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All Blacks 2025

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  • C Chuck72

    @brodean why does that matter? Razor has never coached him so don't see any connection

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    @Chuck72 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean why does that matter? Razor has never coached him so don't see any connection

    There's been a bunch of Crusaders selections that have been a bit on the nose so it won't be surprising.

    If he's selected over any of the other three of Roe, Fakatava or Funaki he is being selected as a bolter based on potential.

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      So we need halfbacks 4&5.

      Highlanders: Fakatava, Lennox, Arscott and Hastie.

      Only Fakatava is a viable option.

      Crusaders: Drummond and Preston.

      Would be a massive shout to bring Preston in there.

      Hurricanes: Viljoen.

      No show.

      Chiefs: Roe.

      Outside chance.

      Blues: Funaki, Nock and Christie.

      Christie the best option.

      Out of that lot, Fakatava and Christie have to be favoured. With Roe and Preston as outside chances.

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        At this point, with Roigard and Hotham down for the Pumas tests, at least one of the injury covers needs international experience, so Christie is a non brainer.
        The Argie gig is not a development tour.

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          Christie was pulled out due to a shoulder injury.

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            With Christie, we've experienced his experience and it's a no from me.

            Folly is a dog returning to its own vomit or the All Blacks coaching team continually picking players whose skills clearly aren't up to international standard.

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              Sounds like some of these injuries is more precautionary than anything.

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              • S SouthernMann

                So we need halfbacks 4&5.

                Highlanders: Fakatava, Lennox, Arscott and Hastie.

                Only Fakatava is a viable option.

                Crusaders: Drummond and Preston.

                Would be a massive shout to bring Preston in there.

                Hurricanes: Viljoen.

                No show.

                Chiefs: Roe.

                Outside chance.

                Blues: Funaki, Nock and Christie.

                Christie the best option.

                Out of that lot, Fakatava and Christie have to be favoured. With Roe and Preston as outside chances.

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                @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                So we need halfbacks 4&5.

                Highlanders: Fakatava, Lennox, Arscott and Hastie.

                Only Fakatava is a viable option.

                Crusaders: Drummond and Preston.

                Would be a massive shout to bring Preston in there.

                Hurricanes: Viljoen.

                No show.

                Chiefs: Roe.

                Outside chance.

                Blues: Funaki, Nock and Christie.

                Christie the best option.

                Out of that lot, Fakatava and Christie have to be favoured. With Roe and Preston as outside chances.

                Fakatava and Roe.

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                    Viljoen might have been a goer now if he’d not been bizarrely overlooked for Enari consistently for some reason during Super Rugby. I rate him, probably higher than Roe.

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                      Viljoen might have been a goer now if he’d not been bizarrely overlooked for Enari consistently for some reason during Super Rugby. I rate him, probably higher than Roe.

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                      @zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Viljoen might have been a goer now if he’d not been bizarrely overlooked for Enari consistently for some reason during Super Rugby. I rate him, probably higher than Roe.

                      You think so? I think he's a bloody good 9 at NPC level, still needs to sharpen his pass. Never really saw him as a high level halfback.

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                        Was really impressed last year when he deputised when Roigard was out but maybe it’s just me

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                        • sparkyS sparky

                          With Christie, we've experienced his experience and it's a no from me.

                          Folly is a dog returning to its own vomit or the All Blacks coaching team continually picking players whose skills clearly aren't up to international standard.

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                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                          With Christie, we've experienced his experience and it's a no from me.

                          Folly is a dog returning to its own vomit or the All Blacks coaching team continually picking players whose skills clearly aren't up to international standard.

                          If were World Cup year then considering Christie might be an option

                          But we're not, so pick Fakatava. Roe or Funaki

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                          • S SouthernMann

                            So we need halfbacks 4&5.

                            Highlanders: Fakatava, Lennox, Arscott and Hastie.

                            Only Fakatava is a viable option.

                            Crusaders: Drummond and Preston.

                            Would be a massive shout to bring Preston in there.

                            Hurricanes: Viljoen.

                            No show.

                            Chiefs: Roe.

                            Outside chance.

                            Blues: Funaki, Nock and Christie.

                            Christie the best option.

                            Out of that lot, Fakatava and Christie have to be favoured. With Roe and Preston as outside chances.

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                            @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                            So we need halfbacks 4&5.

                            Highlanders: Fakatava, Lennox, Arscott and Hastie.

                            Only Fakatava is a viable option.

