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NZ Sevens 2024-25

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  • M Machpants

    Levi 2nd try should be called back a penalty for jumping tacklers, but she is fast.

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    @Machpants said in NZ Sevens 2024-25:

    Levi 2nd try should be called back a penalty for jumping tacklers, but she is fast.

    I'd say there's considerable difference leaping over outstretched arms than leaping over someone's torso.

    For the same reason the game isn't yet dumb enough to penalise people doing acrobatics diving into the corner to score.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      Miller looked slow in the SF but found another gear in the final. Her strength is her fitness as she just keeps going. Perfect for an openside. I don't see Miller starting in the BFs but she could be useful off the bench.

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      @Bovidae said in NZ Sevens 2024-25:

      Miller looked slow in the SF but found another gear in the final. Her strength is her fitness as she just keeps going. Perfect for an openside. I don't see Miller starting in the BFs but she could be useful off the bench.

      Her lope isn't quick enough to run them in from distance if a winger chooses to chase her but is plenty quick enough from 30m or so with the odd fend thrown in. She could cause some havoc in 15s later in the game if she ranges a bit wider.

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        There is absolutely no way any sane coach is leaving her on the bench in 15s. She was one of the best players in the FPC when she was 17 or so playing openside before she got injured. Obviously she's only going to have improved 3-4 years on. There are simply very few women's players with that combo of agility/skill/strength. It would be like if Australia left Levi out of their 15s team.

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          Singapore is a 2-day event so that means there are four pools of three teams, so only two pool matches. Only the group winners progress to the semis.

          AB7s (Pool D) - USA and Fiji
          BF7s (Pool A) - China and Brazil

          The men have a difficult pool to win.

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            The formats and draws are getting uglier all the time...

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                  Results so far:

                  BF7s - beat China 38-0, beat Brazil 48-0. Will play France in the SF.
                  Confirmed as 2025 League Champions.

                  AB7s - beat USA 29-14.

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                    I didn't see the game, but the AB7s got thrashed 36-5 by Fiji. They play GB at 4:34 pm in a 5th place SF.

                    The BF7s SF is at 6:07 pm.

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                      Fuck the abs 7s are shit. How cama still had a job I don't know.

                      Oh yes I do, NZR are fucking pussies and not running a professional high performance sporting org, see foster getting two more years

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                      • M Machpants

                        Fuck the abs 7s are shit. How cama still had a job I don't know.

                        Oh yes I do, NZR are fucking pussies and not running a professional high performance sporting org, see foster getting two more years

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                        @Machpants for me Pathways is the major issue
                        We have already seen the likes of Carter,Tangitau and Fineangofo transition to Super Rugby and Moses Leo head to the NRL
                        You cant blame them based on money alone , i know for a fact Leo was only on a 50k contract , add in his Harbour which was around 25k its hardly gonna set you up for life

                        Taking away National 7s was just madness it was still a stepping stone from club 7s to provincial 7s and above
                        You have also got to look in other places i work with a national touch representive , they have some amazing playmakers and steppers in touch , many BF 7s have come from touch and many NRL playmakers from tag

                        The next step is to pay them carrier wage which keeps them in 7s programme ..
                        Argentina put a programme together which will see them dominate the 7s circuit with specialist players that totally understand how the game is played ,they have some wonderful athletes that now how to dominate in the air and breakdown and are totally comfortable with ball in hand.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          I didn't see the game, but the AB7s got thrashed 36-5 by Fiji. They play GB at 4:34 pm in a 5th place SF.

                          The BF7s SF is at 6:07 pm.

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                          @Bovidae said in NZ Sevens 2024-25:

                          I didn't see the game, but the AB7s got thrashed 36-5 by Fiji.

                          I saw it.

                          It was embarrassing seeing the difference between the two sides

                          AB 7s had plenty of ball but have next to no athletic ability to generate clean line breaks let alone tries

                          Fiji attack was able to just keep offloading until their superior athletic ability eventually told - time and time again

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            I didn't see the game, but the AB7s got thrashed 36-5 by Fiji. They play GB at 4:34 pm in a 5th place SF.

                            The BF7s SF is at 6:07 pm.

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                            @Bovidae said in NZ Sevens 2024-25:

                            I didn't see the game, but the AB7s got thrashed 36-5 by Fiji. They play GB at 4:34 pm in a 5th place SF.

                            The BF7s SF is at 6:07 pm.

                            We are in a deep hole at the moment. Hopefully it will trigger some serious rethinking about how we develop our 7s team

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                              Regarding the recent thrashing of the NZ men’s team by Fiji. …….They have to be kidding……
                              Seriously it’s just plain sad regarding the current state of NZ men’s sevens rugby. I watched the game and I’m shocked when I compare the hunger and dominance from previous NZ men’s sides. Surely there has to be a better coaching/player setup than this current administration. The men seem ponderous and clueless in attacking and their defence certainly looks ordinary, they constantly miss tackles and seem very disorganised. Where are the players like DJ Forbes who used to continually monster the breakdown ? We are continuously being outplayed by the other sides and it’s become downright embarrassing. Something needs to be done very soon, there has to be better options.

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                                Just watched the mens loss to GB. The inferior skills of our players are staggering as other teams get better.
                                Scratching my head at selections. Our best players have been Ng Shiu and Vaenuku. They don't start this one, so game is gone. Mathis was not used well in previous events. Cama is very disappointing in developing players.

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                                  Fucking hell the Kiwi Women’s team are excellent to watch (as are the Aussie women).. Absolute ripper try to Brake there.

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                                    I see Rob Rush started. WTF.

                                    Cama has no plan, and no idea on what his best starting 7 is.

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                                      Skills poor in loss to Ireland. Vaenuku was very impressive again. But Cody Vai is not improving, Maka and Rush brothers not much impact.
                                      Biggest thing for me is the lack of support runners and mistrust on defence of players alongside, plus shoddy kickoff and lineouts work.
                                      Knewstubb makes some good runs, but is just not active enough as a playmaker. MGB should be starting surely, but they really missing Rokolisoa.
                                      We need a new plan for the world cup and hopefully Roko and Mathis back.

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                                        The 7s obsession to not get the ball off the pitch and take a halftime lead is wild.

                                        Scrum on your own 10 and you win a free kick. Just kick it out and take the 12-0 halftime lead

                                        Instead BF7s try and run it out from their own line and concede a try

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                                          BF 7s far too much class though and win 31-7 to win the Singapore 7s

                                          Defensive masterclass

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