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All Blacks v France

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  • S SBW1

    https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/11/10/analysis-how-the-all-blacks-could-counter-frances-golden-boy-dupont/

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    @SBW1 said in All Blacks v France:

    Antoine Dupont can nearly do it all on the pitch which is why the All Blacks, and potential opposite Cam Roigard, must have a plan.

    Chuck Connors might need a plan against Du Pont, but it's Roigard we're talking about here.

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      Who are the likely replacements to come into the squad for this game?

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        AJ Lam is already with the squad.

        Otherwise, potentially a loosie/lock or two to hold tackle bags. Oli Haig and Fabian Holland are options but it's really anyone's guess. Haig was left out of Sunday's All Blacks XV team which could be read one of two ways. Holland was benched and is similar.

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          Are we going DM back at 10 or is BB and CT making their way back via the bench?

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            Are we going DM back at 10 or is BB and CT making their way back via the bench?

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            @SBW1 said in All Blacks v France:

            Are we going DM back at 10 or is BB and CT making their way back via the bench?

            100% they start DMac Staggering if they don’t

            CT a possible starter.. But I hope used off the bench.

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              @SBW1 said in All Blacks v France:

              Are we going DM back at 10 or is BB and CT making their way back via the bench?

              100% they start DMac Staggering if they don’t

              CT a possible starter.. But I hope used off the bench.

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              @voodoo said in All Blacks v France:

              @SBW1 said in All Blacks v France:

              Are we going DM back at 10 or is BB and CT making their way back via the bench?

              100% they start DMac Staggering if they don’t

              CT a possible starter.. But I hope used off the bench.

              Aumua has had a massive workload recently and Taylor has consistently been one of the all blacks best. He goes back to starting. Increases the potency of the bench as well

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                @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France:

                @canefan said in All Blacks v France:

                @DaGrubster said in All Blacks v France:

                @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v France:

                @MN5
                Our forward pack is starting to look rather fearsome.👍
                How the heck did we make it to here.

                It was always going that way once we got a better props in De Groot and Lomax. The fact that we have real depth now at prop is a great foundation to build a pack on. With Sititi coming out of nowhere and Holland on the horizon, the AB pack can become outstanding over the next 12-18 months

                Add in Lakai for Cane and if he can make strides as fast as Wallace, we could be young and dynamic very quickly

                Yeah I'd have Lakai on the bench against France. He can cover 6,7,8 if needed as well. He could be the perfect bench player for us over the next few seasons until Ardie's form drops right off and he takes his place.

                A bench of forwards that include Aumua, Tu'ungafasi, Tosi, Tuipolotu and Lakai going forward is pretty damn impactful.

                And Proctor in the backs

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                @BerniesCorner
                Proctor is not in France but in NZ for the birth of his child.

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                  @voodoo said in All Blacks v France:

                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks v France:

                  Are we going DM back at 10 or is BB and CT making their way back via the bench?

                  100% they start DMac Staggering if they don’t

                  CT a possible starter.. But I hope used off the bench.

                  Aumua has had a massive workload recently and Taylor has consistently been one of the all blacks best. He goes back to starting. Increases the potency of the bench as well

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                  @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks v France:

                  @voodoo said in All Blacks v France:

                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks v France:

                  Are we going DM back at 10 or is BB and CT making their way back via the bench?

                  100% they start DMac Staggering if they don’t

                  CT a possible starter.. But I hope used off the bench.

                  Aumua has had a massive workload recently and Taylor has consistently been one of the all blacks best. He goes back to starting. Increases the potency of the bench as well

                  He hasn't had that heavy a workload - three Tests in three weeks and one was against Japan.

                  He's finally coming right with a string of long games so might as well give him the opportunity to keep building. Adding Taylor to the bench strengthens it too!

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                  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                    This one is for Sam Cane
                    I hope he runs out first

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                    Steven Harris
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                    #80

                    @BerniesCorner hearing Cane has been ruled out of Sundays game along with Mark Telea
                    Du Plessis Kirifi ,Fabien Holland & Chay Fihaki bought into the squad .
                    Hope this oil is wrong

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                      Wha'ts the status of EB and Dalts? Both still injured? And with the squad?

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                      • S Steven Harris

                        @BerniesCorner hearing Cane has been ruled out of Sundays game along with Mark Telea
                        Du Plessis Kirifi ,Fabien Holland & Chay Fihaki bought into the squad .
                        Hope this oil is wrong

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                        @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks v France:

                        @BerniesCorner hearing Cane has been ruled out of Sundays game along with Mark Telea
                        Du Plessis Kirifi ,Fabien Holland & Chay Fihaki bought into the squad .
                        Hope this oil is wrong

                        nah it's on another thread - insta confirmed by AB official post sorry. Good for Fabian

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          Wha'ts the status of EB and Dalts? Both still injured? And with the squad?

