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All Blacks 2025

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    what's awesome is that this guarantees Beauden Barrett the 10 jersey for 3 years

    wait, awesome isn't the word i am looking for

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

    what's awesome is that this guarantees Beauden Barrett the 10 jersey for 3 years

    I can't like this post...

    wait, awesome isn't the word i am looking for

    ... even with the backhanded insult.

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    • R Rangi

      @taniwharugby This is just getting embarrassing.
      Can he please now concentrate on being a bloody coach.

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      @Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks 2025:

      @taniwharugby This is just getting embarrassing.
      Can he please now concentrate on being a bloody coach.

      Hang on, crucification time is a few months too early.

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      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

        @Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks 2025:

        @taniwharugby This is just getting embarrassing.
        Can he please now concentrate on being a bloody coach.

        Hang on, crucification time is a few months too early.

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        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks 2025:

        @taniwharugby This is just getting embarrassing.
        Can he please now concentrate on being a bloody coach.

        Hang on, crucification time is a few months too early.

        Razor blew much of his goodwill last season

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          Best performance of last year was against Ireland. Maybe focus on that 23.

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          • TimT Tim

            Best performance of last year was against Ireland. Maybe focus on that 23.

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            @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

            Best performance of last year was against Ireland. Maybe focus on that 23.

            Or just give guys in form an opportunity. There's an idea.

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              #535

              At least we get to save a bit of money with Mounga deciding not to come back to NZ
              IMO D’Mac is good enough to do the job at 10 he should never have been benched for the French test I thought his temperament in the Irish test was superb he and nailed the kicks that got us across the line
              BB is a superb back up and Perofeta can also play first five
              I also believe Josh Jacomb has some real ability as does Harry Godfrey who can play 10
              The later 2 have some X factor

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                Best performance of last year was against Ireland. Maybe focus on that 23.

                Or just give guys in form an opportunity. There's an idea.

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                booboo
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                #536

                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                Best performance of last year was against Ireland. Maybe focus on that 23.

                Or just give guys in form an opportunity. There's an idea.

                Can I just jump into the debate on the 13 jersey?

                If the incumbent wasn't doing exactly what the coach wanted him to do he'd be out on his arse. "Form" is our feels about how well a player is playing. "Form" may not suit the pattern, tactics, strategy.

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                • boobooB booboo

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Best performance of last year was against Ireland. Maybe focus on that 23.

                  Or just give guys in form an opportunity. There's an idea.

                  Can I just jump into the debate on the 13 jersey?

                  If the incumbent wasn't doing exactly what the coach wanted him to do he'd be out on his arse. "Form" is our feels about how well a player is playing. "Form" may not suit the pattern, tactics, strategy.

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                  #537

                  @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Best performance of last year was against Ireland. Maybe focus on that 23.

                  Or just give guys in form an opportunity. There's an idea.

                  Can I just jump into the debate on the 13 jersey?

                  If the incumbent wasn't doing exactly what the coach wanted him to do he'd be out on his arse. "Form" is our feels about how well a player is playing. "Form" may not suit the pattern, tactics, strategy.

                  True, Beauden is a shoo in. Can't wait for the return of Blackadder too...

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                  • boobooB booboo

                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Best performance of last year was against Ireland. Maybe focus on that 23.

                    Or just give guys in form an opportunity. There's an idea.

                    Can I just jump into the debate on the 13 jersey?

                    If the incumbent wasn't doing exactly what the coach wanted him to do he'd be out on his arse. "Form" is our feels about how well a player is playing. "Form" may not suit the pattern, tactics, strategy.

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                    Canes4life
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                    #538

                    @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Best performance of last year was against Ireland. Maybe focus on that 23.

                    Or just give guys in form an opportunity. There's an idea.

                    Can I just jump into the debate on the 13 jersey?

                    If the incumbent wasn't doing exactly what the coach wanted him to do he'd be out on his arse. "Form" is our feels about how well a player is playing. "Form" may not suit the pattern, tactics, strategy.

                    I'm not just talking about the 13 jersey, Ioane was actually pretty decent at the end of last year, I'm just meaning guys that are favoured like Reece, Blackadder and Beaudy who seem to get selected no matter their form.

