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All Blacks vs Wallabies I

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  • B brodean

    Ofa had an excellent season in the scrum for the Blues and I don't believe he was bested this year at test level either.

    Tosi gained parity with Ofa in the Blues v Hurricanes game so I think he's a pretty strong scrummager. Strong enough under the current laws which mean less scrum resets.

    Tosi could be a real weapon for us off the bench. He's probably the best close in tight five carrier in the squad and he can help set a platform for the others. He's also a good lifter and a good mauler.

    It could be a real boost for us having someone of Williams size and Tosi's size for the duration of 80 minutes.

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    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

    Ofa had an excellent season in the scrum for the Blues and I don't believe he was bested this year at test level either.

    Tosi gained parity with Ofa in the Blues v Hurricanes game so I think he's a pretty strong scrummager. Strong enough under the current laws which mean less scrum resets.

    Tosi could be a real weapon for us off the bench. He's probably the best close in tight five carrier in the squad and he can help set a platform for the others. He's also a good lifter and a good mauler.

    It could be a real boost for us having someone of Williams size and Tosi's size for the duration of 80 minutes.

    Don't forget he's still developing in that area aswell. He was playing 8 a few years ago and he's come a long way already so he could be a real weapon for the ABs if he can start dominating at scrum time.

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    • No QuarterN No Quarter

      @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

      @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

      One bench approach would be to go with a halfback like Fakatava, combined with Williams, Tosi, Aumua and whatever other close ball runners we have. Just go a very direct narrow game.

      That is Why Hotham is there as he runs close in around the ruck quite often.

      I'd really like to see them develop our halfbacks against the Wallabies. E.G. Ratima starting with Hotham on the bench. TJP is leaving, there is no value in continuing to give him gametime at this stage given he's no Aaron Smith.

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      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

      @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

      @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

      One bench approach would be to go with a halfback like Fakatava, combined with Williams, Tosi, Aumua and whatever other close ball runners we have. Just go a very direct narrow game.

      That is Why Hotham is there as he runs close in around the ruck quite often.

      I'd really like to see them develop our halfbacks against the Wallabies. E.G. Ratima starting with Hotham on the bench. TJP is leaving, there is no value in continuing to give him gametime at this stage given he's no Aaron Smith.

      Yeah I agree maybe we see that happen this game.

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      • No QuarterN No Quarter

        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

        @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

        One bench approach would be to go with a halfback like Fakatava, combined with Williams, Tosi, Aumua and whatever other close ball runners we have. Just go a very direct narrow game.

        That is Why Hotham is there as he runs close in around the ruck quite often.

        I'd really like to see them develop our halfbacks against the Wallabies. E.G. Ratima starting with Hotham on the bench. TJP is leaving, there is no value in continuing to give him gametime at this stage given he's no Aaron Smith.

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        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

        @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

        One bench approach would be to go with a halfback like Fakatava, combined with Williams, Tosi, Aumua and whatever other close ball runners we have. Just go a very direct narrow game.

        That is Why Hotham is there as he runs close in around the ruck quite often.

        I'd really like to see them develop our halfbacks against the Wallabies. E.G. Ratima starting with Hotham on the bench. TJP is leaving, there is no value in continuing to give him gametime at this stage given he's no Aaron Smith.

        Personally thought TJP was given every chance to show leadership and calmness in his game when asked to close out in South Africa, he didn't. If there was ever a time to send a message (whether short or longer term) , the coaching team could replace him based on that for Australia and not have any blow back.

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        • B brodean

          I'd like to see Tosi come on to the bench for the Wallabies too.

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          @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

          I'd like to see Tosi come on to the bench for the Wallabies too.

          His ball running on the weekend was impressive, even accounting for it being two levels below.

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          • R reprobate

            One bench approach would be to go with a halfback like Fakatava, combined with Williams, Tosi, Aumua and whatever other close ball runners we have. Just go a very direct narrow game.

