Springboks vs All Blacks I
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I wish the ABs would stop
Blowing smoke up the saffas ass about how great they are. It’s reminiscent of the black caps when they go to Australia.Say we respect them but we are only interested in smashing those fuckers
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I really hope the second half structure doesn't turn to custard.
What with Saffa time wasting tactics of drink and injury breaks; along with a recent AB trend of subs and second half lack of structure this game could end up another dour spectacle.@BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I really hope the second half structure doesn't turn to custard.
What with Saffa time wasting tactics of drink and injury breaks; along with a recent AB trend of subs and second half lack of structure this game could end up another dour spectacle.How their skullduggery hasn’t been reined in yet is beyond me. I’d be on to the refs week in week out. Ramping it up in the media etc.
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I wish the ABs would stop
Blowing smoke up the saffas ass about how great they are. It’s reminiscent of the black caps when they go to Australia.Say we respect them but we are only interested in smashing those fuckers
@DaGrubster said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
I wish the ABs would stop
Blowing smoke up the saffas ass about how great they are. It’s reminiscent of the black caps when they go to Australia.Say we respect them but we are only interested in smashing those fuckers
That’s it. I want a massive hit early doors.
Even if they get the pass away. Just line someone up and empty him.
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@mariner4life said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Riiiiight
Firstly, super rugby is not test rugby
Secondly, we are picking Jordie for.no other reason than he is a big dumb lump to truck it up. When he does literally anything else he fucks it up. Explosive and dynamic? Give me strength.
I love Reiko Ioane, but didn't he fail to score a single try this super season despite playing against shit Australian teams and playing for the best team in the comp?
I think Jordie went from being an average fullback to a poor wing to a handy 2nd five, certainly playing after David Havilli helped…..but those who laud him as this Jonah like Mastadon are just talking absolute bullshit.
Good player, players in other teams are better though.
@MN5 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@mariner4life said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Riiiiight
Firstly, super rugby is not test rugby
Secondly, we are picking Jordie for.no other reason than he is a big dumb lump to truck it up. When he does literally anything else he fucks it up. Explosive and dynamic? Give me strength.
I love Reiko Ioane, but didn't he fail to score a single try this super season despite playing against shit Australian teams and playing for the best team in the comp?
I think Jordie went from being an average fullback to a poor wing to a handy 2nd five, certainly playing after David Havilli helped…..but those who laud him as this Jonah like Mastadon are just talking absolute bullshit.
Good player, players in other teams are better though.
I think the Leinster move will be good for him.
Might sharpen up his act with regard to the fundamentals. Less profligate with the pill.
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@mariner4life said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
You're talking shit Daryl
I'll watch that final again (no I won't) and watch jordie stink the joint out.
DdE is the player Jordie fluffers think Jordie is. I would take him in a heartbeat.
Kreil is hugely underrated here, he is strong on the carry and free his outsides. If he was a kiwi people would cream over him.Plus throw in Esterhuizen and Am and it’s fair to say their midfield is a bit more stacked than ours.
@MN5 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@mariner4life said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
You're talking shit Daryl
I'll watch that final again (no I won't) and watch jordie stink the joint out.
DdE is the player Jordie fluffers think Jordie is. I would take him in a heartbeat.
Kreil is hugely underrated here, he is strong on the carry and free his outsides. If he was a kiwi people would cream over him.Plus throw in Esterhuizen and Am and it’s fair to say their midfield is a bit more stacked than ours.
Am was the best player in the world in my opinion just before he got injured.
Superb decision making. Really really clever player.
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Ab winning % during the timeline of Wayne Barnes coaching career = 86% (roughly
27 AB tests reffed by Wayne Barnes = 64% winning %
If an AB coach only had the his AB coaching career reffed by Barnes he would be the least successful coach in AB history
@DaGrubster said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Ab winning % during the timeline of Wayne Barnes coaching career = 86% (roughly
27 AB tests reffed by Wayne Barnes = 64% winning %
If an AB coach only had the his AB coaching career reffed by Barnes he would be the least successful coach in AB history
Not sure this makes the point you think it does.
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@LatsToTheMax said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
We are due a good game of rugby with the South Africans.
2023 Twickenham was dire and so was the WC final.
Two of the most mistake ridden , disjointed games of rugby I've seen involving the ABs.And the refereeing/tmo involvement was a thundering disgrace.
I will never have that match mentioned without saying it.
Im still fucking seething over it.
I still can't believe no one is talking about nor, talked about the forearm from Kitsoff into Frizell's head that caused him to ilegally fall over and risk the life of the ground beneath him.
You're new here. We gnashed over that, Cane's RC vs Kolisi's YC, and the performance of the ref and TMO for a long time after the game
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@LatsToTheMax said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
We are due a good game of rugby with the South Africans.
2023 Twickenham was dire and so was the WC final.
Two of the most mistake ridden , disjointed games of rugby I've seen involving the ABs.And the refereeing/tmo involvement was a thundering disgrace.
I will never have that match mentioned without saying it.
Im still fucking seething over it.
I still can't believe no one is talking about nor, talked about the forearm from Kitsoff into Frizell's head that caused him to ilegally fall over and risk the life of the ground beneath him.
You're new here. We gnashed over that, Cane's RC vs Kolisi's YC, and the performance of the ref and TMO for a long time after the game
Cut that out. Some of us are
trying to wring a few more wanks out of your despair at losing another World Cup Finalgraciously enjoy our team’s deserved victory -
@DaGrubster said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Ab winning % during the timeline of Wayne Barnes coaching career = 86% (roughly
27 AB tests reffed by Wayne Barnes = 64% winning %
If an AB coach only had the his AB coaching career reffed by Barnes he would be the least successful coach in AB history
Not sure this makes the point you think it does.