                    The pattern, tactics and strategy you are speaking of clearly didn't work that well last year so maybe giving other players a go off the back of a strong Super campaign might actually work, instead of shoe horning guys in based on past experience.

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                    • boobooB booboo

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Best performance of last year was against Ireland. Maybe focus on that 23.

                      Or just give guys in form an opportunity. There's an idea.

                      Can I just jump into the debate on the 13 jersey?

                      If the incumbent wasn't doing exactly what the coach wanted him to do he'd be out on his arse. "Form" is our feels about how well a player is playing. "Form" may not suit the pattern, tactics, strategy.

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                      @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Best performance of last year was against Ireland. Maybe focus on that 23.

                      Or just give guys in form an opportunity. There's an idea.

                      Can I just jump into the debate on the 13 jersey?

                      If the incumbent wasn't doing exactly what the coach wanted him to do he'd be out on his arse. "Form" is our feels about how well a player is playing. "Form" may not suit the pattern, tactics, strategy.

                      I want to see a change in tactics that make better use of our centres. If Jordie can go over to the HN and play the house down, we may have identified the problem our midfield is having. Same issue is asking our fastest player to simply smash the ball up in close and everyone's complaining that he's "not distributing".

                      I also stashed some sickbags from my last flight for when Ethan invariably gets selected for the first Test.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Best performance of last year was against Ireland. Maybe focus on that 23.

                        Or just give guys in form an opportunity. There's an idea.

                        Can I just jump into the debate on the 13 jersey?

                        If the incumbent wasn't doing exactly what the coach wanted him to do he'd be out on his arse. "Form" is our feels about how well a player is playing. "Form" may not suit the pattern, tactics, strategy.

                        True, Beauden is a shoo in. Can't wait for the return of Blackadder too...

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                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Best performance of last year was against Ireland. Maybe focus on that 23.

                        Or just give guys in form an opportunity. There's an idea.

                        Can I just jump into the debate on the 13 jersey?

                        If the incumbent wasn't doing exactly what the coach wanted him to do he'd be out on his arse. "Form" is our feels about how well a player is playing. "Form" may not suit the pattern, tactics, strategy.

                        True, Beauden is a shoo in. Can't wait for the return of Blackadder too...

                        Damn right. I for one was thoroughly sick at how dominant and effective Sititi was last year.

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                          Who needs dominance when you have a 'man possessed'

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Best performance of last year was against Ireland. Maybe focus on that 23.

                            Or just give guys in form an opportunity. There's an idea.

                            Can I just jump into the debate on the 13 jersey?

                            If the incumbent wasn't doing exactly what the coach wanted him to do he'd be out on his arse. "Form" is our feels about how well a player is playing. "Form" may not suit the pattern, tactics, strategy.

                            I want to see a change in tactics that make better use of our centres. If Jordie can go over to the HN and play the house down, we may have identified the problem our midfield is having. Same issue is asking our fastest player to simply smash the ball up in close and everyone's complaining that he's "not distributing".

                            I also stashed some sickbags from my last flight for when Ethan invariably gets selected for the first Test.

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                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Best performance of last year was against Ireland. Maybe focus on that 23.

                            Or just give guys in form an opportunity. There's an idea.

                            Can I just jump into the debate on the 13 jersey?

                            If the incumbent wasn't doing exactly what the coach wanted him to do he'd be out on his arse. "Form" is our feels about how well a player is playing. "Form" may not suit the pattern, tactics, strategy.

                            I want to see a change in tactics that make better use of our centres. If Jordie can go over to the HN and play the house down, we may have identified the problem our midfield is having. Same issue is asking our fastest player to simply smash the ball up in close and everyone's complaining that he's "not distributing".

                            I also stashed some sickbags from my last flight for when Ethan invariably gets selected for the first Test.

                            100%

                            its a sad entitlement when suggesting changing the gameplan to suit the strengths of our best players is revolutionary

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                              I struggled with the tactics used at 10 and 13 last year. Wonder how much that is the players, v the match day tactics v the messages from the plethora of coaches in the AB camp. I really do suspect that the issue is the coordination of the messages from the instructors to a new set of players, at a different level, against stronger opponents.

