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Black Caps v Pakistan

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  • MN5M Online
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    It has encouraged guys to score more quickly at test level so there’s that. That’s a good thing in terms of far more results in that format.

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      I feel the same about ODIs and T20s. ODIs have become just as formulaic and the results feel like they lack importance

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        I feel the same about ODIs and T20s. ODIs have become just as formulaic and the results feel like they lack importance

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        @Duluth said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

        I feel the same about ODIs and T20s. ODIs have become just as formulaic and the results feel like they lack importance

        I’d respectfully disagree with that. If anything T20s have made me appreciate ODIs considerably more as there is still room for more ebbs and flows in games.

        But yeah, probably still a few forgettable series, not as much as T20 though !

        The 92 World Cup was utterly captivating. The 2015 World Cup loads of fun too. The 2029 one just heartbreaking.

        20/20 has never provide anything close to that

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        • MN5M MN5

          @Duluth said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

          I feel the same about ODIs and T20s. ODIs have become just as formulaic and the results feel like they lack importance

          I’d respectfully disagree with that. If anything T20s have made me appreciate ODIs considerably more as there is still room for more ebbs and flows in games.

          But yeah, probably still a few forgettable series, not as much as T20 though !

          The 92 World Cup was utterly captivating. The 2015 World Cup loads of fun too. The 2029 one just heartbreaking.

          20/20 has never provide anything close to that

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          @MN5

          There is no 'correct' answer.. its a preference. Personally T20's and ODIs are as interesting as each other right now. I'm sure there some people that love T20s and get bored by Tests

          For me I thinks it's because the balance has shifted too far away from the bowlers. That removes a lot of tension.. easy 6's gets boring in 20 overs and 50

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            @MN5

            There is no 'correct' answer.. its a preference. Personally T20's and ODIs are as interesting as each other right now. I'm sure there some people that love T20s and get bored by Tests

            For me I thinks it's because the balance has shifted too far away from the bowlers. That removes a lot of tension.. easy 6's gets boring in 20 overs and 50

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            @Duluth said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

            @MN5

            There is no 'correct' answer.. its a preference. Personally T20's and ODIs are as interesting as each other right now. I'm sure there some people that love T20s and get bored by Tests

            > For me I thinks it's because the balance has shifted too far away from the bowlers. That removes a lot of tension.. easy 6's gets boring in 20 overs and 50

            Yeah very much. The bowler with the ‘least shit’ run rate is lauded as doing well and I can’t stand mishits with modern bats in small grounds going for six. Back in the day hitters like Viv Richards, Beefy and our very own Lance Cairns had to fight so much more to earn the half dozens.

            A six should still be a ‘sit up and take notice’ moment but they get monotonous when there are lots of them

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            • MN5M MN5

              @Duluth said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

              @MN5

              There is no 'correct' answer.. its a preference. Personally T20's and ODIs are as interesting as each other right now. I'm sure there some people that love T20s and get bored by Tests

              > For me I thinks it's because the balance has shifted too far away from the bowlers. That removes a lot of tension.. easy 6's gets boring in 20 overs and 50

              Yeah very much. The bowler with the ‘least shit’ run rate is lauded as doing well and I can’t stand mishits with modern bats in small grounds going for six. Back in the day hitters like Viv Richards, Beefy and our very own Lance Cairns had to fight so much more to earn the half dozens.

              A six should still be a ‘sit up and take notice’ moment but they get monotonous when there are lots of them

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              @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

              I can’t stand mishits with modern bats in small grounds going for six

              I'll die on that hill with you.

              The moment a few years agon against SA when a spinner induced a shit top edge at Hamilton and it sailed over the fielder on the boundary was super frustrating.

              Golf reigned in club technology because the courses started playing too short. Cricket could consider something similar very easily

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              • MN5M MN5

                @Duluth said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                I feel the same about ODIs and T20s. ODIs have become just as formulaic and the results feel like they lack importance

                I’d respectfully disagree with that. If anything T20s have made me appreciate ODIs considerably more as there is still room for more ebbs and flows in games.

                But yeah, probably still a few forgettable series, not as much as T20 though !

                The 92 World Cup was utterly captivating. The 2015 World Cup loads of fun too. The 2029 one just heartbreaking.

                20/20 has never provide anything close to that

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                @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                he 2029 one just heartbreaking.

                Should have posted a spoiler alert

                https://tenor.com/en-NZ/view/youre-a-stupid-asshole-kyle-broflovski-south-park-the-passion-of-the-jew-s8e4-gif-22281228

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                • dogmeatD dogmeat

                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                  he 2029 one just heartbreaking.

                  Should have posted a spoiler alert

                  https://tenor.com/en-NZ/view/youre-a-stupid-asshole-kyle-broflovski-south-park-the-passion-of-the-jew-s8e4-gif-22281228

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                  #26

                  @dogmeat said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                  he 2029 one just heartbreaking.

                  Should have posted a spoiler alert

                  https://tenor.com/en-NZ/view/youre-a-stupid-asshole-kyle-broflovski-south-park-the-passion-of-the-jew-s8e4-gif-22281228

                  Yeah I can see into the future. They'll really need to keep an eye on Ben Stokes and I hope that stupid boundary law gets tidied up.

