All Blacks 2025
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I'm not getting fucking fooled into pointless optimism again. I'm resigned to losing the Eden Park record to the most cunty obnoxious management and fans on the planet.
And I don't mean Hurricanes or Irish.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
I'm not getting fucking fooled into pointless optimism again. I'm resigned to losing the Eden Park record to the most cunty obnoxious management and fans on the planet.
And I don't mean Hurricanes or Irish.
Majestic post. A drive by on 3 sets of fans in one go.
Superlative.
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I'm not getting fucking fooled into pointless optimism again. I'm resigned to losing the Eden Park record to the most cunty obnoxious management and fans on the planet.
And I don't mean Hurricanes or Irish.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
I'm not getting fucking fooled into pointless optimism again. I'm resigned to losing the Eden Park record to the most cunty obnoxious management and fans on the planet.
And I don't mean Hurricanes or Irish.
I didn’t realise there was some matches against England coming up. I really must pay more attention
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@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
@Victor-Meldrew it's like the work you saw Aaron Smith doing off the park on his pass, are others doing this with thier kicking, throwing, passing, catching etc.
Just cos you in the ABs dont mean you dont do your own work too.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
When he debuted for the Canes Nonu was raw powerful and exciting but he tended to make fundamental errors that were exposed when he first played for the All Blacks. Over time he polished those edges and also added a decent kicking game and a very good passing game, two things that he never had at the start. Combined with his brutal physicality Nonu was a complete midfielder for the second half of his all black career. He also had a durability that is evident to this day as he still continues to play professionally
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
The biggest and best change was around 08, his attitude.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
The biggest and best change was around 08, his attitude.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
The biggest and best change was around 08, his attitude.
I remember the turnaround. Nothing spectacular just solid progress. We went from cringing when he came on a replacement to breathing a sigh of relief when he did.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
The biggest and best change was around 08, his attitude.
I remember the turnaround. Nothing spectacular just solid progress. We went from cringing when he came on a replacement to breathing a sigh of relief when he did.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
The biggest and best change was around 08, his attitude.
I remember the turnaround. Nothing spectacular just solid progress. We went from cringing when he came on a replacement to breathing a sigh of relief when he did.
For a while he seemed to act a little too cool, which rubbed some up the wrong way. But once he nailed down he was a killer. Still remember him stepping out of John Smit's grasp in his 100th test and smashing Giteau out of the 2015 final
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@junior said in All Blacks 2025:
@Unite said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.
I really hate comments like that - it's as if he thinks goal-kicking doesn't count. And comments like that really grate given we lost a World Cup final two years ago because we couldn't kick our goals.
What is undeniable is that, despite all our lamentations about the ABs, the Pumas only just got up.
BB kicks one conversion and Pumas late penalty correctly called as going outside left hand post and it was 26 - 22 when we get that last penalty.
ABs could easily have won that match, and without the mystery Vaa’i yellow almost certainly would have.
In other words the gloom and doom has been heavily overdone, which is JP’s point I think.
@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
@junior said in All Blacks 2025:
@Unite said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.
I really hate comments like that - it's as if he thinks goal-kicking doesn't count. And comments like that really grate given we lost a World Cup final two years ago because we couldn't kick our goals.
What is undeniable is that, despite all our lamentations about the ABs, the Pumas only just got up.
BB kicks one conversion and Pumas late penalty correctly called as going outside left hand post and it was 26 - 22 when we get that last penalty.
ABs could easily have won that match, and without the mystery Vaa’i yellow almost certainly would have.
In other words the gloom and doom has been heavily overdone, which is JP’s point I think.
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Argentina are always tough at home. But we were so fundamentally poor it was disgraceful. We could very well turn it around for the Boks. That in itself will be an indictment on the coaching group as it would suggest they took them lightly and failed to adequately prepare the team for Argie 2
Jesus wept.
Doom and gloom is overdone because we were close?
Argentina are always tough at home?Argentina had literally never beaten us at home before.
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
@junior said in All Blacks 2025:
@Unite said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.
I really hate comments like that - it's as if he thinks goal-kicking doesn't count. And comments like that really grate given we lost a World Cup final two years ago because we couldn't kick our goals.
What is undeniable is that, despite all our lamentations about the ABs, the Pumas only just got up.
BB kicks one conversion and Pumas late penalty correctly called as going outside left hand post and it was 26 - 22 when we get that last penalty.
ABs could easily have won that match, and without the mystery Vaa’i yellow almost certainly would have.
In other words the gloom and doom has been heavily overdone, which is JP’s point I think.
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Argentina are always tough at home. But we were so fundamentally poor it was disgraceful. We could very well turn it around for the Boks. That in itself will be an indictment on the coaching group as it would suggest they took them lightly and failed to adequately prepare the team for Argie 2
Jesus wept.
Doom and gloom is overdone because we were close?
Argentina are always tough at home?Argentina had literally never beaten us at home before.
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
@junior said in All Blacks 2025:
@Unite said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.