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                              • ARHSA ARHS

                                I struggled with the tactics used at 10 and 13 last year. Wonder how much that is the players, v the match day tactics v the messages from the plethora of coaches in the AB camp. I really do suspect that the issue is the coordination of the messages from the instructors to a new set of players, at a different level, against stronger opponents.

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                                @ARHS said in All Blacks 2025:

                                I struggled with the tactics used at 10 and 13 last year. Wonder how much that is the players, v the match day tactics v the messages from the plethora of coaches in the AB camp. I really do suspect that the issue is the coordination of the messages from the instructors to a new set of players, at a different level, against stronger opponents.

                                Regarding the midfield, there was very little change from the previous regime to the new mob

                                The 13 runs a tight line on the shoulder of the 12. The 12 decides to bash up, pop a short ball or play it out the back. I think defences adjusted and the form & decision making of the 12 dipped

                                It's not utilising the extreme pace of the 13. I would like to see them stand further apart and use the blindside winger more on the shoulder

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  @ARHS said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  I struggled with the tactics used at 10 and 13 last year. Wonder how much that is the players, v the match day tactics v the messages from the plethora of coaches in the AB camp. I really do suspect that the issue is the coordination of the messages from the instructors to a new set of players, at a different level, against stronger opponents.

                                  Regarding the midfield, there was very little change from the previous regime to the new mob

                                  The 13 runs a tight line on the shoulder of the 12. The 12 decides to bash up, pop a short ball or play it out the back. I think defences adjusted and the form & decision making of the 12 dipped

                                  It's not utilising the extreme pace of the 13. I would like to see them stand further apart and use the blindside winger more on the shoulder

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                                  @Duluth it also seems really pedestrian, i know SBW was in a league of his own for getting his arms free for a pass in the tackle...but can you imagine if JB could do it just a little more and have RI receiving it past the tackle...in space

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                                  • S Steven Harris

                                    At least we get to save a bit of money with Mounga deciding not to come back to NZ
                                    IMO D’Mac is good enough to do the job at 10 he should never have been benched for the French test I thought his temperament in the Irish test was superb he and nailed the kicks that got us across the line
                                    BB is a superb back up and Perofeta can also play first five
                                    I also believe Josh Jacomb has some real ability as does Harry Godfrey who can play 10
                                    The later 2 have some X factor

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                                    SBW1
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                                    #546

                                    @Steven-Harris By the time Mounga does return he may not be a certainty for the pivot role. Article did say talks had stalled.

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                                      #547

                                      I don't think JB is a great distributor anyway. Despite the hype about his performances for Leinster when I watched their game against La Rochelle the backline moves often broke down when he had the ball (from fullback)

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                                      • S SBW1

                                        @Steven-Harris By the time Mounga does return he may not be a certainty for the pivot role. Article did say talks had stalled.

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                                        @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Article did say talks had stalled.

                                        That means money.

                                        RM would love to come back for the right $$$ I'm sure. But buying him out is expensive and NZR have no money.

                                        Right decision to not pay, but I am very disappointed at how long this has taken and how much of a distraction this has been in the media. Coaches should be publicly backing their players, not squeezing one out for an overseas player who didn't set the world on fire at Test level.

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          @ARHS said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          I struggled with the tactics used at 10 and 13 last year. Wonder how much that is the players, v the match day tactics v the messages from the plethora of coaches in the AB camp. I really do suspect that the issue is the coordination of the messages from the instructors to a new set of players, at a different level, against stronger opponents.

                                          Regarding the midfield, there was very little change from the previous regime to the new mob

                                          The 13 runs a tight line on the shoulder of the 12. The 12 decides to bash up, pop a short ball or play it out the back. I think defences adjusted and the form & decision making of the 12 dipped

                                          It's not utilising the extreme pace of the 13. I would like to see them stand further apart and use the blindside winger more on the shoulder

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                                          @Duluth add in some better running lines and our attack would improve considerably

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