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All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham

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  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

    @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

    @MajorRage said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

    Easily the most subdued build up to an AB test since I've lived here (both stints).

    Barely any coverage, not much chat & little interest outside rugby circles.

    Does this play in our favour? Not convinced. I think England are happy that it's this way so they can focus the build up with a potential surprise in the mix.

    Rugby is dying on its arse in terms of mainstream media interest in the UK. The big sport stories yesterday were the sacking of Ten Hag and the awarding of the Ballon D'Or. I doubt many of the current England Rugby team would be recognised by more than 5% of British teenagers. It's minority sport.

    The first mention of Saturday's game is sport story number 28 on the BBC Sport website: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/c93q8g904ndo

    That said, I agree that all this plays into England's favour. Steve Borthwick's team have been preparing for this one for weeks. This will be a massive test for Scott Robertson's All Blacks.

    I rarely read MSM rugby coverage

    It's bloody rubbish

    Get far more insight from forums and YouTube

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    @MiketheSnow Will Greenwood is good. Gavin Muirs at the Daily Telegraph is okay. But yeah, beyond that you're going to learn much more these days from specialist Rugby content providers

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    • MN5M MN5

      @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

      I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

      The forced banter in the first couple of minutes was enough to make me switch off

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      @MN5 It didn't get better.

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

        Sititi our best loose forward this season

        Fern: « Bench him »

        I think Finau can make a late case if he can bring the hurt against the bigger teams.

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        @Canes4life said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

        @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

        Sititi our best loose forward this season

        Fern: « Bench him »

        I think Finau can make a late case if he can bring the hurt against the bigger teams.

        He put in a good hit against the Japan No 8 who is the same size as Earl.

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        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

          @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

          I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

          I know you have to pump your own car's tyres up but this show is beyond average

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          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

          @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

          I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

          I know you have to pump your own car's tyres up but this show is beyond average

          It’s a show which is tries to be high on style low on substance.

          It’s not a show for serious rugby analysis

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          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

            @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

            @MajorRage said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

            Easily the most subdued build up to an AB test since I've lived here (both stints).

            Barely any coverage, not much chat & little interest outside rugby circles.

            Does this play in our favour? Not convinced. I think England are happy that it's this way so they can focus the build up with a potential surprise in the mix.

            Rugby is dying on its arse in terms of mainstream media interest in the UK. The big sport stories yesterday were the sacking of Ten Hag and the awarding of the Ballon D'Or. I doubt many of the current England Rugby team would be recognised by more than 5% of British teenagers. It's minority sport.

            The first mention of Saturday's game is sport story number 28 on the BBC Sport website: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/c93q8g904ndo

            That said, I agree that all this plays into England's favour. Steve Borthwick's team have been preparing for this one for weeks. This will be a massive test for Scott Robertson's All Blacks.

            I rarely read MSM rugby coverage

            It's bloody rubbish

            Get far more insight from forums and YouTube

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            @MiketheSnow which forums do you get insight from …. 🙂

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              With some talk on here about how NZ deal with the blitz defence it will be interesting to see how England's defence goes. It was beginning to come together for Felix Jones but he has left and we now have Jo ElAbd who is promising to build on Jones' work. Let's hope for evolution rather than revolution. Having just gone through it once we don't have the time for the latter.

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                @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

                I know you have to pump your own car's tyres up but this show is beyond average

                It’s a show which is tries to be high on style low on substance.

                It’s not a show for serious rugby analysis

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                canefan
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                @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

                I know you have to pump your own car's tyres up but this show is beyond average

                It’s a show which is tries to be high on style low on substance.

                It’s not a show for serious rugby analysis

                For analysis, Aotearoa Rugby Pod is much better. I was just watching earlier, James Parsons in particular is quite insightful. He didn't think we played great vs Japan, wanted to see us be more direct

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                  @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                  But I guess the bench Vs England will be something like this:

                  Aumua, Williams, Tosi, Tuipolutu, Finau, Roigard, DMac, ALB.

                  I think your team and bench will be pretty close.

                  I'm inclined to think they might have pulled Reece early vs Japan because they plan to play him vs England.

                  Pretty certain the starting loose forwards will be Sititi, Cane and Savea - in fact, I'll be amazed if they're not. Other question marks....

                  Finau or Lakai?
                  Tosi or Newell?
                  Roigard or Perenara?

                  Lakai, though i would really worry about our physicality in the tackle when Cane gets subbed
                  Tosi, Newell doesn't offer much
                  God i hope it's Roigard even if he wasn't exactly amazing on Saturday.

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                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                  God i hope it's Roigard even if he wasn't exactly amazing on Saturday.

                  So do I. Ratima to start with Roigard on the bench to give him game time. Keep TJP as injury cover.

                  I also have a sneaking suspicion Ratima will be the 1st choice 9 by next year with Roigard pushing him all he way. Nice position to be in.

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    @MiketheSnow Will Greenwood is good. Gavin Muirs at the Daily Telegraph is okay. But yeah, beyond that you're going to learn much more these days from specialist Rugby content providers

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                    @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                    @MiketheSnow Will Greenwood is good. Gavin Muirs at the Daily Telegraph is okay. But yeah, beyond that you're going to learn much more these days from specialist Rugby content providers

                    Keo and Zels on SA Rugby Mag are the best.

