2025 All Blacks v France series
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@antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
My impression is he doesn't do enough in the defensive side of the game.
Lasaqa doesn't hit enough rucks for a 7 and is ineffective:
Rucks Per 80 Minutes
35.34 Dalton Papali'i
32.44 Tom Christie
31.48 Du'Plessis Kirifi
29.13 Jahrome Brown
28.53 Ardie Savea
26.84 Luke Jacobson
26.31 Kaylum Boshier
20.92 Veveni LasaqaAttacking Ruck Effectiveness
89.9 Dalton Papali'i
89.6 Tom Christie
87.6 Jahrome Brown
86.3 Ardie Savea
85.0 Du'Plessis Kirifi
84.9 Luke Jacobson
76.5 Veveni Lasaqa
76.1 Kaylum BoshierDefensive Ruck Effectiveness
23.5 Kaylum Boshier
23.2 Luke Jacobson
21.5 Du'Plessis Kirifi
20.5 Ardie Savea
15.2 Jahrome Brown
14.5 Dalton Papali'i
13.8 Tom Christie
12.1 Veveni Lasaqa@brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
My impression is he doesn't do enough in the defensive side of the game.
Lasaqa doesn't hit enough rucks for a 7 and is ineffective:
Rucks Per 80 Minutes
35.34 Dalton Papali'i
32.44 Tom Christie
31.48 Du'Plessis Kirifi
29.13 Jahrome Brown
28.53 Ardie Savea
26.84 Luke Jacobson
26.31 Kaylum Boshier
20.92 Veveni LasaqaAttacking Ruck Effectiveness
89.9 Dalton Papali'i
89.6 Tom Christie
87.6 Jahrome Brown
86.3 Ardie Savea
85.0 Du'Plessis Kirifi
84.9 Luke Jacobson
76.5 Veveni Lasaqa
76.1 Kaylum BoshierDefensive Ruck Effectiveness
23.5 Kaylum Boshier
23.2 Luke Jacobson
21.5 Du'Plessis Kirifi
20.5 Ardie Savea
15.2 Jahrome Brown
14.5 Dalton Papali'i
13.8 Tom Christie
12.1 Veveni LasaqaBe interested to see Sean Withy's stats there. Lasaqa spends a lot of time in the wider channels. With Withy primarily being the worker. It is Lasaqa's first year in Super too. He will get better, bigger and more robust.
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@Bovidae said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
The key for those stats was for a 7.
Blackadder more a 6 than a 7 I think that showed in the SR finals.
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@Tim said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Landers92 How about off the bench in game 2, or a start in game 3? Seems that lineout and defense are his best areas.
Wasn’t aware he was talking about game 1. I’m sure they have a plan for these newbies, feels like the days of throwing players to the wolves doesn’t really happen anymore.
@Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Tim said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Landers92 How about off the bench in game 2, or a start in game 3? Seems that lineout and defense are his best areas.
Wasn’t aware he was talking about game 1. I’m sure they have a plan for these newbies, feels like the days of throwing players to the wolves doesn’t really happen anymore.
But is playing against this French side in a home series really the wolves? I don’t think so. Sure every test match is a ‘test’, but this series presents an ideal opportunity to see some of the less experienced players along side experienced ABs and what they can do.
I would love to see a number of them start.
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@brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
My impression is he doesn't do enough in the defensive side of the game.
Lasaqa doesn't hit enough rucks for a 7 and is ineffective:
Rucks Per 80 Minutes
35.34 Dalton Papali'i
32.44 Tom Christie
31.48 Du'Plessis Kirifi
29.13 Jahrome Brown
28.53 Ardie Savea
26.84 Luke Jacobson
26.31 Kaylum Boshier
20.92 Veveni LasaqaAttacking Ruck Effectiveness
89.9 Dalton Papali'i
89.6 Tom Christie
87.6 Jahrome Brown
86.3 Ardie Savea
85.0 Du'Plessis Kirifi
84.9 Luke Jacobson
76.5 Veveni Lasaqa
76.1 Kaylum BoshierDefensive Ruck Effectiveness
23.5 Kaylum Boshier
23.2 Luke Jacobson
21.5 Du'Plessis Kirifi
20.5 Ardie Savea
15.2 Jahrome Brown
14.5 Dalton Papali'i
13.8 Tom Christie
12.1 Veveni LasaqaBe interested to see Sean Withy's stats there. Lasaqa spends a lot of time in the wider channels. With Withy primarily being the worker. It is Lasaqa's first year in Super too. He will get better, bigger and more robust.
