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2025 All Blacks v France series

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    where are all these sick new usernames coming from?

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      where are all these sick new usernames coming from?

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      @mariner4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

      where are all these sick new usernames coming from?

      unleash the AI 😄

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        The selectors are really going hard on the loose forward positions being interchangeable and not being wedded to who's playing where.

        I was thinking when they named their original five that actually they had three people who could play each position.

        1. Finau, Sititi, Jacobson
        2. Kirifi, Savea, Jacobson
        3. Sititi, Savea, Jacobson

        But with CLW coming in - if Luke is ruled out and Dalton also comes in, really we'd have:

        1. Finau (I guess Dalton at a pinch)
        2. Kirifi, Savea, Papali'i
        3. CLW, Savea
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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          The selectors are really going hard on the loose forward positions being interchangeable and not being wedded to who's playing where.

          I was thinking when they named their original five that actually they had three people who could play each position.

          1. Finau, Sititi, Jacobson
          2. Kirifi, Savea, Jacobson
          3. Sititi, Savea, Jacobson

          But with CLW coming in - if Luke is ruled out and Dalton also comes in, really we'd have:

          1. Finau (I guess Dalton at a pinch)
          2. Kirifi, Savea, Papali'i
          3. CLW, Savea
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          @Chris-B which makes it very hard to fathom why Blackadder hasn’t been brought in. Something is definitely off there.

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            Think you guys are forgetting the 4 locks that cover 6.

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              The selectors are really going hard on the loose forward positions being interchangeable and not being wedded to who's playing where.

              I was thinking when they named their original five that actually they had three people who could play each position.

              1. Finau, Sititi, Jacobson
              2. Kirifi, Savea, Jacobson
              3. Sititi, Savea, Jacobson

              But with CLW coming in - if Luke is ruled out and Dalton also comes in, really we'd have:

              1. Finau (I guess Dalton at a pinch)
              2. Kirifi, Savea, Papali'i
              3. CLW, Savea
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              @Chris-B It was mentioned in the Herald a couple of times this year (and by @george33) that Papalii had increased his weight to have more impact in collisions, so he may be looked at as a seven and six cover.

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                Yes, but id argue that Blackadder has been playing far better and covers exactly the same things.

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                  Blackadder and Bell both been training with ABs this week.

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                    @Number-10 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

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                    Down vote

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                    • AmberArmyA AmberArmy

                      @Chris-B which makes it very hard to fathom why Blackadder hasn’t been brought in. Something is definitely off there.

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                      @AmberArmy said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                      @Chris-B which makes it very hard to fathom why Blackadder hasn’t been brought in. Something is definitely off there.

                      Razor thinks Ethan lacks impact. So that would suggest he's down the pecking order and may have been told to address that in the NPC?

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                      • nzzpN nzzp

                        @mariner4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                        where are all these sick new usernames coming from?

                        unleash the AI 😄

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                        @nzzp said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                        @mariner4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                        where are all these sick new usernames coming from?

                        unleash the AI 😄

                        https://tenor.com/en-NZ/view/kristanna-loken-problem-tx-terminator-rise-of-the-machines-gif-24408191

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @AmberArmy said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                          @Chris-B which makes it very hard to fathom why Blackadder hasn’t been brought in. Something is definitely off there.

                          Razor thinks Ethan lacks impact. So that would suggest he's down the pecking order and may have been told to address that in the NPC?

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                          @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                          @AmberArmy said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                          @Chris-B which makes it very hard to fathom why Blackadder hasn’t been brought in. Something is definitely off there.

                          Razor thinks Ethan lacks impact. So that would suggest he's down the pecking order and may have been told to address that in the NPC?

                          Took him long enough.

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                          • TimT Tim

                            @Chris-B It was mentioned in the Herald a couple of times this year (and by @george33) that Papalii had increased his weight to have more impact in collisions, so he may be looked at as a seven and six cover.

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                            @Tim said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                            @Chris-B It was mentioned in the Herald a couple of times this year (and by @george33) that Papalii had increased his weight to have more impact in collisions, so he may be looked at as a seven and six cover.

                            He may be doing the right thing, but it's bloody hard to know.

                            On the one hand they appear to be picking utility guys who are going to be good in general play - almost left and right flankers - but not great at lineouts or where massive speed is a necessity.

                            On the other hand, they're picking Kirifi (a whippet) and Finau a big body.

                            I can't tell whether they want two or three generalists or three specialists.