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                          @nzzp heard that Dalton is back in NZ , thats seriously weird

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                            Robertson saving his best team for Italy. Blackadder and Fihaki to be superstars.

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                              There is no point in DP or EB going to Europe. Lio-Willie is also in the squad as cover. The decision will be Savea or Lakai at 7?

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                Robertson saving his best team for Italy. Blackadder and Fihaki to be superstars.

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                                @Bones the Chay Fihaki selection beggers belief but i guess Razors sees something many of us cant see..
                                Personally i would rather they pushed Reiko out to wing and ALB into centre as opposed to pushing Fihaki onto the wing or better still AJ Lam
                                Of all Razors selections Fihaki and Bell grate me the most

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                                  @Bones the Chay Fihaki selection beggers belief but i guess Razors sees something many of us cant see..
                                  Personally i would rather they pushed Reiko out to wing and ALB into centre as opposed to pushing Fihaki onto the wing or better still AJ Lam
                                  Of all Razors selections Fihaki and Bell grate me the most

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                                  @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks v France:

                                  @Bones the Chay Fihaki selection beggers belief but i guess Razors sees something many of us cant see..
                                  Personally i would rather they pushed Reiko out to wing and ALB into centre as opposed to pushing Fihaki onto the wing or better still AJ Lam
                                  Of all Razors selections Fihaki and Bell grate me the most

                                  They will go for Reece no doubt. Like you, I don't know what they see in Fihaki. Naholo or Stevenson are better choices imo.

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                                    @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks v France:

                                    @Bones the Chay Fihaki selection beggers belief but i guess Razors sees something many of us cant see..
                                    Personally i would rather they pushed Reiko out to wing and ALB into centre as opposed to pushing Fihaki onto the wing or better still AJ Lam
                                    Of all Razors selections Fihaki and Bell grate me the most

                                    They will go for Reece no doubt. Like you, I don't know what they see in Fihaki. Naholo or Stevenson are better choices imo.

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                                    @akan004 forgot about Reece

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                                      @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks v France:

                                      @Bones the Chay Fihaki selection beggers belief but i guess Razors sees something many of us cant see..
                                      Personally i would rather they pushed Reiko out to wing and ALB into centre as opposed to pushing Fihaki onto the wing or better still AJ Lam
                                      Of all Razors selections Fihaki and Bell grate me the most

                                      They will go for Reece no doubt. Like you, I don't know what they see in Fihaki. Naholo or Stevenson are better choices imo.

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                                      @akan004 said in All Blacks v France:

                                      @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks v France:

                                      @Bones the Chay Fihaki selection beggers belief but i guess Razors sees something many of us cant see..
                                      Personally i would rather they pushed Reiko out to wing and ALB into centre as opposed to pushing Fihaki onto the wing or better still AJ Lam
                                      Of all Razors selections Fihaki and Bell grate me the most

                                      They will go for Reece no doubt. Like you, I don't know what they see in Fihaki. Naholo or Stevenson are better choices imo.

                                      Naholo is likely injured.

                                      Regardless, it's pretty unlikely any of the new guys called up will see any minutes - they're tackle bag holders.

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                                      • nzzpN nzzp

                                        Wha'ts the status of EB and Dalts? Both still injured? And with the squad?

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                                        @nzzp said in All Blacks v France:

                                        Wha'ts the status of EB and Dalts? Both still injured? And with the squad?

                                        The ABs kept DP on the same RTP rehab program for a cpl week's when hes felt he should've progressed quicker.
                                        Hasn't been getting much coms & been left in the dark. Razors basically ghosted him.
                                        He had a feeling a cpl week's ago he wouldn't be going over.

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                                        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                          Got a feeling France will be much tougher than Ireland,

                                          Hope we are well grounded, sleeves rolled up and not on too much of a high feeling good about ourselves after that win

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                                          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v France:

                                          Got a feeling France will be much tougher than Ireland,

                                          Hope we are well grounded, sleeves rolled up and not on too much of a high feeling good about ourselves after that win

                                          For me this is the test that I was a little concerned about before the tour started.

                                          I had a feeling we would lift for Ireland, there were positive signs of us targeting that one because the build up would be bigger with their home record and rivalry. .

                                          Having caught up on some of the recent NH media/commentary of the last few weeks, I’m a little surprised at how much they talk up Dupont. Very good player no doubt, but it has been a little OTT. There will be opportunities around the fringes with the way France attack to disrupt and unsettle him.

                                          But France will present challenges with their forward carry. It’s different to how the Boks set up but just as effective in my view. I think we need to start Cane (if he is fit) because the close exchanges will be where a lot of this game may be played.

                                          The biggest thing is trust in the bench. It’s been a work in progress. I’m hopeful that if Taylor and Barrett are back that we see continued improvement around timing and how to actually change the game. There’s been some good recent signs but I think it can get better.

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