All Blacks vs Ireland
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1 De Groot
2 Taylor
3 Lomax
4 S. Barrett (c)
5. Vaii
6. Sititi
7. Lakai
8. Savea
9. Roigard
10. DMac
11. Caleb Clarke
12. Jordie Barrett
13. Proctor
14 Reiko Ioane
15. Will Jordan@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
1 De Groot
2 Taylor
3 Lomax
4 S. Barrett (c)
5. Vaii
6. Sititi
7. Lakai
8. Savea
9. Roigard
10. DMac
11. Caleb Clarke
12. Jordie Barrett
13. Proctor
14 Reiko Ioane
15. Will JordanBench people.
Who is your bench.
Rugby is played with XXIII* nowadays.
The bench provides impact, can change tactics.
That's why DMac was on the bench, not because BB is the "better player".
Picking the XV is only half the story.
Taylor would be in doubt so Aumua, Bell.
Props Groot, Williams (in spite of Ofa's work off the bench)
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Lomax, TosiVaa'i may be in doubt? I'd leave Patty T to smash it off the bench and go with Darry to start?
Loosies as per, including Finau, even allowing for footnote.
As for the backs, I'd be tempted to drop the 12 and bring in ALB. Leave Rieko at 13, but depends on his injury.
Telea at 14.
And I'd stick with starting Ratima, CR on bench with BB.
- XXII if you don't trust your looseforward reserve in a tight game st Twickers v England.
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sorry BB is not a starting 10. Not even the best 10 in the band at Super level.
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The only changes to the starting XV I expect are due to the concussions to Taylor and Barrett.
Can see Lakai getting a shot from the bench in place of Finau (though it's possible Blackadder is back). Otherwise, Bell and Perofeta joining the bench if Aumua and McKenzie start.
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Nic Berry (Australia)
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If you don’t pick your best 15 to start then it doesn’t matter who you bring on to finish the game will be done.
Ireland are not England.
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If you don’t pick your best 15 to start then it doesn’t matter who you bring on to finish the game will be done.
Ireland are not England.
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
If you don’t pick your best 15 to start then it doesn’t matter who you bring on to finish the game will be done.
Ireland are not England.
True, England beat Ireland at Twickenham earlier this year...
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1 De Groot
2 Taylor
3 Lomax
4 S. Barrett (c)
5. Vaii
6. Sititi
7. Lakai
8. Savea
9. Roigard
10. DMac
11. Caleb Clarke
12. Jordie Barrett
13. Proctor
14 Reiko Ioane
15. Will Jordan@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
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De Groot
2 Taylor
3 Lomax
4 S. Barrett (c)
5. Vaii
6. Sititi
7. Lakai
8. Savea
9. Roigard
10. DMac
11. Caleb Clarke
12. Jordie Barrett
13. Proctor
14 Reiko Ioane
15. Will JordanHearing that won't happen.
We'll see. -
Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?I think Cam gets them moving quicker and is more aggressive, be a shame for him to have less minutes.
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Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?No way.
Cam is just better.
A more confident player and leader.
Ratima can come in to speed the game up (although he was too slow clearing in this game) -
@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?I think Cam gets them moving quicker and is more aggressive, be a shame for him to have less minutes.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?I think Cam gets them moving quicker and is more aggressive, be a shame for him to have less minutes.
Or do we stop looking at this in terms of better players start? The second unit played very well to kill off the game. In fact I liked their pattern better than the first half team. Cam could come on at half time. DMac was very assured when he came on too, a real impact. Patty T too
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Leave Roigard on the bench as we need impact and he can bring it.
Ratima may not have been great v England but has played well all year
Poss look at bringing CR on with 30min to go rather than 20?I think Cam gets them moving quicker and is more aggressive, be a shame for him to have less minutes.
Or do we stop looking at this in terms of better players start? The second unit played very well to kill off the game. In fact I liked their pattern better than the first half team. Cam could come on at half time. DMac was very assured when he came on too, a real impact. Patty T too
@canefan Exactly
The bench is the 2nd wave that can also contain what Joe public think as the better players - they come on and change the pace and tempo.
They lift the guys around them and thats what we have been missing all year in that final 20min....finally looks like we may have got it right and people want to change again to having lesser players coming off the bench -
@canefan Exactly
The bench is the 2nd wave that can also contain what Joe public think as the better players - they come on and change the pace and tempo.
They lift the guys around them and thats what we have been missing all year in that final 20min....finally looks like we may have got it right and people want to change again to having lesser players coming off the bench@kidcalder I don't think that's the case at all. Pretty bizarre selecting a poor player to start, just so the guy that replaces him is better.
