All Blacks 2025
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
4 games in the rugby championship so far and we have conceded 112 points, that’s an average of 28 per game.
Is it time to have a serious conversation about a legit defense coach or can we put this down to Argentina and SA just being that much better and the game of rugby changing? It’s probably a bit of both but to be honest, I’ve never seen our defensive structure look so out of sorts. That and missed tackles. I won’t even touch on last night attitude…
To my knowledge, they have Tamati Ellison in charge of that role without actually specifically stating it. Either way, a conversation is needed.
Quick conversation.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
4 games in the rugby championship so far and we have conceded 112 points, that’s an average of 28 per game.
Is it time to have a serious conversation about a legit defense coach or can we put this down to Argentina and SA just being that much better and the game of rugby changing? It’s probably a bit of both but to be honest, I’ve never seen our defensive structure look so out of sorts. That and missed tackles. I won’t even touch on last night attitude…
To my knowledge, they have Tamati Ellison in charge of that role without actually specifically stating it. Either way, a conversation is needed.
Quick conversation.
After a performance like that, someone should be fired. A career ender if ever I saw one
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Those calling for Caleb Tangitau on the wing for the All Blacks should go watch the highlights of the Auckalnd VS Manawatu game.
At 7 minutes in he gets comprehensively beaten in the air for the high ball leading directly to a try. Other than that he plays well and is an attacking threat which means this weakness in his game will be overlooked when deciding who gets higher honours.
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Those calling for Caleb Tangitau on the wing for the All Blacks should go watch the highlights of the Auckalnd VS Manawatu game.
At 7 minutes in he gets comprehensively beaten in the air for the high ball leading directly to a try. Other than that he plays well and is an attacking threat which means this weakness in his game will be overlooked when deciding who gets higher honours.
@tubbyj said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Those calling for Caleb Tangitau on the wing for the All Blacks should go watch the highlights of the Auckalnd VS Manawatu game.
Gets comprehensively beaten in the air for the high ball leading directly to a try. Other than that he plays well and is an attacking threat which means this weakness in his game will be overlooked when deciding who gets higher honours.
There’s some big holes in his game without the ball. EOYT maybe.. but it would be a bad move to select him now
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
The Boks had a try ruled out due to that minor knock on at the back of the ruck so we got out of jail there.
Knock ons were NZ 9 v SA 17
It seemed like the vast majority of the SA knocks were in the first half
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
The Boks had a try ruled out due to that minor knock on at the back of the ruck so we got out of jail there.
Knock ons were NZ 9 v SA 17
It seemed like the vast majority of the SA knocks were in the first half
There were a few in the second half also when they pushed the attack at pace and some of the passes were behind the receiver.
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Ryan, at least, understands that improvement needs to happen fast. That's how he ended up in the role, and may be how he ends up out of it.
“I’ll take full responsibility for my area in the set piece. We pride ourselves on that and we weren’t up to standard.”
“That starts with us as coaches. For me, first and foremost, because I’m responsible.”
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
How hard is it to find backs who can compete under the high ball?
Clarke plays for the Blues so it gets complicated
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
How hard is it to find backs who can compete under the high ball?
Clarke plays for the Blues so it gets complicated
Hes the one we know. He should have started last night
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
Let's not go down the "Sack Foster - he's the root of all the problems in NZ rugby" road again. We all know how that worked out with Coach Jesus
Take a deep breath, stay calm, identify the problems & their causes and then devise and implement an improvement plan. Maybe some short-term actions - just make sure they aren't kicking cans down the road.
How to (unknowingly?) contradict yourself in two paragraphs.
It's abundantly clear that the root of all problems is the head coach and the moronic minions he's assembled.
They selected these players. Apparently they also developed a game plan and coached them.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
Let's not go down the "Sack Foster - he's the root of all the problems in NZ rugby" road again. We all know how that worked out with Coach Jesus
Take a deep breath, stay calm, identify the problems & their causes and then devise and implement an improvement plan. Maybe some short-term actions - just make sure they aren't kicking cans down the road.
How to (unknowingly?) contradict yourself in two paragraphs.
It's abundantly clear that the root of all problems is the head coach and the moronic minions he's assembled.
