All Blacks vs Wallabies I

Canes4life

@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

Where the hell do we go from here?

I think we need to swap out DMac at 10 and give Beaudy a run there.

Jordan was hopeless at 15 today so wouldn’t mind him shifting back to 14, with Clarke / Ioane on the left.

Jordie and Ioane haven’t been up to scratch in the centres so I’d be happy if that ALB / Proctor combo gets another run together.

I think our tight five is the best we have, don’t really know what to do there and for the loosies I liked what I saw from Sititi today, is it time for him to get a crack at 8 with Ardie not being up to it either.

Wouldn’t mind seeing something along the lines of this 23 for the first Aus test to give some guys a reminder that their spot in the AB 15 isn’t a given.

Williams

Taylor

Lomax

Barrett

Va’ai

Blackadder

Cane

Sititi

Ratima

Barrett

Clarke

ALB

Proctor

Jordan

Love

Aumua

Tu’ungafasi

Newell

Darry

Savea

Perenara

DMac

JBarrett

I’m not comfortable with Barrett at 10 but that pales into insignificance next to Blackadder waltzing back in at blindside.

I forgot about Plummer, would be happy to see him get a run now that we are facing minnows for the next couple of games. I just hope Razor isn't reluctant to throw young guys into the fray after consecutive losses because it's exactly what we need. South Africa aren't scared of giving a 20-year-old runs in the hot seat, Razor needs to be a bit more ballsy with his selections IMO.

Going back to Plummer, it would be nice have someone that's a little more measured running the ship. The ABs looked like headless chooks out there today and I can't see it improving with DMac at the helm with his helter skelter style.

Canes4life

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

@Canes4life Beauden at 10? Fuck off. I'm not even reading the rest. Beauden in the 23 at all is a waste of everybody's time.

I'm not even reading the rest.

I completely forgot about Plummer so he gets the 10 jersey for me. I only put Beaudy in there because I thought we had no one else.

DMac can sit in the naughty chair after missing a shot right in front. Inexcusable.

stodders

@Canes4life remember when NZ fans were aggrieved at Colin Slade and Cruden getting game time. Oh to have either of them available now

Nepia

@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

Where the hell do we go from here?

Sydney for a roughly 30 point win I'd say.

Then Wellington for 40+

You're pretty confident for someone that just shipped 60 vs Argy...

I first saw this and thought 'haha good banter'

Now it stings

Is it really that good banter? The bloody Boks win two RC's a decade and this is what we have to put up with.

Also, if we clean sweep the Wobs and the Boks clean sweep the Argies then we'll finish second.

Frank

My starting 15 for the Wallabies

15 Love (more solid option than Jordan)
14 Reiko
13 Proctor (time for a real centre)
12 Jordie or ALB
11 Clarke (two fast power wingers)
10 DMac (Plummer to see significant minutes if game is safe)
9 Ratima
8 Savea
7 Cane / Papalii
6 Sititi (the future)
5 Barrett
4 Vaii
3 Lomax
2 Taylor
1 Williams

nostrildamus

@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

I’m not comfortable with Barrett at 10 but that pales into insignificance next to Blackadder waltzing back in at blindside.

Waltzing? Really? Those ballroom floors are hard and slippery. Agree with you on 10 as well.

BerniesCorner

@Frank said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

My starting 15 for the Wallabies

15 Love (more solid option than Jordan)
14 Reiko
13 Proctor (time for a real centre)
12 Jordie or ALB
11 Clarke (two fast power wingers)
10 DMac (Plummer to see significant minutes if game is safe)
9 Ratima
8 Savea
7 Cane / Papalii
6 Sititi (the future)
5 Barrett
4 Vaii
3 Lomax
2 Taylor
1 Williams

Nailed it Frank much better team

nostrildamus

Frank's team, give Sititi a go at 8 and bench Ardie.
It is prob heresy to the Cantabs but SB is not peak Barrett. Nor really pulling his weight as captain, can't even control TJP's gob!

KiwiMurph

Plummer will get dropped from the squad with Perofeta returning

I hate it but it's true

Duluth

@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

Sydney for a roughly 30 point win I'd say.

Then Wellington for 40+

Yeah I think we are about 20-30 points better than the Wallabies

However I thought there's a similar gap between us the Argentinians.. This AB side is profoundly stupid and can really fuck up winning positions or get into trouble against sides they shouldn't

I expect two big victories but wouldn't surprised if we have our clown shoes on again

MN5

@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

Sydney for a roughly 30 point win I'd say.

Then Wellington for 40+

Yeah I think we are about 20-30 points better than the Wallabies

However I thought there's a similar gap between us the Argentinians.. This AB side is profoundly stupid and can really fuck up winning positions or get into trouble against sides they shouldn't

I expect two big victories but wouldn't surprised if we have our clown shoes on again

It definitely helps that the wallabies are an absolutely appalling team at the moment

MN5

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

I’m not comfortable with Barrett at 10 but that pales into insignificance next to Blackadder waltzing back in at blindside.

Waltzing? Really? Those ballroom floors are hard and slippery. Agree with you on 10 as well.

With his history treading carefully is preferable to waltzing

SBW1

@Nepia Is there anyway SA get knocked off top spot in the RNC, what happens if the Pumas have a win?

Machpants

@SBW1 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

@Nepia Is there anyway SA get knocked off top spot in the RNC, what happens if the Pumas have a win?

Argentina win twice they should take it, otherwise it is the Boks

Kirwan

We all agree that if we lose against this Wallabies side Razor should be sacked?

Machpants

@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

We all agree that if we lose against this Wallabies side Razor should be sacked?

Lose the Bled yes. Drop one with Oz playing a blinder then he has to blitz EOY otherwise cya later gater

Not that it will happen

KiwiMurph

Good news in the short term (I.e. trying to win this game) is the atmosphere out at Homebush is unlikely to be problematic

Wallabies have a woeful record at Homebush
Any goodwill the Wallabies have built up just got erased with their largest ever defeat overnight
Swans are playing a home preliminary/semi final the same weekend
A large portion of the crowd that bother to go will be AB fans

Not that a shit Bledisloe crowd in Sydney is great news for NZ rugby in the medium to long term

Hooroo

@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

We all agree that if we lose against this Wallabies side Razor should be sacked?

What will happen is we will fucking crush them and it will all be falsely roses

SBW1

@Kirwan Now the equation is drop one against the Wallabies and he deserves the sack, especially after the Wallabies last showing. Abs probably learned a lot from their last two outings against the Boks, they were in both of those games, hardly a complete debarcle.

canefan

@Hooroo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

We all agree that if we lose against this Wallabies side Razor should be sacked?

What will happen is we will fucking crush them and it will all be falsely roses

If we front against Aussie like we did last night against SA we should win well

The Silver Fern

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