All Blacks 2025

[Bovidae]

@Steven-Harris Jacobson is listed as 1.91 m and 107 kg. Seems about right to me. Cane is shorter.

[Steven Harris]

@Bovidae for me Jacobson has quite a wiry shape he is athletic which means he can play in all 3 positions and is extremley mobile but i dont see him as an out and out impact player , Blackadder very similar ..
Gee i look at what the Wallabies can have got in terms of impact in the loose forwards off the bench and i have got to say it looks better than what we have

[MN5]

@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

@Bovidae for me Jacobson has quite a wiry shape he is athletic which means he can play in all 3 positions and is extremley mobile but i dont see him as an out and out impact player , Blackadder very similar ..
Gee i look at what the Wallabies can have got in terms of impact in the loose forwards off the bench and i have got to say it looks better than what we have

Jacobsen, Blackadder and Papalii are all much of a muchness in terms of size but none of them really consistently play like it.

Judging by this I'd put the average weight of the three of them at about 108.15kg.

I'd have a more accurate gauge if Nepo Laulala got out of the photo

[Bones]

@MN5 before or after a dump and a drink?

[Steven Harris]

@MN5 Nepo is 6ft , was standing beside him with a friend who was the same height ..so for me they all look much of a muchness
All around 6’2

[MN5]

@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

@MN5 Nepo is 6ft , was standing beside him with a friend who was the same height ..so for me they all look much of a muchness
All around 6’2

Na they’d all be closer to 6 3 than 6 2.

I’d need Ardie Savea standing nearby to confirm this though

[Steven Harris]

@MN5 one thing it does confirm we are pretty small compared to other international teams nothing new but the modern game is about gain line and physicality .
Just out interest how tall is Ardie ?

[MN5]

@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

@MN5 one thing it does confirm we are pretty small compared to other international teams nothing new but the modern game is about gain line and physicality .

Yeah and there's massive question marks on all three of those guys in terms of that.

Ardie is exactly 74.25 inches tall. They're all about 75 inches.

[Steven Harris]

@MN5 i just hate the fact we pick bit part players on the bench who cover for the sake of covering all 3 positions as opposed to an out specialists in his position that adds serious impact

[ploughboy]

@Steven-Harris ardie to the bench?

[nostrildamus]

@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

@MN5 one thing it does confirm we are pretty small compared to other international teams nothing new but the modern game is about gain line and physicality .
Just out interest how tall is Ardie ?

He looked a little shorter than Sititi in one photo I saw, not 1.9 metres anyway, might be the incline .. but his height seems to be ah mysterious.
https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--pKyNpAaz--/c_crop,h_1836,w_2938,x_565,y_105/c_scale,h_1836,w_2938/c_scale,f_auto,q_auto,w_1050/v1730151097/4KJHT4U_20240921145166076360_original_jpg?_a=BACCd2AD

Edit: Oh god, this is funny: https://moanapasifika.co.nz/player/ardie-savea/

[Bones]

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

@MN5 one thing it does confirm we are pretty small compared to other international teams nothing new but the modern game is about gain line and physicality .
Just out interest how tall is Ardie ?

He looked a little shorter than Sititi in one photo I saw, not 1.9 metres anyway, might be the inclice .. but his height seems to be ah mysterious.
https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--pKyNpAaz--/c_crop,h_1836,w_2938,x_565,y_105/c_scale,h_1836,w_2938/c_scale,f_auto,q_auto,w_1050/v1730151097/4KJHT4U_20240921145166076360_original_jpg?_a=BACCd2AD

Edit: Oh god, this is funny: https://moanapasifika.co.nz/player/ardie-savea/

Getting in nice and early for when he leaves MP for the Eastbourne U85s.

[canefan]

@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

@Bovidae for me Jacobson has quite a wiry shape he is athletic which means he can play in all 3 positions and is extremley mobile but i dont see him as an out and out impact player , Blackadder very similar ..
Gee i look at what the Wallabies can have got in terms of impact in the loose forwards off the bench and i have got to say it looks better than what we have

Jacobsen, Blackadder and Papalii are all much of a muchness in terms of size but none of them really consistently play like it.