I really hate comments like that - it's as if he thinks goal-kicking doesn't count. And comments like that really grate given we lost a World Cup final two years ago because we couldn't kick our goals.
What is undeniable is that, despite all our lamentations about the ABs, the Pumas only just got up.
BB kicks one conversion and Pumas late penalty correctly called as going outside left hand post and it was 26 - 22 when we get that last penalty.
ABs could easily have won that match, and without the mystery Vaa’i yellow almost certainly would have.
In other words the gloom and doom has been heavily overdone, which is JP’s point I think.
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Argentina are always tough at home. But we were so fundamentally poor it was disgraceful. We could very well turn it around for the Boks. That in itself will be an indictment on the coaching group as it would suggest they took them lightly and failed to adequately prepare the team for Argie 2
Jesus wept.
Doom and gloom is overdone because we were close?
Argentina are always tough at home?Argentina had literally never beaten us at home before.
They have come close before. I don't think it was unrealistic to say they are generally tough at home. And I didn't say anywhere that the doom and gloom was overdone
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Money in the bank.
He had off days. Outsanding generally, but there were days he struggled with the boot.
I remember a game against the Bokke where he missed a lot ... even the best have off days.
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Money in the bank.
He had off days. Outsanding generally, but there were days he struggled with the boot.
I remember a game against the Bokke where he missed a lot ... even the best have off days.
Yeah I was watching highlights of a test from that golden era where he played well in general play but missed at least 3 goal kicks. One was pretty standard too.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.The worst AB coach since Wayne Smith. And who is Razor's advisor? Wayne Smith. All starting to make sense now.
Really?
Who was the best coach since Wayne Smith?
Who was the second best coach since Wayne Smith?
Who was their advisor?
It wasn't Wayne Smith was it?
My comment was tongue in cheek
Can't really overstate how good Wayne Smith has been for NZR. That said, there is something in the fact both Smith and Razor have struggled to go straight from Super to test level.Ha - lucky I didn't really savage you.
I have trouble differentiating between tongue in cheek and total madness on the internet these days!
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
I have trouble differentiating between tongue in cheek and total madness on the internet these days!
easy cheatsheet for you:
What I say: tongue in cheek.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
@Unite said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.
Either Jordie or Richie kick a penalty and we win the RWC2023. It matters. We don't value it.
It's why Carter was under rated if anything. Money in the bank.
Go and grab a beer, take a piss. 3 points in the bag by the time you come back.
I understand what you are hinting at here, but he really wasn't.
One of the very best things about his career is that everyone pretty much knew right away that he was a generational player and potentially the best ever. I consider myself incredibly lucky to have watched him and McCaw for so long.
Carter was never underrated. If anything Nonu was far more than him.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Carter was never underrated. If anything Nonu was far more than him.
Do you mean
Carter was never underrated. If anything, Nonu was, far more than him.
Girlfriend in a comma. I know, I know, it's serious.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
When he debuted for the Canes Nonu was raw powerful and exciting but he tended to make fundamental errors that were exposed when he first played for the All Blacks. Over time he polished those edges and also added a decent kicking game and a very good passing game, two things that he never had at the start. Combined with his brutal physicality Nonu was a complete midfielder for the second half of his all black career. He also had a durability that is evident to this day as he still continues to play professionally
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
When he debuted for the Canes Nonu was raw powerful and exciting but he tended to make fundamental errors that were exposed when he first played for the All Blacks. Over time he polished those edges and also added a decent kicking game and a very good passing game, two things that he never had at the start. Combined with his brutal physicality Nonu was a complete midfielder for the second half of his all black career. He also had a durability that is evident to this day as he still continues to play professionally
It's that vegetarian diet!
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Carter was never underrated. If anything Nonu was far more than him.
Do you mean
Carter was never underrated. If anything, Nonu was, far more than him.
Girlfriend in a comma. I know, I know, it's serious.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Carter was never underrated. If anything Nonu was far more than him.
Do you mean
Carter was never underrated. If anything, Nonu was, far more than him.
Girlfriend in a comma. I know, I know, it's serious.
https://tenor.com/en-NZ/view/confused-black-guy-what-akward-gif-26811297
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Carter was never underrated. If anything Nonu was far more than him.
Do you mean
Carter was never underrated. If anything, Nonu was, far more than him.
Girlfriend in a comma. I know, I know, it's serious.
https://tenor.com/en-NZ/view/confused-black-guy-what-akward-gif-26811297
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Girlfriend in a coma. I know, I know, it's serious.
...is a very famous Smiths song.
While your sentence seemed to be missing some commas.
Thought you'd get the reference. -
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Girlfriend in a coma. I know, I know, it's serious.
...is a very famous Smiths song.
While your sentence seemed to be missing some commas.
Thought you'd get the reference.@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Girlfriend in a coma. I know, I know, it's serious.
...is a very famous Smiths song.
While your sentence seemed to be missing some commas.
Thought you'd get the reference.Ugh, you've made the sentence unreadable now.