                    They know all the players, even youth players coming through. They take an interest in the opposition.

                    I never get bored listening to them.

                    And they actually have some "takes", as opposed to the fence sitting we get served up in NZ.

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                    • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                      @MiketheSnow which forums do you get insight from …. 🙂

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                      @MajorRage said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                      @MiketheSnow which forums do you get insight from …. 🙂

                      The Polish ones

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                        @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                        I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

                        I know you have to pump your own car's tyres up but this show is beyond average

                        It’s a show which is tries to be high on style low on substance.

                        It’s not a show for serious rugby analysis

                        For analysis, Aotearoa Rugby Pod is much better. I was just watching earlier, James Parsons in particular is quite insightful. He didn't think we played great vs Japan, wanted to see us be more direct

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                        DaGrubster
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                        @canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                        @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                        @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                        I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

                        I know you have to pump your own car's tyres up but this show is beyond average

                        It’s a show which is tries to be high on style low on substance.

                        It’s not a show for serious rugby analysis

                        For analysis, Aotearoa Rugby Pod is much better. I was just watching earlier, James Parsons in particular is quite insightful. He didn't think we played great vs Japan, wanted to see us be more direct

                        Yeah, he is really good to listen. I agreed with him but the I wondered if they don’t want to play a more direct style to give England a game to analyse so close to playing them

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                        • D DaGrubster

                          @canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                          @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                          @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                          I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

                          I know you have to pump your own car's tyres up but this show is beyond average

                          It’s a show which is tries to be high on style low on substance.

                          It’s not a show for serious rugby analysis

                          For analysis, Aotearoa Rugby Pod is much better. I was just watching earlier, James Parsons in particular is quite insightful. He didn't think we played great vs Japan, wanted to see us be more direct

                          Yeah, he is really good to listen. I agreed with him but the I wondered if they don’t want to play a more direct style to give England a game to analyse so close to playing them

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                          DaGrubster
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                          @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                          @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                          @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                          I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

                          I know you have to pump your own car's tyres up but this show is beyond average

                          It’s a show which is tries to be high on style low on substance.

                          It’s not a show for serious rugby analysis

                          For analysis, Aotearoa Rugby Pod is much better. I was just watching earlier, James Parsons in particular is quite insightful. He didn't think we played great vs Japan, wanted to see us be more direct

                          Yeah, he is really good to listen. I agreed with him but the I wondered if they don’t want to play a more direct style or gameplan close to what we are trying to play against England, so we don’t give England a game to analyse

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            Tubby Barnes firing some early shots. I don't see the ABs beating the rush defence with BB at 1st 5.

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360467785/former-england-star-turned-scribe-takes-pot-shot-beauden-barrett-ahead-all-blacks

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                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                            Tubby Barnes firing some early shots. I don't see the ABs beating the rush defence with BB at 1st 5.

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360467785/former-england-star-turned-scribe-takes-pot-shot-beauden-barrett-ahead-all-blacks

                            Agree with pretty much all of what he said to be honest.

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                              England have named their team:

                              https://twitter.com/EnglandRugby/status/1851277893256503653

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                                Reckon we need to at least name Temu in the starting XV.

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                                • D DaGrubster

                                  @canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                  @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                  @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                  @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                  I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

                                  I know you have to pump your own car's tyres up but this show is beyond average

                                  It’s a show which is tries to be high on style low on substance.

                                  It’s not a show for serious rugby analysis

                                  For analysis, Aotearoa Rugby Pod is much better. I was just watching earlier, James Parsons in particular is quite insightful. He didn't think we played great vs Japan, wanted to see us be more direct

                                  Yeah, he is really good to listen. I agreed with him but the I wondered if they don’t want to play a more direct style to give England a game to analyse so close to playing them

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                                  canefan
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                                  @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                  @canefan said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                  @DaGrubster said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                  @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                  @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                  I don't think in this entire show the Breakdown team mentioned a single England player by name. Arrogance, ignorance or both?

                                  I know you have to pump your own car's tyres up but this show is beyond average

                                  It’s a show which is tries to be high on style low on substance.

                                  It’s not a show for serious rugby analysis

                                  For analysis, Aotearoa Rugby Pod is much better. I was just watching earlier, James Parsons in particular is quite insightful. He didn't think we played great vs Japan, wanted to see us be more direct

                                  Yeah, he is really good to listen. I agreed with him but the I wondered if they don’t want to play a more direct style to give England a game to analyse so close to playing them

                                  Keeping the powder dry?

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    England have named their team:

                                    https://twitter.com/EnglandRugby/status/1851277893256503653

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                                    @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                    England have named their team:

                                    I think they need a few more VCs.

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                                      A 6-2 split on the England bench in case you were wondering.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        Reckon we need to at least name Temu in the starting XV.

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                        Reckon we need to at least name Temu in the starting XV.

                                        were you offering that 40% off code again

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                          Reckon we need to at least name Temu in the starting XV.

                                          were you offering that 40% off code again

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                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                          Reckon we need to at least name Temu in the starting XV.

                                          were you offering that 40% off code again

                                          Only in the final quarter.

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