Judging by this I'd put the average weight of the three of them at about 108.15kg.

I'd have a more accurate gauge if Nepo Laulala got out of the photo

That photo reminds me how much we are going to miss Wallace this test season

[Mr Fish]

@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

@Bovidae for me Jacobson has quite a wiry shape he is athletic which means he can play in all 3 positions and is extremley mobile but i dont see him as an out and out impact player , Blackadder very similar ..
Gee i look at what the Wallabies can have got in terms of impact in the loose forwards off the bench and i have got to say it looks better than what we have

Jacobsen, Blackadder and Papalii are all much of a muchness in terms of size but none of them really consistently play like it.

Judging by this I'd put the average weight of the three of them at about 108.15kg.

I'd have a more accurate gauge if Nepo Laulala got out of the photo

That photo reminds me how much we are going to miss Wallace this test season

Sounds like he's going to be available for the Chiefs with a few weeks to play in the season so he should be right for the All Blacks.

[KiwiMurph]

@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

@MN5 i just hate the fact we pick bit part players on the bench who cover for the sake of covering all 3 positions as opposed to an out specialists in his position that adds serious impact

Exactly this

I would like to some fresh blood like Kirifi and Lio Willie brought in.

Jacobson gets test after test on the bench and adds no impact.

Towards the end of last season the likes of Tosi and Tuipulotu started adding real impact off the bench - the movement needs to continue with the loosie spot and utility back spot.

[MN5]

@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

@Bovidae for me Jacobson has quite a wiry shape he is athletic which means he can play in all 3 positions and is extremley mobile but i dont see him as an out and out impact player , Blackadder very similar ..
Gee i look at what the Wallabies can have got in terms of impact in the loose forwards off the bench and i have got to say it looks better than what we have

Jacobsen, Blackadder and Papalii are all much of a muchness in terms of size but none of them really consistently play like it.

Judging by this I'd put the average weight of the three of them at about 108.15kg.

I'd have a more accurate gauge if Nepo Laulala got out of the photo

That photo reminds me how much we are going to miss Wallace this test season

I reckon.

How many scoops of vanilla can a team tolerate ?

[MN5]

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

@MN5 one thing it does confirm we are pretty small compared to other international teams nothing new but the modern game is about gain line and physicality .
Just out interest how tall is Ardie ?

He looked a little shorter than Sititi in one photo I saw, not 1.9 metres anyway, might be the inclice .. but his height seems to be ah mysterious.
https://media.rnztools.nz/rnz/image/upload/s--pKyNpAaz--/c_crop,h_1836,w_2938,x_565,y_105/c_scale,h_1836,w_2938/c_scale,f_auto,q_auto,w_1050/v1730151097/4KJHT4U_20240921145166076360_original_jpg?_a=BACCd2AD

Edit: Oh god, this is funny: https://moanapasifika.co.nz/player/ardie-savea/

He must have had a haircut and jumped on the scales after a month of diarrhea

[canefan]

@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

@Bovidae for me Jacobson has quite a wiry shape he is athletic which means he can play in all 3 positions and is extremley mobile but i dont see him as an out and out impact player , Blackadder very similar ..
Gee i look at what the Wallabies can have got in terms of impact in the loose forwards off the bench and i have got to say it looks better than what we have

Jacobsen, Blackadder and Papalii are all much of a muchness in terms of size but none of them really consistently play like it.

Judging by this I'd put the average weight of the three of them at about 108.15kg.

I'd have a more accurate gauge if Nepo Laulala got out of the photo

That photo reminds me how much we are going to miss Wallace this test season

I reckon.

How many scoops of vanilla can a team tolerate ?

We show no imagination in our bench selections. All of these guys, ALB, DH, they are not impact players. The saffas are so much more in tune with the impact concept, which is depressing

[Steven Harris]

@canefan Rassie gets it the French are now doing it

[Tim]

Any of the Moana Pasifika players in with a chance of selection this year?