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All Blacks vs Wallabies I

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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

    @LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

    He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods

    Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.

    You can thank the Wallaby coach for that. It seemed like a dumb move at the time to not keep him in AB rugby

    Deliberate decision to go with an (almost) completely fresh coaching set-up, wasn't it? Or did Robertson not want Schmidt?

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    Darth Sader
    wrote on last edited by
    #1352

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

    @LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

    He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods

    Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.

    You can thank the Wallaby coach for that. It seemed like a dumb move at the time to not keep him in AB rugby

    Deliberate decision to go with an (almost) completely fresh coaching set-up, wasn't it? Or did Robertson not want Schmidt?

    Schmidt didn’t want to work with Razor is what I heard.

    African MonkeyA 1 Reply Last reply
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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

      @Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

      This might sound silly, but are we fit enough? Are we overplaying our hand physically in the first 60 mins.

      Maybe the lack of control means we burn too much energy early. Razor isn't confident with his bench either

      Nor am I!
      ALB was shit. Jacobson is a jobber at this level. Aumua has been crap. Ofa hasn't done much and got risolled.

      Williams added today. But guys who have come on and added something have been few and far between.

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      gt12
      wrote on last edited by
      #1353

      @mariner4life

      Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.

      His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.

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      • DamoD Offline
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        Damo
        wrote on last edited by
        #1354

        22 years of Bledisloe dominance.

        It's bad, but it's not all bad.

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          Tim
          wrote on last edited by
          #1355

          Narawa must be wondering what he did wrong.

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          • K KiwiInLondon

            The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

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            DaGrubster
            wrote on last edited by
            #1356

            @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

            The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

            I agree with this.

            5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

            Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

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            • TimT Tim

              Narawa must be wondering what he did wrong.

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              gt12
              wrote on last edited by
              #1357

              @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

              Narawa must be wondering what he did wrong.

              Speaking of ineffective cleans, Reece may be a live wire but he is a little body and cleans like one. We were in deep shit every time he was forced to clean.

              See also Will Jordan on this.

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              • gt12G gt12

                @mariner4life

                Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.

                His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.

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                KiwiMurph
                wrote on last edited by
                #1358

                @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                @mariner4life

                Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.

                His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.

                They need to give Bell a chance at hooker.

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                • Darth SaderD Darth Sader

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods

                  Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.

                  You can thank the Wallaby coach for that. It seemed like a dumb move at the time to not keep him in AB rugby

                  Deliberate decision to go with an (almost) completely fresh coaching set-up, wasn't it? Or did Robertson not want Schmidt?

                  Schmidt didn’t want to work with Razor is what I heard.

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                  African Monkey
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1359

                  @Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  He's got the ABs playing pretty good rugby for 40-60 minutes. I wouldn't say Foster had the team looking this good for those periods

                  Have a look at the last 3 games of the RWC and tell me we haven't gone backwards and Robertson has this team looking better for longer periods.

                  You can thank the Wallaby coach for that. It seemed like a dumb move at the time to not keep him in AB rugby

                  Deliberate decision to go with an (almost) completely fresh coaching set-up, wasn't it? Or did Robertson not want Schmidt?

                  Schmidt didn’t want to work with Razor is what I heard.

                  Can see why....

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                  • Darth SaderD Darth Sader

                    This might sound silly, but are we fit enough? Are we overplaying our hand physically in the first 60 mins.

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                    barky1
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1360

                    @Darth-Sader and a lack of fitness can lead to poor decision making and execution

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                    • D DaGrubster

                      @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                      The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

                      I agree with this.

                      5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

                      Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

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                      JetJ Offline
                      Jet
                      wrote on last edited by Jet
                      #1361

                      @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                      @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                      The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

                      I agree with this.

                      5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

                      Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

                      Frank Bunce had 55 caps.

                      ALB has 72.

                      There are far too many Allblacks who’s candle is being allowed to burn out while in the jersey rather than being cast aside early leaving us to ponder what if.

                      The former is much worse than the latter.

                      If the World Cup was tomorrow, this coaching ticket (and the last) would leave a Milner Skudder at home and bring a Beauden Barrett instead.

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                      • gt12G gt12

                        @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                        Narawa must be wondering what he did wrong.

                        Speaking of ineffective cleans, Reece may be a live wire but he is a little body and cleans like one. We were in deep shit every time he was forced to clean.

                        See also Will Jordan on this.

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                        Frank
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1362

                        @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                        See also Will Jordan on this.

