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2025 All Blacks v France series

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  • B brodean

    @Chris

    He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.

    He's played 6 and 7 last year.

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    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @Chris

    He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.

    He's played 6 and 7 last year.

    Grace covered 7 as well it was not always a swap to 7.

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      @Chris

      He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.

      He's played 6 and 7 last year.

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      @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

      @Chris

      He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.

      He's played 6 and 7 last year.

      6 starts at 7
      4 starts at 6
      1 bench

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      • BonesB Bones

        @African-Monkey by the same strawman token, I'm definitely not convinced EB dominated them either. And yeah I'm guessing the rest of the ABs should be crusaders too, since they dominated their opposites. Give them credit man!

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        @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

        @African-Monkey by the same strawman token, I'm definitely not convinced EB dominated them either. And yeah I'm guessing the rest of the ABs should be crusaders too, since they dominated their opposites. Give them credit man!

        I agree.

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        • ChrisC Chris

          @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

          @Chris

          He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.

          He's played 6 and 7 last year.

          Grace covered 7 as well it was not always a swap to 7.

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          @Chris said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

          @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

          @Chris

          He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.

          He's played 6 and 7 last year.

          Grace covered 7 as well it was not always a swap to 7.

          Ok let's do 6:

          Lineouts for Season ( won + steals )
          41 (2) Samipeni Finau
          39 (2) Cullen Grace
          31 (1) Brad Shields
          25 (6) TK Howden
          23 (5) Anton Segner
          17 (3) Brayden Iose
          14 (7) Devan Flanders
          14 (3) Cam Christie
          14 (0) Simon Parker
          2 (0) Ethan Blackadder

          Dominant Carry %
          43.1 TK Howden
          39.4 Brayden Iose
          39.2 Simon Parker
          37.2 Cam Christie
          36.1 Samipeni Finau
          35.3 Oliver Haig
          30.8 Anton Segner
          27.1 Cullen Grace
          13.8 Ethan Blackadder

          Gainline %
          71.1 Samipeni Finau
          69.6 Simon Parker
          68.2 Anton Segner
          66.2 TK Howden
          64.7 Oliver Haig
          55.8 Cam Christie
          50.0 Brayden Iose
          48.6 Cullen Grace
          34.1 Ethan Blackadder

          Tackle Evasion %
          15.8 Oliver Haig
          15.1 Samipeni Finau
          14.1 TK Howden
          12.2 Simon Parker
          9.8 Cam Christie
          9.4 Cullen Grace
          9.2 Anton Segner
          2.5 Ethan Blackadder

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

            @African-Monkey by the same strawman token, I'm definitely not convinced EB dominated them either. And yeah I'm guessing the rest of the ABs should be crusaders too, since they dominated their opposites. Give them credit man!

            I agree.

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            @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

            @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

            @African-Monkey by the same strawman token, I'm definitely not convinced EB dominated them either. And yeah I'm guessing the rest of the ABs should be crusaders too, since they dominated their opposites. Give them credit man!

            I agree.

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            • B brodean

              @Chris said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

              @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

              @Chris

              He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.

              He's played 6 and 7 last year.

              Grace covered 7 as well it was not always a swap to 7.

              Ok let's do 6:

              Lineouts for Season ( won + steals )
              41 (2) Samipeni Finau
              39 (2) Cullen Grace
              31 (1) Brad Shields
              25 (6) TK Howden
              23 (5) Anton Segner
              17 (3) Brayden Iose
              14 (7) Devan Flanders
              14 (3) Cam Christie
              14 (0) Simon Parker
              2 (0) Ethan Blackadder

              Dominant Carry %
              43.1 TK Howden
              39.4 Brayden Iose
              39.2 Simon Parker
              37.2 Cam Christie
              36.1 Samipeni Finau
              35.3 Oliver Haig
              30.8 Anton Segner
              27.1 Cullen Grace
              13.8 Ethan Blackadder

              Gainline %
              71.1 Samipeni Finau
              69.6 Simon Parker
              68.2 Anton Segner
              66.2 TK Howden
              64.7 Oliver Haig
              55.8 Cam Christie
              50.0 Brayden Iose
              48.6 Cullen Grace
              34.1 Ethan Blackadder

              Tackle Evasion %
              15.8 Oliver Haig
              15.1 Samipeni Finau
              14.1 TK Howden
              12.2 Simon Parker
              9.8 Cam Christie
              9.4 Cullen Grace
              9.2 Anton Segner
              2.5 Ethan Blackadder

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              @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

              @Chris said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

              @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

              @Chris

              He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.