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Read into it what you will.
It’s just facts. And the facts are pretty clear.
What is the point I am trying to make?
@DaGrubster said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Read into it what you will.
It’s just facts. And the facts are pretty clear.
What is the point I am trying to make?
What I read into it is that when reffed by a very fine referee over the period in question the ABs lost lot more than when reffed by referees who on average were worse than Barnes.
I’d like to see more data but it suggests that the ABs perform worse under better quality reffing.
Given his stature, Barnes also likely got given bigger games so it might also say something about the ABs under pressure, but we’d need to look a lot harder at the games he reffed to see.
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@DaGrubster said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Read into it what you will.
It’s just facts. And the facts are pretty clear.
What is the point I am trying to make?
What I read into it is that when reffed by a very fine referee over the period in question the ABs lost lot more than when reffed by referees who on average were worse than Barnes.
I’d like to see more data but it suggests that the ABs perform worse under better quality reffing.
Given his stature, Barnes also likely got given bigger games so it might also say something about the ABs under pressure, but we’d need to look a lot harder at the games he reffed to see.
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@DaGrubster said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Read into it what you will.
It’s just facts. And the facts are pretty clear.
What is the point I am trying to make?
What I read into it is that when reffed by a very fine referee over the period in question the ABs lost lot more than when reffed by referees who on average were worse than Barnes.
I’d like to see more data but it suggests that the ABs perform worse under better quality reffing.
Given his stature, Barnes also likely got given bigger games so it might also say something about the ABs under pressure, but we’d need to look a lot harder at the games he reffed to see.
@Smuts said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@DaGrubster said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
What is the point I am trying to make?
What I read into it
There's the problem right there..
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@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Smuts said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Take his name outta your mouth
Will Smith? I think you'll find he supports the Men in Black.
You can have him
@W32 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Will Smith? I think you'll find he supports the Men in Black.
You can have him
Fair swap, you can have Chris Rock as forward or back. Probably his best position is as a simple swap for Willie, slower feet but faster mouth.
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@Smuts said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@stodders this is my first non-troll series of posts in this thread.
Stop trying to take the underdogs tag. Boks by anthowsand
@Bones said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Smuts said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@stodders this is my first non-troll series of posts in this thread.
Stop trying to take the underdogs tag. Boks by anthowsand
I’m definitely not trying to take the underdogs tag.
At Ellis Park as reigning back to back world champions with the wiliest head coach who seduced the best attack coach on earth we should beat the world’s next best team coached by a breakdancer who couldn’t even make the olympics or keep his attack coach.
What’s great about our rivalry though is that home ground advantage, favourites, underdog status, form book, logic and, sadly more often than not, the moral order of the universe, simply don’t matter.
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@W32 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Will Smith? I think you'll find he supports the Men in Black.
You can have him
Fair swap, you can have Chris Rock as forward or back. Probably his best position is as a simple swap for Willie, slower feet but faster mouth.
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@W32 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Will Smith? I think you'll find he supports the Men in Black.
You can have him
Fair swap, you can have Chris Rock as forward or back. Probably his best position is as a simple swap for Willie, slower feet but faster mouth.
We’ve got a few good replacement options for WLR.
But Rock might be handy as an annoying ruck rat - great timing, knows how to go for the jugular, gets under the oppo’s skin and takes a klap as a badge of honour.
Guess you’re taking the soft-shouldered cuck to upgrade your blindside?
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@MN5 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@darylmitchell said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Saffa backline is massively overrated on here, it's because they won the WC playing a methodical gameplan where everyone is the sum of their parts, and does only exactly what's required for them, the only ones who i'd pick in our 23 is either of Kriel and Dellende over ALB on the bench and Feinberg over Dmac at a stretch.
South Africa have better props and better bench locks & loosies but that's it.
De Allende would piss in ahead of Jordie. Class player. Kriel would probably force Reiko to the wing too.
First five is a coin toss.
Watch the RWC final again, their backs are limited and posed little threat to us despite 15 vs 14.
these players also versed our guys in Super Rugby and mostly got walked over.
France and Ireland certainly have better backlines than SA. England's is about par with them.
my theory is folks on here and our media give them too much respect because they're our traditional rivals and we have a unique relationship off the field.
@darylmitchell said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@MN5 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@darylmitchell said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Saffa backline is massively overrated on here, it's because they won the WC playing a methodical gameplan where everyone is the sum of their parts, and does only exactly what's required for them, the only ones who i'd pick in our 23 is either of Kriel and Dellende over ALB on the bench and Feinberg over Dmac at a stretch.
South Africa have better props and better bench locks & loosies but that's it.
De Allende would piss in ahead of Jordie. Class player. Kriel would probably force Reiko to the wing too.
First five is a coin toss.
Watch the RWC final again, their backs are limited and posed little threat to us despite 15 vs 14.
these players also versed our guys in Super Rugby and mostly got walked over.
France and Ireland certainly have better backlines than SA. England's is about par with them.
my theory is folks on here and our media give them too much respect because they're our traditional rivals and we have a unique relationship off the field.
The big difference is they have improved since the WC courtesy of coaching and personnel
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@DaGrubster said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Read into it what you will.
It’s just facts. And the facts are pretty clear.
What is the point I am trying to make?
What I read into it is that when reffed by a very fine referee over the period in question the ABs lost lot more than when reffed by referees who on average were worse than Barnes.
I’d like to see more data but it suggests that the ABs perform worse under better quality reffing.
Given his stature, Barnes also likely got given bigger games so it might also say something about the ABs under pressure, but we’d need to look a lot harder at the games he reffed to see.
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You have just talked yourself out of an analysis work in any field of business with this rancid take Smuts.
@DaGrubster that hurts almost as much as if you’d made a reasonable counter argument.