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                              @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                              @AmberArmy said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                              @Chris-B which makes it very hard to fathom why Blackadder hasn’t been brought in. Something is definitely off there.

                              Razor thinks Ethan lacks impact. So that would suggest he's down the pecking order and may have been told to address that in the NPC?

                              Took him long enough.

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                              @MN5 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                              @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                              @AmberArmy said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                              @Chris-B which makes it very hard to fathom why Blackadder hasn’t been brought in. Something is definitely off there.

                              Razor thinks Ethan lacks impact. So that would suggest he's down the pecking order and may have been told to address that in the NPC?

                              Took him long enough.

                              Yeah, after all in the playoffs the impact of Finau, Jacobson, Papalii, Sititi against Blackadder was what exactly?

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                                If Blackadder and Bell have been at Allblack trainings this week they still are in the picture somewhere.

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                                • R reprobate

                                  @MN5 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                  @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                  @AmberArmy said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                  @Chris-B which makes it very hard to fathom why Blackadder hasn’t been brought in. Something is definitely off there.

                                  Razor thinks Ethan lacks impact. So that would suggest he's down the pecking order and may have been told to address that in the NPC?

                                  Took him long enough.

                                  Yeah, after all in the playoffs the impact of Finau, Jacobson, Papalii, Sititi against Blackadder was what exactly?

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                                  @reprobate said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                  @MN5 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                  @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                  @AmberArmy said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                  @Chris-B which makes it very hard to fathom why Blackadder hasn’t been brought in. Something is definitely off there.

                                  Razor thinks Ethan lacks impact. So that would suggest he's down the pecking order and may have been told to address that in the NPC?

                                  Took him long enough.

                                  Yeah, after all in the playoffs the impact of Finau, Jacobson, Papalii, Sititi against Blackadder was what exactly?

                                  Razor has decided it’s too little too late

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                                    brodean
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                                    One thing Blackadder is low on compared to other loose forwards is breakdown steals. 2 for the season.

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @Tim said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                      @Chris-B It was mentioned in the Herald a couple of times this year (and by @george33) that Papalii had increased his weight to have more impact in collisions, so he may be looked at as a seven and six cover.

                                      He may be doing the right thing, but it's bloody hard to know.

                                      On the one hand they appear to be picking utility guys who are going to be good in general play - almost left and right flankers - but not great at lineouts or where massive speed is a necessity.

                                      On the other hand, they're picking Kirifi (a whippet) and Finau a big body.

                                      I can't tell whether they want two or three generalists or three specialists.

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                                      @Chris-B said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                      @Tim said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                      @Chris-B It was mentioned in the Herald a couple of times this year (and by @george33) that Papalii had increased his weight to have more impact in collisions, so he may be looked at as a seven and six cover.

                                      He may be doing the right thing, but it's bloody hard to know.

                                      On the one hand they appear to be picking utility guys who are going to be good in general play - almost left and right flankers - but not great at lineouts or where massive speed is a necessity.

                                      On the other hand, they're picking Kirifi (a whippet) and Finau a big body.

                                      I can't tell whether they want two or three generalists or three specialists.

                                      That's my concern, we keep picking squads which don't really make any cohesive sense to me. Savea and Kirifi makes sense - if they're picking Savea as a 7. If they're picking Savea as an 8 and Jacobson as a 7 on the other hand, then LJ and Kirifi are completely different.
                                      CLW in for Sititi would make sense if they were planning to play Wallace at 8 - but CLW wasn't actually picked as that, he was picked as cover for Jacobson... who he plays really quite differently to.
                                      And obviously Finau and who? Surely they can't be serious about the locks - they might provide a comparable lineout option, but they will not be up to scratch in other areas. And the other loosies picked don't play like him at all either. What do we do if he doesn't work out? Is there a plan for that? Because there bloody well ought to be given it is exactly what happened last year.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        Think you guys are forgetting the 4 locks that cover 6.

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                                        @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                        Think you guys are forgetting the 4 locks that cover 6.

                                        The slight problem with that plan is that the two guys who cover six are also pretty clearly our top lock pairing.

                                        Maybe the plan will become obvious once they've named a couple of teams - or maybe it will be like last year where the plan was so cunning it needed to paint itself purple and dance naked on top of a harpsichord singing 'Cunning plans are here again' for us to recognize it!

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                                          Jacobson, Lio Willie, and Papali'i cover six.

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