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WR U20 Championship 2025

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Bovidae
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    My top XV would be this:

    1 Pole
    2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
    3 Wallace
    4 Vakasiuola
    5 Tengblad
    6 Sa
    7 Mathis
    8 Bason
    9 Pledger
    10 Simpson/Cole
    11 Vaenuku
    12 Wiseman
    13 Cameron
    14 Kunawave
    15 Solomon

    The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      My top XV would be this:

      1 Pole
      2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
      3 Wallace
      4 Vakasiuola
      5 Tengblad
      6 Sa
      7 Mathis
      8 Bason
      9 Pledger
      10 Simpson/Cole
      11 Vaenuku
      12 Wiseman
      13 Cameron
      14 Kunawave
      15 Solomon

      The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

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      Canes4life
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      @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

      My top XV would be this:

      1 Pole
      2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
      3 Wallace
      4 Vakasiuola
      5 Tengblad
      6 Sa
      7 Mathis
      8 Bason
      9 Pledger
      10 Simpson/Cole
      11 Vaenuku
      12 Wiseman
      13 Cameron
      14 Kunawave
      15 Solomon

      The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

      Decent team, from what we saw in the Rugby Championship I would prefer Cole over Simpson at 10.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        My top XV would be this:

        1 Pole
        2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
        3 Wallace
        4 Vakasiuola
        5 Tengblad
        6 Sa
        7 Mathis
        8 Bason
        9 Pledger
        10 Simpson/Cole
        11 Vaenuku
        12 Wiseman
        13 Cameron
        14 Kunawave
        15 Solomon

        The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

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        Chris
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        @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

        My top XV would be this:

        1 Pole
        2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
        3 Wallace
        4 Vakasiuola
        5 Tengblad
        6 Sa
        7 Mathis
        8 Bason
        9 Pledger
        10 Simpson/Cole
        11 Vaenuku
        12 Wiseman
        13 Cameron
        14 Kunawave
        15 Solomon

        The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

        I am not sure what you see in Wiseman he didn't impress me in the RC.

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

          My top XV would be this:

          1 Pole
          2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
          3 Wallace
          4 Vakasiuola
          5 Tengblad
          6 Sa
          7 Mathis
          8 Bason
          9 Pledger
          10 Simpson/Cole
          11 Vaenuku
          12 Wiseman
          13 Cameron
          14 Kunawave
          15 Solomon

          The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

          Decent team, from what we saw in the Rugby Championship I would prefer Cole over Simpson at 10.

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          SouthernMann
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          #7

          @Canes4life said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

          @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

          My top XV would be this:

          1 Pole
          2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
          3 Wallace
          4 Vakasiuola
          5 Tengblad
          6 Sa
          7 Mathis
          8 Bason
          9 Pledger
          10 Simpson/Cole
          11 Vaenuku
          12 Wiseman
          13 Cameron
          14 Kunawave
          15 Solomon

          The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

          Decent team, from what we saw in the Rugby Championship I would prefer Cole over Simpson at 10.

          Good Hurricanes boy as well.

          With another player in a 50/50 spot. I want Harvey in the midfield too.

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

            My top XV would be this:

            1 Pole
            2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
            3 Wallace
            4 Vakasiuola
            5 Tengblad
            6 Sa
            7 Mathis
            8 Bason
            9 Pledger
            10 Simpson/Cole
            11 Vaenuku
            12 Wiseman
            13 Cameron
            14 Kunawave
            15 Solomon

            The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

            I am not sure what you see in Wiseman he didn't impress me in the RC.

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            Bovidae
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            @Chris said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

            I am not sure what you see in Wiseman he didn't impress me in the RC.

            As I said, the midfield combo could be any of them. Wiseman was preferred to Harvey. It could end up being the Crusaders duo as Cameron was injured.

            I thought Wiseman was accurate and involved in a lot of tries by making the right decisions. He was still playing U18 last year so has at least one, if not two years of U20 eligibility left.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              @Chris said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

              I am not sure what you see in Wiseman he didn't impress me in the RC.

              As I said, the midfield combo could be any of them. Wiseman was preferred to Harvey. It could end up being the Crusaders duo as Cameron was injured.

              I thought Wiseman was accurate and involved in a lot of tries by making the right decisions. He was still playing U18 last year so has at least one, if not two years of U20 eligibility left.

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              Chris
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              @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

              @Chris said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

              I am not sure what you see in Wiseman he didn't impress me in the RC.

              As I said, the midfield combo could be any of them. Wiseman was preferred to Harvey. It could end up being the Crusaders duo as Cameron was injured.

              I thought Wiseman was accurate and involved in a lot of tries by making the right decisions. He was still playing U18 last year so has at least one, if not two years of U20 eligibility left.

              I thought Wiseman went on his own at times and killed some attacking moments.
              I would prefer Cameron and Roberts or Harvey and Cameron.

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                Interesting to see that Mathis is named as being with the Chiefs?

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                  Is Finn McLeod related to Dallas?

