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All Blacks vs Wallabies I

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    KiwiInLondon
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    RugbyPass rating Savea 8 and McKenzie 6. Are people insane?

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      His Bobness
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      The Emperor? Naked.

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        Frank
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        Dunno about you guys, but I've been learning a lot about short-man syndrome from this coaching group.

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        • LatsToTheMaxL LatsToTheMax

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          Well, whatever the problems are with the ABs, from what we've seen so far, Robertson really doesn't look to be the rugby savant, the super-coach with the magic solution, game-plans and blender of teams with mental skills for tough moments, does he?

          After the peak of the RWC Final, we've gone backwards at an alarming rate and the excuses about players like Whitelock and Smith retiring don't wash. The best players today were their replacements.

          Give Robertson more time by all means, but NZR needs a drains-up review of this team's performance to find what exactly is wrong, how to fix it, and - if the coaching team is up to the job - give them the support they need.

          He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods. So to say we are going backwards I don't think is accurate. But I do agree this is beyond a massive issue.

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          canefan
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          @LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          Well, whatever the problems are with the ABs, from what we've seen so far, Robertson really doesn't look to be the rugby savant, the super-coach with the magic solution, game-plans and blender of teams with mental skills for tough moments, does he?

          After the peak of the RWC Final, we've gone backwards at an alarming rate and the excuses about players like Whitelock and Smith retiring don't wash. The best players today were their replacements.

          Give Robertson more time by all means, but NZR needs a drains-up review of this team's performance to find what exactly is wrong, how to fix it, and - if the coaching team is up to the job - give them the support they need.

          He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods. So to say we are going backwards I don't think is accurate. But I do agree this is beyond a massive issue.

          It's exciting. But lacking control. I want more comtrol

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            kev
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            We created lots on attack and should have finished more plus one taken by the TMO.

            But defence is the issue. They have to sort that loose forward trio. Savea always backs away in the tackle and then looks to turn over. It’s just not what we need.

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              canefan
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              Our midfield defence was porous

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                kiwiinmelb
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                Together we walk

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                  I will say Wallace Sititi is looking like a bloody good 6 to me!

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                  • Dan54D Dan54

                    I will say Wallace Sititi is looking like a bloody good 6 to me!

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                    @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    I will say Wallace Sititi is looking like a bloody good 6 to me!

                    And he'll be a better 8 when they have the balls to drop Savea.

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                    • K KiwiInLondon

                      RugbyPass rating Savea 8 and McKenzie 6. Are people insane?

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                      @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                      RugbyPass rating Savea 8 and McKenzie 6. Are people insane?

                      RugbyPass is The Roar for window lickers.

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                        Again, our bench made no impact. We are a 40 minute team and with the current team management I cannot see any way out of this hole🚍

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                        • LatsToTheMaxL LatsToTheMax

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                          Well, whatever the problems are with the ABs, from what we've seen so far, Robertson really doesn't look to be the rugby savant, the super-coach with the magic solution, game-plans and blender of teams with mental skills for tough moments, does he?

                          After the peak of the RWC Final, we've gone backwards at an alarming rate and the excuses about players like Whitelock and Smith retiring don't wash. The best players today were their replacements.

                          Give Robertson more time by all means, but NZR needs a drains-up review of this team's performance to find what exactly is wrong, how to fix it, and - if the coaching team is up to the job - give them the support they need.

                          He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods. So to say we are going backwards I don't think is accurate. But I do agree this is beyond a massive issue.

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                          Victor Meldrew
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                          @LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                          He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods

                          Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.

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                            FFS - Razor's interview on aussie coverage... the positives are pretty much "learnings".
                            "...big growth area..." Boo. We were promised shiny new things. We got a naked emperor.

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              Our midfield defence was porous

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                              @canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                              Our midfield defence was porous

                              Well, we were missing two backs for most of the second half.

                              But we can all guess what your solution is.

                              However, the story falls apart a bit when you see that it was Rieko making huge saves using his pace. His turn and catch after ALB missed one was magic.

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                @LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods

                                Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.

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                                DaGrubster
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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                @LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods

                                Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.

                                You can thank the Wallaby coach for that. It seemed like a dumb move at the time to not keep him in AB rugby

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                                  game_film
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                                  @Machpants I do love a sick triceratops reference.

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                                  • His BobnessH His Bobness

                                    The Emperor? Naked.

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                                    @His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                    The Emperor? Naked.

                                    I think we are experiencing the end result of the compound interest from previous poor decision making at executive level, sliding doors moments on the field (Lions test 2 and 3), I.P exports, player diaspora, Aura erosion and a lack of ruthlessness within the playing and coaching group.

                                    You used to lose your job or lose your jersey when your performance wasnt up to scratch in Allblack rugby.

                                    Its a hippie commune now.

                                    I wouldnt be surprised to see Ratima and Sititi on the back seats of the bus.

                                    There are no nasty bastards or ruthless undercurrent in the team any more. I know I sound like a dinosaur, but we are now a brand to be milked as opposed to the high performance killing machine of old.

                                    We need the odd lad smoking fags on a balcony, throwing the odd punch, and dare I say it we too in the public need to be spitting at racehorses again.

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                                      kev
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                                      Scrum was disappointing….

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                                      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                        Together we walk

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                                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                        Together we walk

                                        Maybe they need to start running.

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                                        • gt12G gt12

                                          @canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                          Our midfield defence was porous

                                          Well, we were missing two backs for most of the second half.

                                          But we can all guess what your solution is.

                                          However, the story falls apart a bit when you see that it was Rieko making huge saves using his pace. His turn and catch after ALB missed one was magic.

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                                          canefan
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                                          @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                          @canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                          Our midfield defence was porous

                                          Well, we were missing two backs for most of the second half.

                                          But we can all guess what your solution is.

                                          However, the story falls apart a bit when you see that it was Rieko making huge saves using his pace. His turn and catch after ALB missed one was magic.

                                          No, before that. The Aussies seemed to be able to peel off their scrum and run straight down the field almost at will. I'm not sure if it's the forwards failing to cover, or if they are running at 10 or 12.

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