He's a good prospect. Some where suggesting he should be on the AB's radar based on his running game and I just wanted to show he has some weakness to his game he needs to work on.
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He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.
He's played 6 and 7 last year.
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He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.
He's played 6 and 7 last year.
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@African-Monkey by the same strawman token, I'm definitely not convinced EB dominated them either. And yeah I'm guessing the rest of the ABs should be crusaders too, since they dominated their opposites. Give them credit man!
@Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@African-Monkey by the same strawman token, I'm definitely not convinced EB dominated them either. And yeah I'm guessing the rest of the ABs should be crusaders too, since they dominated their opposites. Give them credit man!
I agree.
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@brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.
He's played 6 and 7 last year.
Grace covered 7 as well it was not always a swap to 7.
@Chris said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.
He's played 6 and 7 last year.
Grace covered 7 as well it was not always a swap to 7.
Ok let's do 6:
Lineouts for Season ( won + steals )
41 (2) Samipeni Finau
39 (2) Cullen Grace
31 (1) Brad Shields
25 (6) TK Howden
23 (5) Anton Segner
17 (3) Brayden Iose
14 (7) Devan Flanders
14 (3) Cam Christie
14 (0) Simon Parker
2 (0) Ethan BlackadderDominant Carry %
43.1 TK Howden
39.4 Brayden Iose
39.2 Simon Parker
37.2 Cam Christie
36.1 Samipeni Finau
35.3 Oliver Haig
30.8 Anton Segner
27.1 Cullen Grace
13.8 Ethan BlackadderGainline %
71.1 Samipeni Finau
69.6 Simon Parker
68.2 Anton Segner
66.2 TK Howden
64.7 Oliver Haig
55.8 Cam Christie
50.0 Brayden Iose
48.6 Cullen Grace
34.1 Ethan BlackadderTackle Evasion %
15.8 Oliver Haig
15.1 Samipeni Finau
14.1 TK Howden
12.2 Simon Parker
9.8 Cam Christie
9.4 Cullen Grace
9.2 Anton Segner
2.5 Ethan Blackadder -
@Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@African-Monkey by the same strawman token, I'm definitely not convinced EB dominated them either. And yeah I'm guessing the rest of the ABs should be crusaders too, since they dominated their opposites. Give them credit man!
I agree.
@ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@African-Monkey by the same strawman token, I'm definitely not convinced EB dominated them either. And yeah I'm guessing the rest of the ABs should be crusaders too, since they dominated their opposites. Give them credit man!
I agree.
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@Chris said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.
He's played 6 and 7 last year.
Grace covered 7 as well it was not always a swap to 7.
Ok let's do 6:
Lineouts for Season ( won + steals )
41 (2) Samipeni Finau
39 (2) Cullen Grace
31 (1) Brad Shields
25 (6) TK Howden
23 (5) Anton Segner
17 (3) Brayden Iose
14 (7) Devan Flanders
14 (3) Cam Christie
14 (0) Simon Parker
2 (0) Ethan BlackadderDominant Carry %
43.1 TK Howden
39.4 Brayden Iose
39.2 Simon Parker
37.2 Cam Christie
36.1 Samipeni Finau
35.3 Oliver Haig
30.8 Anton Segner
27.1 Cullen Grace
13.8 Ethan BlackadderGainline %
71.1 Samipeni Finau
69.6 Simon Parker
68.2 Anton Segner
66.2 TK Howden
64.7 Oliver Haig
55.8 Cam Christie
50.0 Brayden Iose
48.6 Cullen Grace
34.1 Ethan BlackadderTackle Evasion %
15.8 Oliver Haig
15.1 Samipeni Finau
14.1 TK Howden
12.2 Simon Parker
9.8 Cam Christie
9.4 Cullen Grace
9.2 Anton Segner
2.5 Ethan Blackadder@brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Chris said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.
He's played 6 and 7 last year.
Grace covered 7 as well it was not always a swap to 7.