                            Crusaders: Drummond and Preston.

                            Would be a massive shout to bring Preston in there.

                            Hurricanes: Viljoen.

                            No show.

                            Chiefs: Roe.

                            Outside chance.

                            Blues: Funaki, Nock and Christie.

                            Christie the best option.

                            Out of that lot, Fakatava and Christie have to be favoured. With Roe and Preston as outside chances.

                            I'm going the opposite to you.

                            Roe and Preston. Fakatava for Preston maybe.

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                              Viljoen might have been a goer now if he’d not been bizarrely overlooked for Enari consistently for some reason during Super Rugby. I rate him, probably higher than Roe.

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                              @zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Viljoen might have been a goer now if he’d not been bizarrely overlooked for Enari consistently for some reason during Super Rugby. I rate him, probably higher than Roe.

                              Not picking Viljoen yet. But agree his absence was bizarre.

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                                The Eden Park record makes me want experience. There will be two injury covers, so FC and Funaki or Fakatava.

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                                  @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  So we need halfbacks 4&5.

                                  Highlanders: Fakatava, Lennox, Arscott and Hastie.

                                  Only Fakatava is a viable option.

                                  Crusaders: Drummond and Preston.

                                  Would be a massive shout to bring Preston in there.

                                  Hurricanes: Viljoen.

                                  No show.

                                  Chiefs: Roe.

                                  Outside chance.

                                  Blues: Funaki, Nock and Christie.

                                  Christie the best option.

                                  Out of that lot, Fakatava and Christie have to be favoured. With Roe and Preston as outside chances.

                                  I'm going the opposite to you.

                                  Roe and Preston. Fakatava for Preston maybe.

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                                  @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  So we need halfbacks 4&5.

                                  Highlanders: Fakatava, Lennox, Arscott and Hastie.

                                  Only Fakatava is a viable option.

                                  Crusaders: Drummond and Preston.

                                  Would be a massive shout to bring Preston in there.

                                  Hurricanes: Viljoen.

                                  No show.

                                  Chiefs: Roe.

                                  Outside chance.

                                  Blues: Funaki, Nock and Christie.

                                  Christie the best option.

                                  Out of that lot, Fakatava and Christie have to be favoured. With Roe and Preston as outside chances.

                                  I'm going the opposite to you.

                                  Roe and Preston. Fakatava for Preston maybe.

                                  I just don't see two debutants coming in. Especially as 4th/5th ranked in the position. If they are bringing in guys for a game or two. Best to be lads who have previously been involved in the system.

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                                    The Eden Park record makes me want experience. There will be two injury covers, so FC and Funaki or Fakatava.

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                                    @pakman Telea also has a tonne of experience at Eden Park.

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                                      Okay, what I think the AB squad will be (not what I'd like to it be):

                                      Props: Williams, De Groot, Norris, Newell, Tosi, Dyer
                                      Hookers: Taylor, Taukei'aho, Aumua
                                      Locks: S Barrett, Vaii, Holland, Tuipolutu, Darry
                                      Back row: Finau, Kirifi, Blackadder, Sititi, Lakai, Savea, Lio-Willie
                                      Half Backs: Ratima, Christie, Fakatava
                                      First Fives: B Barrett, DMac
                                      Midfield: Jodie Barrett, Tavatavanawai, Tupaea, Proctor
                                      Back Three: R Ioane, Reece, Narawa, Jordan, Love

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                                        Okay, what I think the AB squad will be (not what I'd like to it be):

                                        Props: Williams, De Groot, Norris, Newell, Tosi, Dyer
                                        Hookers: Taylor, Taukei'aho, Aumua
                                        Locks: S Barrett, Vaii, Holland, Tuipolutu, Darry
                                        Back row: Finau, Kirifi, Blackadder, Sititi, Lakai, Savea, Lio-Willie
                                        Half Backs: Ratima, Christie, Fakatava
                                        First Fives: B Barrett, DMac
                                        Midfield: Jodie Barrett, Tavatavanawai, Tupaea, Proctor
                                        Back Three: R Ioane, Reece, Narawa, Jordan, Love

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                                        Mr Fish
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                                        @sparky think it will be a squad of 37. Would be surprised if ALB misses out.

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                                          I'd be surprised if Darry is selected with less than 40 mins of rugby behind him.

                                          Sititi might not be ready for the Arg trip so Parker is a good chance based on the rumours. Like the squad for the French series, there will be extras included as injury replacements.

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