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All Blacks vs Wallabies I

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  • TordahT Offline
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    Tordah
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    #1365

    What the hell is up with TMOs and ridiculous knock on calls against the ABs lately? Springboks game one was decided by that margin and this one almost as well. There needs to be some accountability. Unbelievable

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      At least Razor will get to drink out of the Bledisloe

      Something he never did as a player - being capped during the dark years of 98-02.

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      #1366

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

      At least Razor will get to drink out of the Bledisloe

      Something he never did as a player - being capped during the dark years of 98-02.

      Oh wow!
      That makes me feel a lot better!

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      • D DaGrubster

        @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

        The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

        I agree with this.

        5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

        Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

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        #1367

        @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

        @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

        The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

        I agree with this.

        5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

        Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

        Agree

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        • FrankF Frank

          @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          See also Will Jordan on this.

          Feel like he is overrated.
          Riding the back of the space created by better AB teams.
          Love would be a better option at 15.
          Jordan is a 14 or nothing.

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          #1368

          @Frank said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          See also Will Jordan on this.

          Feel like he is overrated.
          Riding the back of the space created by better AB teams.
          Love would be a better option at 15.
          Jordan is a 14 or nothing.

          While your point on his position may have merit I think you are harsh on Jordan there. He has scored tries from nothing that basically no other Allblack has been doing since “PlayStation Beaudy”.

          Jordan’s tries against Ireland in the cake tin, the chip and chase against Wales and USA, the semi final try against Argentina display a skill nobody else in the squad has shown us. The only other time an Allblack has created a “hold my beer” moment in recent memory was Roigard against the Boks in Twickenham.

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          • JetJ Jet

            @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

            @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

            The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

            I agree with this.

            5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

            Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

            Frank Bunce had 55 caps.

            ALB has 72.

            There are far too many Allblacks who’s candle is being allowed to burn out while in the jersey rather than being cast aside early leaving us to ponder what if.

            The former is much worse than the latter.

            If the World Cup was tomorrow, this coaching ticket (and the last) would leave a Milner Skudder at home and bring a Beauden Barrett instead.

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            African Monkey
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            #1369

            @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

            @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

            @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

            The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

            I agree with this.

            5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

            Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

            Frank Bunce had 55 caps.

            ALB has 72.

            There are far too many Allblacks who’s candle is being allowed to burn out while in the jersey rather than being cast aside early leaving us to ponder what if.

            The former is much worse than the latter.

            If the World Cup was tomorrow, this coaching ticket (and the last) would leave a Milner Skudder and home and bring a Beauden Barrett instead.

            None of them hierarchy have the balls to move players on anymore.

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            • JetJ Jet

              @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

              Savea needs to be cut completely. I wouldn't even have him in the 23 anymore.

              Savea and Beaudy are two of our biggest onfield problems to solve and have been for years.

              World beaters on YouTube, panel beaters in the flesh.

              We have been building our cake around their "icing and sprinkles" instead of the other way round.

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              @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

              @darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

              Savea needs to be cut completely. I wouldn't even have him in the 23 anymore.

              Savea and Beaudy are two of our biggest onfield problems to solve and have been for years.

              World beaters on YouTube, panel beaters in the flesh.

              We have been building our cake around their "icing and sprinkles" instead of the other way round.

              100%

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                @mariner4life

                Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.

                His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.

                They need to give Bell a chance at hooker.

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                #1371

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                @mariner4life

                Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.

                His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.

                They need to give Bell a chance at hooker.

                If there was any selection pressure, yes.

                But that’s not how it seems to be at all.

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                • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                  @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

                  I agree with this.

                  5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

                  Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

                  Frank Bunce had 55 caps.

                  ALB has 72.

                  There are far too many Allblacks who’s candle is being allowed to burn out while in the jersey rather than being cast aside early leaving us to ponder what if.

                  The former is much worse than the latter.

                  If the World Cup was tomorrow, this coaching ticket (and the last) would leave a Milner Skudder and home and bring a Beauden Barrett instead.

                  None of them hierarchy have the balls to move players on anymore.

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                  canefan
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                  #1372

                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  The ABs need to go fresh and young and commit to it now

                  I agree with this.

                  5-6 senior players have been part of the leadership problem for 5 or so years. But still get picked every week.

                  Ratima, Sititi, Williams have shown that if you give the talent the chance it will take it.

                  Frank Bunce had 55 caps.

                  ALB has 72.

                  There are far too many Allblacks who’s candle is being allowed to burn out while in the jersey rather than being cast aside early leaving us to ponder what if.

                  The former is much worse than the latter.

                  If the World Cup was tomorrow, this coaching ticket (and the last) would leave a Milner Skudder and home and bring a Beauden Barrett instead.

                  None of them hierarchy have the balls to move players on anymore.

                  I'd respect the coaches more if they picked the kids

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @Kruse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    @nta will be gutted he missed that comeback, especially when you consider he’s gone to watch a band who’s sole claim to fame is a shitty cover of ‘Black Betty’

                    whose

                    That’s pretty solid proofreading from someone as pissed as you.