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                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                    Is Finn McLeod related to Dallas?

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                    Bovidae
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                    @Crazy-Horse said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                    Is Finn McLeod related to Dallas?

                    He is Grizz's grandson.

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      Interesting to see that Mathis is named as being with the Chiefs?

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                      @gt12 said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                      Interesting to see that Mathis is named as being with the Chiefs?

                      Yeah that is their u/20s sides not the SR teams.

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                        Mamuka
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                        #14

                        Hello , what are the heights of Vakasiuola and Sa?

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                        • M Mamuka

                          Hello , what are the heights of Vakasiuola and Sa?

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                          Bovidae
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                          @Mamuka said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                          Hello , what are the heights of Vakasiuola and Sa?

                          Tengblad is easily the tallest of the locks chosen. I've seen Vakasiuola listed as about 1.97 m (more with the Ardie hair), and Sa is a little shorter.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            My top XV would be this:

                            1 Pole
                            2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
                            3 Wallace
                            4 Vakasiuola
                            5 Tengblad
                            6 Sa
                            7 Mathis
                            8 Bason
                            9 Pledger
                            10 Simpson/Cole
                            11 Vaenuku
                            12 Wiseman
                            13 Cameron
                            14 Kunawave
                            15 Solomon

                            The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

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                            Mauss
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #16

                            @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                            My top XV would be this:

                            1 Pole
                            2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
                            3 Wallace
                            4 Vakasiuola
                            5 Tengblad
                            6 Sa
                            7 Mathis
                            8 Bason
                            9 Pledger
                            10 Simpson/Cole
                            11 Vaenuku
                            12 Wiseman
                            13 Cameron
                            14 Kunawave
                            15 Solomon

                            The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

                            My own preferences are pretty similar to this, including Sa as a blindside option.

                            One thing I'll say though, after watching way too many defensive sets from the U20 TRC, is that Xavier Treacy and Cooper Roberts put in big defensive shifts during that tournament. I'm not sure you can leave them out. Treacy was also a very reliable lineout option.

                            I would probably put Vakasiuola on the bench, to provide impact in the final 20-30 minutes. I'd like to see Cameron have a shot at 12 since I'm just intrigued to see what he can offer there.

                            I'm a bit miffed at Tofilau not being selected, I thought he did more than enough to earn his spot. Ahloo, on the other hand, can probably count himself a bit lucky, as I didn't think he had a good tournament. He's still a promising player, so hopefully he has an improved showing in Italy.

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                            • MaussM Mauss

                              @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                              My top XV would be this:

                              1 Pole
                              2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
                              3 Wallace
                              4 Vakasiuola
                              5 Tengblad
                              6 Sa
                              7 Mathis
                              8 Bason
                              9 Pledger
                              10 Simpson/Cole
                              11 Vaenuku
                              12 Wiseman
                              13 Cameron
                              14 Kunawave
                              15 Solomon

                              The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

                              My own preferences are pretty similar to this, including Sa as a blindside option.

                              One thing I'll say though, after watching way too many defensive sets from the U20 TRC, is that Xavier Treacy and Cooper Roberts put in big defensive shifts during that tournament. I'm not sure you can leave them out. Treacy was also a very reliable lineout option.

                              I would probably put Vakasiuola on the bench, to provide impact in the final 20-30 minutes. I'd like to see Cameron have a shot at 12 since I'm just intrigued to see what he can offer there.

                              I'm a bit miffed at Tofilau not being selected, I thought he did more than enough to earn his spot. Ahloo, on the other hand, can probably count himself a bit lucky, as I didn't think he had a good tournament. He's still a promising player, so hopefully he has an improved showing in Italy.

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                              Kiwidom
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                              @Mauss Agreed, plus Tofilau's bulk could be useful if we come up against France or England in the tournament

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                                zedsdeadbaby
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                                Milton Haig has stepped down. Credit to the person that suggested it yesterday.

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                                  hikastags
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                                  I would've thought Joey Taumateine and Tito-Harris would have been there.

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                                    Daffy Jaffy
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                                    "I do not feel I’m fully aligned with the coaching group around things like playing style, so have made the difficult decision to step aside to give the team its best chance of reaching its full potential".

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360704357/not-aligned-nz-under-20-rugby-coach-milton-haig-makes-shock-announcement

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                                      canefan
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                                      So did he walk or was he pushed? Either way, hopefully it is better for the team

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                                        tomk
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                                        England lost Wales when Pollock got called up to the senior team. He will be away with the lions so England won't be as strong as the looked early in the 6 nations. France will lose some players to the NZ tour. Players like tuilagi will probably be with the seniors in NZ. NZ have a great chance of winning this with a easy group. Ireland came last in the 6 nations

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                                        • Z zedsdeadbaby

                                          Milton Haig has stepped down. Credit to the person that suggested it yesterday.

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                                          @zedsdeadbaby said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                                          Milton Haig has stepped down.

                                          Is it time to parachute in the Professor for another quick fix?

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