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Black Ferns 2025

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @kev du Plessis offers little at centre. No pace and seldom makes a line break. We need some x-factor at centre, so either Stacey or Portia. Joseph is also a handbrake at halfback at times. I'll be interested to see what Pouri-Lane can do. If the BFs want to play up-tempo you can't select a halfback who is so deliberate before passing. Woodman-Wickliffe needed her hands on the ball.

    And defending the lineout drive. England will brutally expose them there.

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    @Bovidae Agree. Joseph had average 1st game so surprised to see her start.

    They didn’t exit well - England will kill them close to line. At restart the receiver often had time to kick and clear but the default was to pass to runner to take it into contact.

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      The inability to defend a maul is still a major Achilles heel of this BF team. Also need a fetcher at 7. Tukuafu isn’t up to it. She needs to be Les Elder’d and dropped completely. I thought she might reproduce her Aupiki form with her turnover rate but nope. Miller needs to be picked here but I’m worried Bunting will still start Tukuafu next week. Miller needs to get the full game to get her minutes up.

      However, the inability to give good ball to the wings is also a major problem. The ball dies when it gets to AdP. She needs to be dropped. The fact that Bumting only got rid of her with 5mins to go instead of shifting Woodman to centre is a huge concern - it means Bunting actually rates AdP and she might well be going to the World Cup possibly at the expense of far better midfielders like Setefano and Waaka. That’ll be a massive selection error if he does that. She’s not up to it. Brunt played well though.

      Agree on Joseph. Her passing is so slow it’s a massive liability.

      England will destroy this BF team. Bunting really doesn’t have a clue.

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        The roles of the loose forwards aren't matching their jersey number. Tukuafu was often stationed out wide and made plenty of metres carrying. Mikaele-Tu'u was fairly anonymous against Canada with the ball.

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          The rest of the BF7s players start, as well as some debutants.

          https://www.allblacks.com/news/black-ferns-named-in-must-win-match-against-usa

          1 Kate Henwood
          2 Georgia Ponsonby
          3 Veisinia Mahutariki-Fakalelu*
          4 Alana Bremner
          5 Maiakawanakaulani Roos
          6 Liana Mikaele-Tu’u
          7 Jorja Miller*
          8 Kaipo Olsen-Baker
          9 Risaleaana Pouri-Lane*
          10 Ruahei Demant (cc)
          11 Katelyn Vahaakolo
          12 Theresa Setefano
          13 Stacey Waaka
          14 Portia Woodman-Wickliffe
          15 Braxton Sorensen-McGee

          16 Vici-Rose Green*
          17 Awhina Tangen-Wainohu
          18 Tanya Kalounivale
          19 Chelsea Bremner
          20 Kennedy Tukuafu (cc)
          21 Maia Joseph
          22 Hannah King
          23 Logo-I-Pulotu Lemapu-Atai’i Sylvia Brunt

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            The rest of the BF7s players start, as well as some debutants.

            https://www.allblacks.com/news/black-ferns-named-in-must-win-match-against-usa

            1 Kate Henwood
            2 Georgia Ponsonby
            3 Veisinia Mahutariki-Fakalelu*
            4 Alana Bremner
            5 Maiakawanakaulani Roos
            6 Liana Mikaele-Tu’u
            7 Jorja Miller*
            8 Kaipo Olsen-Baker
            9 Risaleaana Pouri-Lane*
            10 Ruahei Demant (cc)
            11 Katelyn Vahaakolo
            12 Theresa Setefano
            13 Stacey Waaka
            14 Portia Woodman-Wickliffe
            15 Braxton Sorensen-McGee

            16 Vici-Rose Green*
            17 Awhina Tangen-Wainohu
            18 Tanya Kalounivale
            19 Chelsea Bremner
            20 Kennedy Tukuafu (cc)
            21 Maia Joseph
            22 Hannah King
            23 Logo-I-Pulotu Lemapu-Atai’i Sylvia Brunt

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            @Bovidae said in Black Ferns 2025:

            3 Veisinia Mahutariki-Fakalelu*

            Incredible stuff at 20 years old. Major knee surgery first year out of school, a debut season in the FPC last year, Aupiki debut this year and finally an intertnational debut all in under 12 months.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              The rest of the BF7s players start, as well as some debutants.

              https://www.allblacks.com/news/black-ferns-named-in-must-win-match-against-usa

              1 Kate Henwood
              2 Georgia Ponsonby
              3 Veisinia Mahutariki-Fakalelu*
              4 Alana Bremner
              5 Maiakawanakaulani Roos
              6 Liana Mikaele-Tu’u
              7 Jorja Miller*
              8 Kaipo Olsen-Baker
              9 Risaleaana Pouri-Lane*
              10 Ruahei Demant (cc)
              11 Katelyn Vahaakolo
              12 Theresa Setefano
              13 Stacey Waaka
              14 Portia Woodman-Wickliffe
              15 Braxton Sorensen-McGee