Ok let's do 6:
Lineouts for Season ( won + steals )
41 (2) Samipeni Finau
39 (2) Cullen Grace
31 (1) Brad Shields
25 (6) TK Howden
23 (5) Anton Segner
17 (3) Brayden Iose
14 (7) Devan Flanders
14 (3) Cam Christie
14 (0) Simon Parker
2 (0) Ethan BlackadderDominant Carry %
43.1 TK Howden
39.4 Brayden Iose
39.2 Simon Parker
37.2 Cam Christie
36.1 Samipeni Finau
35.3 Oliver Haig
30.8 Anton Segner
27.1 Cullen Grace
13.8 Ethan BlackadderGainline %
71.1 Samipeni Finau
69.6 Simon Parker
68.2 Anton Segner
66.2 TK Howden
64.7 Oliver Haig
55.8 Cam Christie
50.0 Brayden Iose
48.6 Cullen Grace
34.1 Ethan BlackadderTackle Evasion %
15.8 Oliver Haig
15.1 Samipeni Finau
14.1 TK Howden
12.2 Simon Parker
9.8 Cam Christie
9.4 Cullen Grace
9.2 Anton Segner
2.5 Ethan BlackadderTK Howden looks good on the stats page.
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@brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Chris said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.
He's played 6 and 7 last year.
Grace covered 7 as well it was not always a swap to 7.
Ok let's do 6:
Lineouts for Season ( won + steals )
41 (2) Samipeni Finau
39 (2) Cullen Grace
31 (1) Brad Shields
25 (6) TK Howden
23 (5) Anton Segner
17 (3) Brayden Iose
14 (7) Devan Flanders
14 (3) Cam Christie
14 (0) Simon Parker
2 (0) Ethan BlackadderDominant Carry %
43.1 TK Howden
39.4 Brayden Iose
39.2 Simon Parker
37.2 Cam Christie
36.1 Samipeni Finau
35.3 Oliver Haig
30.8 Anton Segner
27.1 Cullen Grace
13.8 Ethan BlackadderGainline %
71.1 Samipeni Finau
69.6 Simon Parker
68.2 Anton Segner
66.2 TK Howden
64.7 Oliver Haig
55.8 Cam Christie
50.0 Brayden Iose
48.6 Cullen Grace
34.1 Ethan BlackadderTackle Evasion %
15.8 Oliver Haig
15.1 Samipeni Finau
14.1 TK Howden
12.2 Simon Parker
9.8 Cam Christie
9.4 Cullen Grace
9.2 Anton Segner
2.5 Ethan BlackadderTK Howden looks good on the stats page.
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@antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.
Sure, but he's is not that small
I think it's something else. Coaches of his and EB himself have joked about how unco he is. Too often he gets himself into weak positions going into contact and crumbles/bounces off etc
@Duluth said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.
Sure, but he's is not that small
I think it's something else. Coaches of his and EB himself have joked about how unco he is. Too often he gets himself into weak positions going into contact and crumbles/bounces off etc
Jason Ryan said in an interview ( i think it was the rugby podcast )
They want their 6s to be lineout jumpers going forward ,
Finau was mentioned as being good in this area ...... and i think it was the same interview where it was mentioned a couple of the locks can play 6 ,
I think Jacobson beat him in as the utility
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Contact Involvements Per 80 minutes ( Carries + Rucks + Tackles)
72.07 Ethan Blackadder
51.86 Cullen Grace
48.5 Anton Segner
48.33 Brayden Iose
48.05 Cam Christie
45.37 Simon Parker
43.17 TK Howden
42.27 Oliver Haig
40.0 Samipeni Finau -
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Blackadder and Bell both been training with ABs this week.
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@chchfanatic if that’s true then it makes the decision to bring in papali’i even stupider.
@AmberArmy said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@chchfanatic if that’s true then it makes the decision to bring in papali’i even stupider.
I am afraid that it had to happen after there was a United Nations resolution that everyone should move on from "Headbutt-gate".
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@antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.
Sure, but he's is not that small
I think it's something else. Coaches of his and EB himself have joked about how unco he is. Too often he gets himself into weak positions going into contact and crumbles/bounces off etc
@Duluth said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.
Sure, but he's is not that small
I think it's something else. Coaches of his and EB himself have joked about how unco he is. Too often he gets himself into weak positions going into contact and crumbles/bounces off etc
A lot of this you could actually apply to Rieko as well - he is a more than willing ball carrier but for a big man he goes to ground after initial contact a hell of a lot. Especially since his breakout first couple of years - my sense is that coaches have worked out where to target him as a ball carrier.
