All Blacks vs Wallabies I
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@His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
The Emperor? Naked.
I think we are experiencing the end result of the compound interest from previous poor decision making at executive level, sliding doors moments on the field (Lions test 2 and 3), I.P exports, player diaspora, Aura erosion and a lack of ruthlessness within the playing and coaching group.
You used to lose your job or lose your jersey when your performance wasnt up to scratch in Allblack rugby.
Its a hippie commune now.
I wouldnt be surprised to see Ratima and Sititi on the back seats of the bus.
There are no nasty bastards or ruthless undercurrent in the team any more. I know I sound like a dinosaur, but we are now a brand to be milked as opposed to the high performance killing machine of old.
We need the odd lad smoking fags on a balcony, throwing the odd punch, and dare I say it we too in the public need to be spitting at racehorses again.
@Jet could not agree with this more. I knew as soon as that video came out of Savea crying because he gets to play for Moana Pacifica that we were screwed
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@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
This might sound silly, but are we fit enough? Are we overplaying our hand physically in the first 60 mins.
Maybe the lack of control means we burn too much energy early. Razor isn't confident with his bench either
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
This might sound silly, but are we fit enough? Are we overplaying our hand physically in the first 60 mins.
Maybe the lack of control means we burn too much energy early. Razor isn't confident with his bench either
Nor am I!
ALB was shit. Jacobson is a jobber at this level. Aumua has been crap. Ofa hasn't done much and got risolled.Williams added today. But guys who have come on and added something have been few and far between.
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Savea needs to be cut completely. I wouldn't even have him in the 23 anymore. Worst AB forward on the field.
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Savea needs to be cut completely. I wouldn't even have him in the 23 anymore.
Savea and Beaudy are two of our biggest onfield problems to solve and have been for years.
World beaters on YouTube, panel beaters in the flesh.
We have been building our cake around their "icing and sprinkles" instead of the other way round.
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The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods
Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.
You can thank the Wallaby coach for that. It seemed like a dumb move at the time to not keep him in AB rugby
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods
Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.
You can thank the Wallaby coach for that. It seemed like a dumb move at the time to not keep him in AB rugby
Deliberate decision to go with an (almost) completely fresh coaching set-up, wasn't it? Or did Robertson not want Schmidt?
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@darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Savea needs to be cut completely. I wouldn't even have him in the 23 anymore.
Savea and Beaudy are two of our biggest onfield problems to solve and have been for years.
World beaters on YouTube, panel beaters in the flesh.
We have been building our cake around their "icing and sprinkles" instead of the other way round.
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Savea needs to be cut completely. I wouldn't even have him in the 23 anymore.
Savea and Beaudy are two of our biggest onfield problems to solve and have been for years.
I wonder if they would be better suited to shoring up the the subs.
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods
Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.
You can thank the Wallaby coach for that. It seemed like a dumb move at the time to not keep him in AB rugby
Deliberate decision to go with an (almost) completely fresh coaching set-up, wasn't it? Or did Robertson not want Schmidt?
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods
Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.
You can thank the Wallaby coach for that. It seemed like a dumb move at the time to not keep him in AB rugby
Deliberate decision to go with an (almost) completely fresh coaching set-up, wasn't it? Or did Robertson not want Schmidt?
I think it was the other way round. That is how it was portrayed in 2022.
Schmidt would have been an excellent choice to formally take over the reins this year after informally taking them from Fozzie for the last 18 months.
I can see why the clamour for Razor though and probably thought he owed him one after the fox u turn in Aug 2022
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods
Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.
You can thank the Wallaby coach for that. It seemed like a dumb move at the time to not keep him in AB rugby
Deliberate decision to go with an (almost) completely fresh coaching set-up, wasn't it? Or did Robertson not want Schmidt?
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods
Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.
You can thank the Wallaby coach for that. It seemed like a dumb move at the time to not keep him in AB rugby
Deliberate decision to go with an (almost) completely fresh coaching set-up, wasn't it? Or did Robertson not want Schmidt?
Schmidt didn’t want to work with Razor is what I heard.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
This might sound silly, but are we fit enough? Are we overplaying our hand physically in the first 60 mins.
Maybe the lack of control means we burn too much energy early. Razor isn't confident with his bench either
Nor am I!
ALB was shit. Jacobson is a jobber at this level. Aumua has been crap. Ofa hasn't done much and got risolled.Williams added today. But guys who have come on and added something have been few and far between.
Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.
His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.
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The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now
@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now
I agree with this.
5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.
Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.
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@Tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Narawa must be wondering what he did wrong.
Speaking of ineffective cleans, Reece may be a live wire but he is a little body and cleans like one. We were in deep shit every time he was forced to clean.
See also Will Jordan on this.
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Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.
His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.
His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.
They need to give Bell a chance at hooker.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods
Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.
You can thank the Wallaby coach for that. It seemed like a dumb move at the time to not keep him in AB rugby
Deliberate decision to go with an (almost) completely fresh coaching set-up, wasn't it? Or did Robertson not want Schmidt?
Schmidt didn’t want to work with Razor is what I heard.
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods
Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.
You can thank the Wallaby coach for that. It seemed like a dumb move at the time to not keep him in AB rugby
Deliberate decision to go with an (almost) completely fresh coaching set-up, wasn't it? Or did Robertson not want Schmidt?
Schmidt didn’t want to work with Razor is what I heard.
Can see why....
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This might sound silly, but are we fit enough? Are we overplaying our hand physically in the first 60 mins.
@Darth-Sader and a lack of fitness can lead to poor decision making and execution
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@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now
I agree with this.
5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.
Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now
I agree with this.
5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.
Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.
Frank Bunce had 55 caps.
ALB has 72.
There are far too many Allblacks who’s candle is being allowed to burn out while in the jersey rather than being cast aside early leaving us to ponder what if.
The former is much worse than the latter.
If the World Cup was tomorrow, this coaching ticket (and the last) would leave a Milner Skudder at home and bring a Beauden Barrett instead.
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@Tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Narawa must be wondering what he did wrong.
Speaking of ineffective cleans, Reece may be a live wire but he is a little body and cleans like one. We were in deep shit every time he was forced to clean.
See also Will Jordan on this.
