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Black Ferns V England

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    England love having props playing in the loose forwards in both the men's and women's game.

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      Katelyn Vahaakolo got another.

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        24-12 to England with 5 minutes to go.

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          Black Ferns have been got out by a lack of fitness in the forwards and some terrible passing at Half Back.

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            Like the All Blacks, the Black Ferns exit work is terrible.

            NZR need to find a specialist kick and chase coach to work with their national teams.

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              One minute to go.

              Black Ferns have fought okay.

              But it is amazing to see the NZ national side so bad at elements at the game which are basic building blocks of rugby in the NH: clean passes from 9, kicking for touch, chasing kicks.

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                All over. England win.

                The Black Ferns have work to do ahead of next year's World Cup Final at the same venue.

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                  Who is this shit main commentator and is it in her contract to say "big tackles by England" twice a minute?

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                  @Bones said in Black Ferns V England:

                  Who is this shit main commentator and is it in her contract to say "big tackles by England" twice a minute?

                  She was terrible.

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                    @Bones said in Black Ferns V England:

                    Who is this shit main commentator and is it in her contract to say "big tackles by England" twice a minute?

                    She was terrible.

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                    @sparky said in Black Ferns V England:

                    @Bones said in Black Ferns V England:

                    Who is this shit main commentator and is it in her contract to say "big tackles by England" twice a minute?

                    She was terrible.

                    Fucking atrocious, sounded like she was commentating for 5 year olds, alongside the fucking pitch side interviewer who kept going on about it being a friendly.

                    Shithouse by BBC.

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                      NZ punished for not converting early chances

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        One minute to go.

                        Black Ferns have fought okay.

                        But it is amazing to see the NZ national side so bad at elements at the game which are basic building blocks of rugby in the NH: clean passes from 9, kicking for touch, chasing kicks.

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                        @sparky said in Black Ferns V England:

                        One minute to go.

                        Black Ferns have fought okay.

                        But it is amazing to see the NZ national side so bad at elements at the game which are basic building blocks of rugby in the NH: clean passes from 9, kicking for touch, chasing kicks.

                        Oh. These are Northern Hemisphere things?

                        I'd never heard of these concepts at all growing up playing and watching rugby in NZ in the 1970s.

                        Imagine how good we'd be if we followed Europe's lead on innovation ...

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          England lucky to get away with just a yellow card for a swing tackle right around the neck I thought.

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                          @Bones said in Black Ferns V England:

                          England lucky to get away with just a yellow card for a swing tackle right around the neck I thought.

                          I've just watched the replay of the game. Yes, the reverse angle shows that a PT was justified as there was no covering defenders.

                          Despite the loss, there were some encouraging signs. The BFs needed to capitalise on those early chances and hold passes when line breaks were made (Brunt and Bremner, for example). They did manage to get the ball wide to beat the rush defence. Unlike England, they hadn't played for a while.

                          We got the BBC comms so the volume went down.

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                            @Bones said in Black Ferns V England:

                            England lucky to get away with just a yellow card for a swing tackle right around the neck I thought.

                            I've just watched the replay of the game. Yes, the reverse angle shows that a PT was justified as there was no covering defenders.

                            Despite the loss, there were some encouraging signs. The BFs needed to capitalise on those early chances and hold passes when line breaks were made (Brunt and Bremner, for example). They did manage to get the ball wide to beat the rush defence. Unlike England, they hadn't played for a while.

                            We got the BBC comms so the volume went down.

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                            @Bovidae the amount of "second man play" passes that just went anywhere but the player they were supposed to hit was ridiculous.

                            Also an extraordinary amount of second passes that just went straight through the receivers hands.

                            So yeah, tidy even half of that up and they'd be a lot more in the game.

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                              @sparky said in Black Ferns V England:

                              One minute to go.

                              Black Ferns have fought okay.

                              But it is amazing to see the NZ national side so bad at elements at the game which are basic building blocks of rugby in the NH: clean passes from 9, kicking for touch, chasing kicks.

                              Oh. These are Northern Hemisphere things?

                              I'd never heard of these concepts at all growing up playing and watching rugby in NZ in the 1970s.

                              Imagine how good we'd be if we followed Europe's lead on innovation ...

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                              @booboo Watching the two national teams and Supersnore, they really don't seem to be part of the NZR coaching manual in the 2020s.

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                                @booboo Watching the two national teams and Supersnore, they really don't seem to be part of the NZR coaching manual in the 2020s.

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                                @sparky said in Black Ferns V England:

                                @booboo Watching the two national teams and Supersnore, they really don't seem to be part of the NZR coaching manual in the 2020s.

                                I suspect there's a difference between playing poorly and neglecting the basics.

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                                  Anyway, any word on crowd size?

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                                    Anyway, any word on crowd size?

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                                    @booboo said in Black Ferns V England:

                                    Anyway, any word on crowd size?

                                    41,523

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                                      @booboo said in Black Ferns V England:

                                      Anyway, any word on crowd size?

                                      41,523

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                                      @MiketheSnow said in Black Ferns V England:

                                      @booboo said in Black Ferns V England:

                                      Anyway, any word on crowd size?

                                      41,523

                                      Thank you Michael.

                                      Not a record? Or is it?

                                      What is current record?

                                      Is it still the Final at EP?

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                                        @MiketheSnow said in Black Ferns V England:

                                        @booboo said in Black Ferns V England:

                                        Anyway, any word on crowd size?

                                        41,523

                                        Thank you Michael.

                                        Not a record? Or is it?

                                        What is current record?

                                        Is it still the Final at EP?

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                                        @booboo said in Black Ferns V England:

                                        @MiketheSnow said in Black Ferns V England:

                                        @booboo said in Black Ferns V England:

                                        Anyway, any word on crowd size?

                                        41,523

                                        Thank you Michael.

                                        Not a record? Or is it?

                                        What is current record?

                                        Is it still the Final at EP?

                                        15-a-side
                                        58,498 at Twickenham for England v France in 2023

                                        7-a-side
                                        66,000 at Stade de France for Olympics Games Paris 2024

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                                          I’m actually encouraged by that performance. If anyone saw the hammering England handed out to them last year at Mt Smart, they could barely get any possession such was English dominance at the set pieces.

                                          This time round I thought they matched the English physicality and put big hits on in defence. More encouragingly was that, barring a few crap lineouts and one really crap scrum, our scrums and lineouts didn’t turn to shit like last year. They need that platform for the backs. I reckon the BFs can still run them off the park if they get a real roll-on and we saw glimpses of that on Saturday. Shit it was good seeing those fat English loose forwards being run around by our loosies.

                                          However, for all of that, the BFs couldn’t convert their chances and the English are still far superior in converting theirs.

                                          Demant at 12 is much better than Demant at 10 imo. The halves pairing (King-Joseph) were playing their 3rd & 4th tests respectively. Even though Joseph’s slow clearing gives me the shits at times we should probably give them more time to get experience. They’ll get better. They have potential. Joseph’s cross field kick to Leti-Iiga was a masterclass but her turnover for slow clearance was clearly not.

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