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                  • CyclopsC Offline
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                    #27

                    Chapman loves Pakistan. Shame he can't play like this against everyone else. He looks so good when he's batting well too.

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                    • CyclopsC Cyclops

                      Chapman loves Pakistan. Shame he can't play like this against everyone else. He looks so good when he's batting well too.

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                      @Cyclops he looked world class tonight. Placement off the charts

                      I'm getting lagered up in the stands. Good night out, despite the shit result for the women

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                        #29

                        I know it’s Eden Park with postage stamp boundaries, but our bowling is trash!

                        Too many freebie half volleys or half trackers

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                          I repeat, trash.

                          Pakistan have this wrapped up with 6 overs to go, run rate required down to a run a ball, 9 wickets in hand.

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                            Pretty tough day for both the men and the women. Both would have probably felt like they had a total that was defendable at the break, but both were probably 50+ runs short.

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                            • MN5M Online
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                              Some ugly bowling figures there, only Neesh going for under 10.

                              Am absolute hiding

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                                Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.

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                                  Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.

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                                  @1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                  Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.

                                  Are you talking about the player who has figure of 3/8 off 4 overs in his previous game.
                                  Sure he had a shitter at Eden Park every bowler did, with short boundaries that create 6 and 4s from miss hits, hard on all bowlers at that ground.
                                  I am not writing off Jamieson in 20/20s he moves the ball both ways has height so generates awkward bounce and can hit a decent length

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                                    220/6 off our 20. Weird innings, got totally bogged down through the 10-16 over mark. Not sure if that's good bowling, or Allen and Seifert playing well. Feels like we're either about 30 ahead of par or 30 behind.

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      @1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                      Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.

                                      Are you talking about the player who has figure of 3/8 off 4 overs in his previous game.
                                      Sure he had a shitter at Eden Park every bowler did, with short boundaries that create 6 and 4s from miss hits, hard on all bowlers at that ground.
                                      I am not writing off Jamieson in 20/20s he moves the ball both ways has height so generates awkward bounce and can hit a decent length

                                      MN5M Online
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                                      MN5
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                                      #36

                                      @Chris said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                      @1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                      Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.

                                      Are you talking about the player who has figure of 3/8 off 4 overs in his previous game.
                                      Sure he had a shitter at Eden Park every bowler did, with short boundaries that create 6 and 4s from miss hits, hard on all bowlers at that ground.
                                      I am not writing off Jamieson in 20/20s he moves the ball both ways has height so generates awkward bounce and can hit a decent length

                                      I just want him to stay fit for the longest format.

                                      Jamieson, O’Rourke and Henry ( can’t believe I’m saying this but his improvement has been immense ) at their best are as good as any pace trio in the game

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                                      • ChrisC Chris

                                        @1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                        Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.

                                        Are you talking about the player who has figure of 3/8 off 4 overs in his previous game.
                                        Sure he had a shitter at Eden Park every bowler did, with short boundaries that create 6 and 4s from miss hits, hard on all bowlers at that ground.
                                        I am not writing off Jamieson in 20/20s he moves the ball both ways has height so generates awkward bounce and can hit a decent length

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                                        @Chris said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                        @1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                        Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.

                                        Are you talking about the player who has figure of 3/8 off 4 overs in his previous game.
                                        Sure he had a shitter at Eden Park every bowler did, with short boundaries that create 6 and 4s from miss hits, hard on all bowlers at that ground.
                                        I am not writing off Jamieson in 20/20s he moves the ball both ways has height so generates awkward bounce and can hit a decent length

                                        He is injury prone as it is I just don't believe we should risk playing him in this hit and giggle garbage. Save him for the longer formats.

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @Chris said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                          @1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                          Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.

                                          Are you talking about the player who has figure of 3/8 off 4 overs in his previous game.
                                          Sure he had a shitter at Eden Park every bowler did, with short boundaries that create 6 and 4s from miss hits, hard on all bowlers at that ground.
                                          I am not writing off Jamieson in 20/20s he moves the ball both ways has height so generates awkward bounce and can hit a decent length

                                          I just want him to stay fit for the longest format.

                                          Jamieson, O’Rourke and Henry ( can’t believe I’m saying this but his improvement has been immense ) at their best are as good as any pace trio in the game

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                                          #38

                                          @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                          @Chris said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                          @1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

                                          Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.

                                          Are you talking about the player who has figure of 3/8 off 4 overs in his previous game.
                                          Sure he had a shitter at Eden Park every bowler did, with short boundaries that create 6 and 4s from miss hits, hard on all bowlers at that ground.
                                          I am not writing off Jamieson in 20/20s he moves the ball both ways has height so generates awkward bounce and can hit a decent length

                                          I just want him to stay fit for the longest format.

                                          Jamieson, O’Rourke and Henry ( can’t believe I’m saying this but his improvement has been immense ) at their best are as good as any pace trio in the game

                                          Yep totally agree it is an exciting trio if they stay fit they could win us a lot of games,
                                          They have everything as a combo
                                          Pace, bounce move the ball both ways.
                                          Fingers crossed they all get on the park together consistently.

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