurai Jack

Sell out crowd under the roof. A new beginning. A new-look team. What is not to like? Bloody excited about this one.
I think they got the loose forward mix right. Hopefully, Finau cuts people in half and creates doubt about running at our fringes like Kaino / Collins eras.
Pat T has something to prove at test level. Someone needs to stitch a Blues jersey to the inside of the AB one. It looks like he has come of age though. Fingers crossed.
All I ask is some kind of tactical plan, some innovation, basically something to forget the recent "lost years".

mikedogz

Via Database:

This is the first time the All Blacks have had no Test debutants in their First Test of the season for 35 years.
Last having none in 1989.
0- 1985, 1989, 2024 *
1- 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1999, 2007, 2011, 2013, 2018, 2023
2- 1987, 1994, 1996, 2008, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2022
3- 1992, 1995, 1998, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2012, 2020
4- 1997, 2000, 2005, 2015, 2019, 2021
5-
6- 2010
7-
8-
9-
10-
11- 1986

DaGrubster

@Smuts

Easy to get a chance to try for a black belt at least.

Not for poor old Siya. He did everything he could in the final to get one but the judges were under orders to not let it happen

Kiwiwomble

@mikedogz said in All Blacks vs England I:

Via Database:

This is the first time the All Blacks have had no Test debutants in their First Test of the season for 35 years.
Last having none in 1989.
0- 1985, 1989, 2024 *
1- 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1999, 2007, 2011, 2013, 2018, 2023
2- 1987, 1994, 1996, 2008, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2022
3- 1992, 1995, 1998, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2012, 2020
4- 1997, 2000, 2005, 2015, 2019, 2021
5-
6- 2010
7-
8-
9-
10-
11- 1986

interesting stat given its the year after a RWC and i always kind of think thats when we would have the most turn over

Bones

@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:

@mikedogz said in All Blacks vs England I:

Via Database:

This is the first time the All Blacks have had no Test debutants in their First Test of the season for 35 years.
Last having none in 1989.
0- 1985, 1989, 2024 *
1- 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1999, 2007, 2011, 2013, 2018, 2023
2- 1987, 1994, 1996, 2008, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2022
3- 1992, 1995, 1998, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2012, 2020
4- 1997, 2000, 2005, 2015, 2019, 2021
5-
6- 2010
7-
8-
9-
10-
11- 1986

interesting stat given its the year after a RWC and i always kind of think thats when we would have the most turn over

Probably also when you look to have those guys in the team who've typically played second fiddle as you can't slot debutantes in between your experienced/superstar players.

Tim

@mikedogz In how many of those years did we play a team like Tonga in the first test?

nzzp

@Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

@mikedogz In how many of those years did we play a team like Tonga in the first test?

I looked up 2010 with six debutants - not sure I could pick them all from the lineup though!

Edit and it was Ireland in New Plymouth. Heaslip red card for kneeing McCaw, O'Gara yellow for taking out player. not a good day for Ireland.
http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/teamsheet.asp?MT_ID=2182

mariner4life

Brisbane Ferners

Which are the rugby pubs these days? Normanby?

Unite

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

Brisbane Ferners

Which are the rugby pubs these days? Normanby?

Regatta is generally a safe bet, their website indicates that are showing it, whether the sound will be on is another story…

https://regattahotel.com.au/eat-drink/main-bar/

antipodean

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs England I:

Brisbane Ferners

Which are the rugby pubs these days? Normanby?

Port Office
Regatta
Caxton
Criterion
Stock Exchange
Brekky Creek

Screens are one thing, sound is something different.

Frank

What's the referee for this match like?
Any opinions?

The Silver Fern

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