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All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham

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  • R Rangi

    10 is now our only real worry

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    @Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

    10 is now our only real worry

    And complacency.

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      Will England find a way to run away from or past Mark Telea?

      He's a great stepper, but his lack of top speed as been notable in other Tests this year.

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        EDG's absence is a disciplinary thing apparently.

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        • sparkyS sparky

          @Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

          10 is now our only real worry

          And complacency.

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          @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

          @Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

          10 is now our only real worry

          And complacency.

          True

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            God I hate the backline..

            Beauden at 10..why? He is going to kick most the ball away, and barely gets our attack going compared to Dmac.

            Last game against Aussie we looked decidedly average for the first 60 minutes he was leading. His passing is just quite poor. He shuffles and the rest of the backline pays the price.

            And he's 33...so what is this working towards?

            Jordie/Rieko continuing their tenure as guaranteed starting midfielders. No surprise the last 5 years we have struggled on attack coincides with when we decided to stick two midfielders who either can't pass or choose not to as our starting pair.

            Why are we obsessed with ATHLETES at centre? Conrad was our best center ever and all he did was spend the entire game trying to set up players outside him.

            Meh..

            At least our pack is trending towards World Class

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              Once you factored in who didn't play vs Japan and injuries - a very predictable 23 outside of no EDG.

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                Yeah, that should take care of England without too much stress.

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                  The two sides look very evenly matched to me.

                  Based on form this year and home advantage, England to win by less than 3, but if the All Blacks reduce their error rate they'll win.

                  https://twitter.com/TightFive_Rugby/status/1851953517105226199

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                    They can't be happy with DMac because BB is nothing more than a stopgap measure.
                    I like the bench. Proper impact if used correctly.
                    And thank God TJP isn't on the pine.

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      The two sides look very evenly matched to me.

                      Based on form this year and home advantage, England to win by less than 3, but if the All Blacks reduce their error rate they'll win.

                      https://twitter.com/TightFive_Rugby/status/1851953517105226199

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                      @sparky I highly doubt England have improved since they went down under, having not played. If Razor's team can't take care of them after a whole season of learnings, then that's a complete failure.

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                        @sparky I highly doubt England have improved since they went down under, having not played. If Razor's team can't take care of them after a whole season of learnings, then that's a complete failure.

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                        @Bones That was at the end of a very long season for England. They will be fresher now and have had a couple of weeks in camp to prepare.

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                        • sparkyS sparky

                          Talking points:

                          A 5-3 bench when England are going 6-2
                          No sign of De Groot
                          Vaii ahead of Patrick T
                          Sititi at 6 rather 8
                          Ratima at 9 ahead of Roigard
                          B. Barrett at 10 ahead of DMac
                          Will Jordan picked at 15 not 14.
                          No sign of Reece

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                          @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                          Talking points:

                          A 5-3 bench when England are going 6-2
                          No sign of De Groot
                          Vaii ahead of Patrick T
                          Sititi at 6 rather 8
                          Ratima at 9 ahead of Roigard
                          B. Barrett at 10 ahead of DMac
                          Will Jordan picked at 15 not 14.
                          No sign of Reece

                          Other than EDG being out - because there is a back story that is not public - the others are barely worth raising a breath.

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                            England to win by 6+

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                              NZ should be good for this. Probably 7 or less.

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                                Current forecast for the match is 14 degrees, a gentle breeze and a 4% chance of rain:

                                https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2635308

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @sparky I highly doubt England have improved since they went down under, having not played. If Razor's team can't take care of them after a whole season of learnings, then that's a complete failure.

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                                  @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                  @sparky I highly doubt England have improved since they went down under, having not played. If Razor's team can't take care of them after a whole season of learnings, then that's a complete failure.

                                  I have to agree Bones. They have also had some upheaval with Felix Jones leaving and his tactics were the main reason for England doing well in NZ.

                                  Playing at Twickenham is a factor but if we get beaten or beaten well, then it does make you wonder if we have improved. Especially as we have better personnel in this side for Saturday

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    @Bones That was at the end of a very long season for England. They will be fresher now and have had a couple of weeks in camp to prepare.

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                                    @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                    @Bones That was at the end of a very long season for England. They will be fresher now and have had a couple of weeks in camp to prepare.

                                    What was so long about their season? Fresher, schmesher. Sounding like you're prepping to jump on the razor bandwagon, getting your excuses in early...

                                    We should be vastly improved, they're playing their first game of the season, with a smidge of upheaval and an ordinary coach.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                        @Bones That was at the end of a very long season for England. They will be fresher now and have had a couple of weeks in camp to prepare.

                                        What was so long about their season? Fresher, schmesher. Sounding like you're prepping to jump on the razor bandwagon, getting your excuses in early...

                                        We should be vastly improved, they're playing their first game of the season, with a smidge of upheaval and an ordinary coach.

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                                        @Bones Robertson should be out-coaching Steve Borthwick that's for sure.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                          @Bones That was at the end of a very long season for England. They will be fresher now and have had a couple of weeks in camp to prepare.

                                          What was so long about their season? Fresher, schmesher. Sounding like you're prepping to jump on the razor bandwagon, getting your excuses in early...

                                          We should be vastly improved, they're playing their first game of the season, with a smidge of upheaval and an ordinary coach.

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                          @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                          @Bones That was at the end of a very long season for England. They will be fresher now and have had a couple of weeks in camp to prepare.

                                          What was so long about their season?

                                          Their season started in August 2023, World Cup Prep, World Cup, English domestic Rugby and European club Rugby, the Six Nations, then back to Domestic and European Rugby and then in July 2024 a tour of NZ to round it off. Very long season for England's players. And they came within a smidgin of winning both tests in New Zealand.

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