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            @reprobate

            I don't mind if it's Fakatava or Hotham against the Wallabies but there is zero point in continuing with TJ at this stage as others have mentioned.

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              Justin Marshall mentioned on a podcast that we should try Blackadder at 6, Savea at 7 with Sititi at 8 against the Wallabies. I'm not totally against it.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                Justin Marshall mentioned on a podcast that we should try Blackadder at 6, Savea at 7 with Sititi at 8 against the Wallabies. I'm not totally against it.

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                @Canes4life whos the 6 though?

                I would love to see it but two things that jump out are i think its pretty clear the coaches dont see savea as a 7 option...but also sititi did well at 6 i think....room to improve but good....so better to keep developing there?

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  @Canes4life whos the 6 though?

                  I would love to see it but two things that jump out are i think its pretty clear the coaches dont see savea as a 7 option...but also sititi did well at 6 i think....room to improve but good....so better to keep developing there?

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                  @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                  @Canes4life whos the 6 though?

                  I would love to see it but two things that jump out are i think its pretty clear the coaches dont see savea as a 7 option...but also sititi did well at 6 i think....room to improve but good....so better to keep developing there?

                  Marshall would still keep Blackadder at 6.

                  I think we can get away with that loose trio against the Wallabies but not sure if it would work against a bigger pack.

                  https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_0AYj-BXA-/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    Justin Marshall mentioned on a podcast that we should try Blackadder at 6, Savea at 7 with Sititi at 8 against the Wallabies. I'm not totally against it.

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                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                    Justin Marshall mentioned on a podcast that we should try Blackadder at 6, Savea at 7 with Sititi at 8 against the Wallabies. I'm not totally against it.

                    Probably would make more sense to play Sititi at 7.

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                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                      Justin Marshall mentioned on a podcast that we should try Blackadder at 6, Savea at 7 with Sititi at 8 against the Wallabies. I'm not totally against it.

                      Probably would make more sense to play Sititi at 7.

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                      @pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                      Justin Marshall mentioned on a podcast that we should try Blackadder at 6, Savea at 7 with Sititi at 8 against the Wallabies. I'm not totally against it.

                      Probably would make more sense to play Sititi at 7.

                      why? has he played there? Seems unfair to me to keep moving a young player around.

                      Edit: oh, maybe that was just sarcasm. Ok.

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                        Ardie isn’t much off a stopper around the fringes anymore. More a scragger!

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                          Unfortunately I have an aversion to anything that comes out of Justin Marshall's mouth.

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                            Heard some chat that Hotham is in the 23

                            Which would explain why he wasn't released for Ta$man

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              Heard some chat that Hotham is in the 23

                              Which would explain why he wasn't released for Ta$man

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                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                              Heard some chat that Hotham is in the 23

                              Which would explain why he wasn't released for Ta$man

                              At this point, it is probably more worthwhile to give him a run off the bench rather than TJP who is not playing well and is leaving

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                                not a bad saturday. ABs in to Lions on to NRL semi. Little bit of overlap though which is a shitter.

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                                  not a bad saturday. ABs in to Lions on to NRL semi. Little bit of overlap though which is a shitter.

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                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

                                  not a bad saturday. ABs in to Lions on to NRL semi. Little bit of overlap though which is a shitter.

                                  I'm going to the Bled.

                                  3:45pm kick-off so I guess the game will be done by 6pm.

                                  Occurred to me that this works fairly well with a train back from Homebush to Allianz for the 7:50pm kick-off there.

                                  Would probably have an hour to kill in the pub next door in between.

                                  Tempting!

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                                    now THAT is a solid plan

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      not a bad saturday. ABs in to Lions on to NRL semi. Little bit of overlap though which is a shitter.

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                                      @mariner4life Lions are before the ABs.

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                                        i thought the Bled was mid-arvo?

                                        Lions are twilight?

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          i thought the Bled was mid-arvo?

                                          Lions are twilight?

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                                          @mariner4life Wellington Lions are before Bleds

                                          Brisbane Lions are after Bleds

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