              16 Vici-Rose Green*
              17 Awhina Tangen-Wainohu
              18 Tanya Kalounivale
              19 Chelsea Bremner
              20 Kennedy Tukuafu (cc)
              21 Maia Joseph
              22 Hannah King
              23 Logo-I-Pulotu Lemapu-Atai’i Sylvia Brunt

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              @Bovidae said in Black Ferns 2025:

              The rest of the BF7s players start, as well as some debutants.

              https://www.allblacks.com/news/black-ferns-named-in-must-win-match-against-usa

              4 Alana Bremner
              19 Chelsea Bremner

              I thought they had dropped one of the Bremners? My bad

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                @Bovidae said in Black Ferns 2025:

                The rest of the BF7s players start, as well as some debutants.

                https://www.allblacks.com/news/black-ferns-named-in-must-win-match-against-usa

                4 Alana Bremner
                19 Chelsea Bremner

                I thought they had dropped one of the Bremners? My bad

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                @booboo said in Black Ferns 2025:

                I thought they had dropped one of the Bremners? My bad

                Chelsea had been dropped but has been added to the squad as an injury replacement for Dhys Faleafaga.

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                  The x-factor of the BF7s players is evident, and see what a difference a halfback who passes quickly makes to the attack.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    The x-factor of the BF7s players is evident, and see what a difference a halfback who passes quickly makes to the attack.

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                    @Bovidae said in Black Ferns 2025:

                    The x-factor of the BF7s players is evident, and see what a difference a halfback who passes quickly makes to the attack.

                    Very good, Georgia Miller has been impressive.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      The x-factor of the BF7s players is evident, and see what a difference a halfback who passes quickly makes to the attack.

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                      @Bovidae said in Black Ferns 2025:

                      The x-factor of the BF7s players is evident, and see what a difference a halfback who passes quickly makes to the attack.

                      Yeah, the backline looked so much better. Lineout and maul D. needs work. I think they go all out attack with players like Miller and hope to score more than England/France. Kicking game will need to be better.

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                        @Bovidae said in Black Ferns 2025:

                        The x-factor of the BF7s players is evident, and see what a difference a halfback who passes quickly makes to the attack.

                        Yeah, the backline looked so much better. Lineout and maul D. needs work. I think they go all out attack with players like Miller and hope to score more than England/France. Kicking game will need to be better.

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                        @kev said in Black Ferns 2025:

                        @Bovidae said in Black Ferns 2025:

                        The x-factor of the BF7s players is evident, and see what a difference a halfback who passes quickly makes to the attack.

                        Yeah, the backline looked so much better. Lineout and maul D. needs work. I think they go all out attack with players like Miller and hope to score more than England/France. Kicking game will need to be better.

                        Very impressive with ball in hand. If we can get close to parity up front, we can turn games into a track meet, and I'm not sure there will be many teams who will keep up with us over 80 minutes.

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                          That team v USA is essentially the first XV give or take a few of the tight-five - I’d like Chelsea Bremner to start instead of her sister. Alana could be an option off the bench but Chelsea is a specialist lock. Alana is a loose forward / lock. Visinia-Fakalelu is certainly someone to develop further but she’s got the size to match the English/French behemoth forwards. Probably doesn’t have the power down pat yet. Henwood had her moments. We’ve still got problems at hooker — especially at lineout time. The lineouts malfunctioned at various points during this pac-4. I wish Bunting had made it his special mission to develop the forwards in the past three years. We know we’ve got the backs to run any team into the ground; it’s just the right-five we need.

                          Risi Pouri-Lane is a massive upgrade on Joseph. As is Miller on Tukuafu (who is better to go to 6 or 8 off the bench) and Waaka on AdP. Massive upgrade.

                          Add Leti-Iiga and Brunt and it’s pretty much perfect.

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                            Some injuries and additions for the squad to play the Black Ferns XV and Australia in July.

                            Saturday, July 5, 1.05pm – Black Ferns v Black Ferns XV trial-match, Semenoff Stadium, Whangārei.
                            Saturday, July 12, 4.30pm kick-off – Black Ferns v Australia, Sky Stadium, Wellington.
                            Friday, July 25 – RWC squad announcement event (more details to come)
                            Wednesday, August 13 – Travel day to England for the RWC

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                                The last test before the RWC squad will be announced in a couple of weeks.

                                https://www.allblacks.com/news/black-ferns-named-to-face-australia-in-oreilly-cup-presented-by-bupa-test-match-s-article

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                                  Wallaroos have started very well. Playing the conditions better than the Black Ferns

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                                    Wallaroos have started very well. Playing the conditions better than the Black Ferns

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                                    @KiwiMurph said in Black Ferns 2025:

                                    Wallaroos have started very well. Playing the conditions better than the Black Ferns

                                    Is this on telly or internetworkings?

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                                      Nevermind, got it!

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                                        Good tackling by both teams

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                                          Good crowd in.

                                          Ref is a battler.

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