                    In my defence I was on the phone one handed while washing some plates

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                    nostrildamus
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                    #1373

                    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    @Kruse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    @nta will be gutted he missed that comeback, especially when you consider he’s gone to watch a band who’s sole claim to fame is a shitty cover of ‘Black Betty’

                    whose

                    That’s pretty solid proofreading from someone as pissed as you.

                    In my defence I was on the phone one handed while washing some plates

                    "on the phone one handed" gets on my 'new euphemisms' list.

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                    • Darth SaderD Darth Sader

                      This might sound silly, but are we fit enough? Are we overplaying our hand physically in the first 60 mins.

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                      nostrildamus
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                      #1374

                      @Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                      This might sound silly, but are we fit enough? Are we overplaying our hand physically in the first 60 mins.

                      I think our props are having trouble with fitness. Not sure about the locks, VP stayed pretty active. I think Cane is having trouble keeping up though.

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                        #1375

                        First three Aussie tries came from defensive howlers by Ardie Savea and the fourth by one by DMac.

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                        • sparkyS sparky

                          First three Aussie tries came from defensive howlers by Ardie Savea and the fourth by one by DMac.

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                          Tordah
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                          #1376

                          @sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                          First three Aussie tries came from defensive howlers by Ardie Savea and the fourth by one by DMac.

                          First was Sam cane missing the tackle on faessler

                          Edit: or was it the second one?

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            I can see why Sititi is seen as having leadership potential. Dude rips in and actually leads by example.

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                            nostrildamus
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                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                            I can see why Sititi is seen as having leadership potential. Dude rips in and actually leads by example.

                            He Ratima TJP and maybe Vaa'i looked the leaders on the field to me.

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                            • TordahT Tordah

                              @sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                              First three Aussie tries came from defensive howlers by Ardie Savea and the fourth by one by DMac.

                              First was Sam cane missing the tackle on faessler

                              Edit: or was it the second one?

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                              nostrildamus
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                              @Tordah said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                              @sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                              First three Aussie tries came from defensive howlers by Ardie Savea and the fourth by one by DMac.

                              First was Sam cane missing the tackle on faessler

                              Cane made good tackles and missed important ones. That is his main feature so if he can't do that consistently I'd look around for a successor.

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                              • gt12G gt12

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                @mariner4life

                                Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.

                                His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.

                                They need to give Bell a chance at hooker.

                                If there was any selection pressure, yes.

                                But that’s not how it seems to be at all.

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                                nostrildamus
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                                #1379

                                @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                @mariner4life

                                Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.

                                His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.

                                They need to give Bell a chance at hooker.

                                If there was any selection pressure, yes.

                                But that’s not how it seems to be at all.

                                Aumua has gone down hill and seems a liability and handbrake from the bench where I would have thought he'd make an ideal impact player.

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                                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                  @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                  @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                  @mariner4life

                                  Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.

                                  His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.

                                  They need to give Bell a chance at hooker.

                                  If there was any selection pressure, yes.

                                  But that’s not how it seems to be at all.

                                  Aumua has gone down hill and seems a liability and handbrake from the bench where I would have thought he'd make an ideal impact player.

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                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                  @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                  @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                  @mariner4life

                                  Aumua might be the biggest disappointment in supposed talent of the last five years.

                                  His clean work was fucking atrocious, and his running game seems to have disappeared . And then there is the set piece - or more correctly lack of set piece.

                                  They need to give Bell a chance at hooker.

                                  If there was any selection pressure, yes.

                                  But that’s not how it seems to be at all.

                                  Aumua has gone down hill and seems a liability and handbrake from the bench where I would have thought he'd make an ideal impact player.

                                  @Canes4life thoughts?

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                                    Another reason to give Bell a chance is Samisoni is back soon

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      Another reason to give Bell a chance is Samisoni is back soon

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                      Another reason to give Bell a chance is Samisoni is back soon

                                      I hope he's improved his throwing if he does get a go. His throwing was hideous during super rugby.

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                                      • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                        Another reason to give Bell a chance is Samisoni is back soon

                                        I hope he's improved his throwing if he does get a go. His throwing was hideous during super rugby.

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                                        KiwiMurph
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                                        #1383

                                        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                        Another reason to give Bell a chance is Samisoni is back soon

                                        I hope he's improved his throwing if he does get a go. His throwing was hideous during super rugby.

                                        You would hope specialist throwing coach Corey Flynn would be helping there....

                                        From memory vs Fiji Bell's throwing looked much better.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                          Another reason to give Bell a chance is Samisoni is back soon

                                          I hope he's improved his throwing if he does get a go. His throwing was hideous during super rugby.

                                          You would hope specialist throwing coach Corey Flynn would be helping there....

                                          From memory vs Fiji Bell's throwing looked much better.

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                          Another reason to give Bell a chance is Samisoni is back soon

                                          I hope he's improved his throwing if he does get a go. His throwing was hideous during super rugby.

                                          You would hope specialist throwing coach Corey Flynn would be helping there....

                                          From memory vs Fiji Bell's throwing looked much better.

                                          Ha ha ha, you’re fucking kidding me right, the definition of can’t do, so teach, is the AB throwing coach?

                                          Jobs for the bros.

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