                        Feel like he is overrated.
                        Riding the back of the space created by better AB teams.
                        Love would be a better option at 15.
                        Jordan is a 14 or nothing.

                        JetJ 1 Reply Last reply
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                          Donsteppa
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1363

                          We start games like a Rolls Royce, and finish like a Datsun on three wheels.

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                          • KiwiMurphK Online
                            KiwiMurphK Online
                            KiwiMurph
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1364

                            At least Razor will get to drink out of the Bledisloe

                            Something he never did as a player - being capped during the dark years of 98-02.

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                              Tordah
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1365

                              What the hell is up with TMOs and ridiculous knock on calls against the ABs lately? Springboks game one was decided by that margin and this one almost as well. There needs to be some accountability. Unbelievable

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                At least Razor will get to drink out of the Bledisloe

                                Something he never did as a player - being capped during the dark years of 98-02.

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                                Frank
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1366

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                At least Razor will get to drink out of the Bledisloe

                                Something he never did as a player - being capped during the dark years of 98-02.

                                Oh wow!
                                That makes me feel a lot better!

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                                • D DaGrubster

                                  @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                  The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

                                  I agree with this.

                                  5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

                                  Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

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                                  K Offline
                                  kev
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1367

                                  @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                  @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                  The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

                                  I agree with this.

                                  5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

                                  Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

                                  Agree

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                                  • FrankF Frank

                                    @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                    See also Will Jordan on this.

                                    Feel like he is overrated.
                                    Riding the back of the space created by better AB teams.
                                    Love would be a better option at 15.
                                    Jordan is a 14 or nothing.

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                                    Jet
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1368

                                    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                    @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                    See also Will Jordan on this.

                                    Feel like he is overrated.
                                    Riding the back of the space created by better AB teams.
                                    Love would be a better option at 15.
                                    Jordan is a 14 or nothing.

                                    While your point on his position may have merit I think you are harsh on Jordan there. He has scored tries from nothing that basically no other Allblack has been doing since “PlayStation Beaudy”.

                                    Jordan’s tries against Ireland in the cake tin, the chip and chase against Wales and USA, the semi final try against Argentina display a skill nobody else in the squad has shown us. The only other time an Allblack has created a “hold my beer” moment in recent memory was Roigard against the Boks in Twickenham.

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                                    • JetJ Jet

                                      @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                      @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                      The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

                                      I agree with this.

                                      5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

                                      Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

                                      Frank Bunce had 55 caps.

                                      ALB has 72.

                                      There are far too many Allblacks who’s candle is being allowed to burn out while in the jersey rather than being cast aside early leaving us to ponder what if.

                                      The former is much worse than the latter.

                                      If the World Cup was tomorrow, this coaching ticket (and the last) would leave a Milner Skudder at home and bring a Beauden Barrett instead.

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                                      African Monkey
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1369

                                      @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                      @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                      @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                      The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

                                      I agree with this.

                                      5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

                                      Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

                                      Frank Bunce had 55 caps.

                                      ALB has 72.

                                      There are far too many Allblacks who’s candle is being allowed to burn out while in the jersey rather than being cast aside early leaving us to ponder what if.

                                      The former is much worse than the latter.

                                      If the World Cup was tomorrow, this coaching ticket (and the last) would leave a Milner Skudder and home and bring a Beauden Barrett instead.

                                      None of them hierarchy have the balls to move players on anymore.

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                                      • JetJ Jet

                                        @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                        Savea needs to be cut completely. I wouldn't even have him in the 23 anymore.

                                        Savea and Beaudy are two of our biggest onfield problems to solve and have been for years.

                                        World beaters on YouTube, panel beaters in the flesh.

                                        We have been building our cake around their "icing and sprinkles" instead of the other way round.

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                                        kev
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1370

                                        @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                        @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                        Savea needs to be cut completely. I wouldn't even have him in the 23 anymore.

                                        Savea and Beaudy are two of our biggest onfield problems to solve and have been for years.

                                        World beaters on YouTube, panel beaters in the flesh.

                                        We have been building our cake around their "icing and sprinkles" instead of the other way round.

                                        100%

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                          @mariner4life

                                          Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.

                                          His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.

                                          They need to give Bell a chance at hooker.

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                                          gt12
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1371

                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                          @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                          @mariner4life

                                          Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.

                                          His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.

                                          They need to give Bell a chance at hooker.

                                          If there was any selection pressure, yes.

                                          But that’s not how it seems to be at all.

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