All Blacks vs Wallabies 2

MN5

@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@African-Monkey

Probably true in what they think but for me Papali'i is the best cleaner in the squad and the most accurate and reliable player for securing the breakdown.

Yeah but he can’t inadequately cover multiple positions like Blackadder and Jacobson

nostrildamus

@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

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@Frank said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Tosi is a monster, fuck he's good

Once he’s sorted out his scrummaging he’ll be a beast.

How shit is it?

Not shit but he’s only played prop for three years so his ceiling is high.

Was very effective following in from Tyrel in Superb Rugby.

In Superb Rugby huh? I bet that really impressed the NH scribes! I'm gonna use that term now just for their moral outrage!

nostrildamus

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@LatsToTheMax said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

You have lost the fucking plot. All we're suggesting is that this is an improvement on last week and you're comparing 4 years of Fozz-ball vs 7 tests of Ray Ray.

It'd be virtually fucking impossible NOT to improve on last weeks performance - probably the worst I've seen in the pro era.

But try reading what I wrote, And then tell me things have improved in the last 12 months.

Hyperbole. Given during Foster's regime we had the biggest test loss ever - last year - so yes it is possible to not improve and actually get worse.

How good are Australia now and esp against us given the Schmidt ex AB coach factor? Better than #10 I wager.
I personally think Australia should beat Italy and Japan (at least on neutral ground) but we will get a better idea on the tour of where we stand.

nostrildamus

@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Can anyone tell me what these nearly no look passes usually by a fatty when we are spinning the ball wide are all about.

Aumua was doing them well earlier in the championship so I assume a team strategy.

nostrildamus

My apologies to SB he was better than ok his defensive stats were huge, same as Savea. But Savea is playing (tackling) more like a 6 and Wallace is running like an 8

Cane seems to have trouble getting around fast enough.

I do wonder, if Scotty B is always buried in rucks and tackles that this might affect his ability to be captain effectively.

gt12

Thanks Sam, you were great, but 100 and out I’d say. Just not up with the play effectively enough and we need more than a full time cleaner at 7.

I think the rugby pod is correct and that Blackadder will get the 7 shirt next, but it will be interesting to see if they bring in Lakai.

I’d consider bringing along the young Waikato kid as an apprentice - although he might be a year away from that. He’ll be an AB though, I’m sure of it.

gt12

How good to have two bench props who can cover ground and get turnovers? Williams and Tosi should have locked in the bench spot - arguably Williams should be in line for the start.

brodean

@gt12

If there is one thing that is certain it's that Blackadder won't stay fit and Blackadder is just as slow as Cane. Blackadder is another player who consistently makes errors.

I'd rather see Papali'i or Savea at 7. I am so tired of selecting a 7 who is in and out of the game with injuries every year.

Lakai needs to improve his breakdown.

brodean

@gt12

I wouldn't be surprised if Tosi has won more turnovers than Blackadder has for the AB's despite the difference in game time.

pakman

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Loosies have been talked about to death. For me, Jacobson and Blackadder are placeholders and squad cover at best, time for one of them to make way for a big ball player.

They're really competing against each other IMO, for what it is worth I think LJ covers more positions to an ok level. But neither are gamebreakers.

LJ much more of an impact tackler.

pakman

@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

The ABs won, and probably would have won without those couple of lapses by the Wallabies, however I think this AB team is papering over cracks, and running out of glue.

Your scrum got slapped around by a guy on one leg. I think perhaps you're missing a big grunter with technical nous in your second row.

I thought - besides Sititi's tearing runs - your backrow got outplayed. Savea did a couple of nice things but you surely can't keep Cane on.

Your defensive lineout is good. Attacking lineout generally OK but if the 10th ranked team is picking you off, the top 6N sides are going to be licking their lips.

This helter-skelter bullshit in general play isn't going to cut it against top opponents with patience and cohesion. There aren't many guys in the starting 8 who are rolling up their sleeves and smashing blokes TBH. I don't think the ABs were dominant in contact as many times as the scoreline might otherwise suggest.

I think Razor needs to be a bit honest with himself and his coaching panel and get these blokes to knuckle down or fuck off.

EDG seemed far from his best. I wonder if his neck injury is still impeding him.

ploughboy

@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Loosies have been talked about to death. For me, Jacobson and Blackadder are placeholders and squad cover at best, time for one of them to make way for a big ball player.

They're really competing against each other IMO, for what it is worth I think LJ covers more positions to an ok level. But neither are gamebreakers.

LJ much more of an impact tackler.

lead dominate tackling with 3 for both side according to rugbypass

gt12

@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

Loosies have been talked about to death. For me, Jacobson and Blackadder are placeholders and squad cover at best, time for one of them to make way for a big ball player.

They're really competing against each other IMO, for what it is worth I think LJ covers more positions to an ok level. But neither are gamebreakers.

LJ much more of an impact tackler.

From memory he was one of the leaders in Super rugby.

I think his best spot at International level is at 7. He could be the option for the 7 shirt for the EOYT.

I don’t know what Paps has done but he’s clearly out in the cold.

Nepia

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

I don’t know what Paps has done

Tubby Ryan finally clicked he's from the Blues too ...

Crazy Horse

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

I don’t know what Paps has done

Tubby Ryan finally clicked he's from the Blues too ...

I find it quite difficult to get a guage on Paps because for some reason I have difficulty seeing him in games. It even happens when I make an effort to look out for him. He needs a big bushy beard or something so he stands out.

antipodean

@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

@kev said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

We look like we can score at will. But our D is soft and and scrum is ineffective.

Yeah what has happened to our scrum???

Poor refereeing. Tupou can't take a hit, folds like a bitch and as a result EdG overextends. Tupou should be penalised off the park for intentionally collapsing.