They selected these players. Apparently they also developed a game plan and coached them.
How to (unknowingly) completely miss the point. in three. paragraphs...?
Let's not repeat what didn't work last time. Fix causes not symptoms. . .Make sure they stay fixed.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
Let's not go down the "Sack Foster - he's the root of all the problems in NZ rugby" road again. We all know how that worked out with Coach Jesus
Take a deep breath, stay calm, identify the problems & their causes and then devise and implement an improvement plan. Maybe some short-term actions - just make sure they aren't kicking cans down the road.
How to (unknowingly?) contradict yourself in two paragraphs.
It's abundantly clear that the root of all problems is the head coach and the moronic minions he's assembled.
They selected these players. Apparently they also developed a game plan and coached them.
How to (unknowingly) completely miss the point. in three. paragraphs...?
Let's not repeat what didn't work last time. Fix causes not symptoms. . .Make sure they stay fixed.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
Let's not go down the "Sack Foster - he's the root of all the problems in NZ rugby" road again. We all know how that worked out with Coach Jesus
Take a deep breath, stay calm, identify the problems & their causes and then devise and implement an improvement plan. Maybe some short-term actions - just make sure they aren't kicking cans down the road.
How to (unknowingly?) contradict yourself in two paragraphs.
It's abundantly clear that the root of all problems is the head coach and the moronic minions he's assembled.
They selected these players. Apparently they also developed a game plan and coached them.
How to (unknowingly) completely miss the point. in three. paragraphs...?
Let's not repeat what didn't work last time. Fix causes not symptoms. . .Make sure they stay fixed.
Is that you Hansen?
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I’d love to see Cam Roigard or Tupou Vaa’i made captain - a statement of intent, ala Siya Kolisi being made the Boks captain in 2018, a look to the future rather than going back. It wouldn’t solve everything but it would reset things to an extent.
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I’d love to see Cam Roigard or Tupou Vaa’i made captain - a statement of intent, ala Siya Kolisi being made the Boks captain in 2018, a look to the future rather than going back. It wouldn’t solve everything but it would reset things to an extent.
New Captain
New First Five
New Coach
New Assistants
New BoardBut none of those things will happen.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
That final quarter under Robertson is the elephant in the room. So much for headspace.
Indicates that our depth is worse, which is what you would expect from a coach that won't select forwards from the Blues.
Very disappointing to see that kind of prehistoric, parochial bigotry endorsed by NZR.
I don't really buy our depth is that bad.
Our tactics, selection and use of players is abysmal.
Agreed. The players are there. If they weren’t, ABs wouldn’t be winning at all.
This has similarities with Boks in 2017. The same players under a different coach won WC2019.
Robertson needs to be accountable. It is his mess. He needs to be given the chance to fix it. Bledisloe coming up. No pressure. Then the home nations away in November. He needs to win them all now to salvage the year and the ABs need to consistently perform in doing so. Nothing less is acceptable now.
Mark Robinson is leaving soon. If Robertson fails, then the ABs need to bring in a new brains trust like Henry/Hansen/Smith. Jamie Joseph and throw whatever at Joe Schmidt (his country needs him) as technical advisor (given he probably doesn’t want the role full time for family reasons). Not sure who the best attack coach is in NZ, but I do know Ronan O’Gara could be tempted south with the right offer.
@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
Not sure who the best attack coach is in NZ, but I do know Ronan O’Gara could be tempted south with the right offer.
I wonder if O'Gara had a very important influence in the Crusaders, esp for the backs.
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We could have fielded a back three of Clarke - Jordie - Jordan and completely nullified their kicking game, but our coaches are too stupid
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Has Razor lost the dressing room?
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
Has Razor lost the dressing room?
Did he ever have it?
He owned the combing section.
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I’d love to see Cam Roigard or Tupou Vaa’i made captain - a statement of intent, ala Siya Kolisi being made the Boks captain in 2018, a look to the future rather than going back. It wouldn’t solve everything but it would reset things to an extent.
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Cam Roigard
Good suggestion.
Seems too introverted and always injured.
But does seem one that would drive very high standards.I mean.......could it get any worse.