              He's played 6 and 7 last year.

              Grace covered 7 as well it was not always a swap to 7.

              Ok let's do 6:

              Lineouts for Season ( won + steals )
              41 (2) Samipeni Finau
              39 (2) Cullen Grace
              31 (1) Brad Shields
              25 (6) TK Howden
              23 (5) Anton Segner
              17 (3) Brayden Iose
              14 (7) Devan Flanders
              14 (3) Cam Christie
              14 (0) Simon Parker
              2 (0) Ethan Blackadder

              Dominant Carry %
              43.1 TK Howden
              39.4 Brayden Iose
              39.2 Simon Parker
              37.2 Cam Christie
              36.1 Samipeni Finau
              35.3 Oliver Haig
              30.8 Anton Segner
              27.1 Cullen Grace
              13.8 Ethan Blackadder

              Gainline %
              71.1 Samipeni Finau
              69.6 Simon Parker
              68.2 Anton Segner
              66.2 TK Howden
              64.7 Oliver Haig
              55.8 Cam Christie
              50.0 Brayden Iose
              48.6 Cullen Grace
              34.1 Ethan Blackadder

              Tackle Evasion %
              15.8 Oliver Haig
              15.1 Samipeni Finau
              14.1 TK Howden
              12.2 Simon Parker
              9.8 Cam Christie
              9.4 Cullen Grace
              9.2 Anton Segner
              2.5 Ethan Blackadder

              TK Howden looks good on the stats page.

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              • ChrisC Chris

                @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                @Chris said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                @Chris

                He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.

                He's played 6 and 7 last year.

                Grace covered 7 as well it was not always a swap to 7.

                Ok let's do 6:

                Lineouts for Season ( won + steals )
                41 (2) Samipeni Finau
                39 (2) Cullen Grace
                31 (1) Brad Shields
                25 (6) TK Howden
                23 (5) Anton Segner
                17 (3) Brayden Iose
                14 (7) Devan Flanders
                14 (3) Cam Christie
                14 (0) Simon Parker
                2 (0) Ethan Blackadder

                Dominant Carry %
                43.1 TK Howden
                39.4 Brayden Iose
                39.2 Simon Parker
                37.2 Cam Christie
                36.1 Samipeni Finau
                35.3 Oliver Haig
                30.8 Anton Segner
                27.1 Cullen Grace
                13.8 Ethan Blackadder

                Gainline %
                71.1 Samipeni Finau
                69.6 Simon Parker
                68.2 Anton Segner
                66.2 TK Howden
                64.7 Oliver Haig
                55.8 Cam Christie
                50.0 Brayden Iose
                48.6 Cullen Grace
                34.1 Ethan Blackadder

                Tackle Evasion %
                15.8 Oliver Haig
                15.1 Samipeni Finau
                14.1 TK Howden
                12.2 Simon Parker
                9.8 Cam Christie
                9.4 Cullen Grace
                9.2 Anton Segner
                2.5 Ethan Blackadder

                TK Howden looks good on the stats page.

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                @Chris encouragingly, Finau looks very good.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @Chris encouragingly, Finau looks very good.

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                  @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                  @Chris encouragingly, Finau looks very good.

                  Yes on stats he does I hope it transfers to real impact at test level.

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                    Contact Involvements Per 80 minutes ( Carries + Rucks + Tackles)
                    72.07 Ethan Blackadder
                    51.86 Cullen Grace
                    48.5 Anton Segner
                    48.33 Brayden Iose
                    48.05 Cam Christie
                    45.37 Simon Parker
                    43.17 TK Howden
                    42.27 Oliver Haig
                    40.0 Samipeni Finau

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                      Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.

                      Sure, but he's is not that small

                      I think it's something else. Coaches of his and EB himself have joked about how unco he is. Too often he gets himself into weak positions going into contact and crumbles/bounces off etc

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                      @Duluth said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                      @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                      Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.

                      Sure, but he's is not that small

                      I think it's something else. Coaches of his and EB himself have joked about how unco he is. Too often he gets himself into weak positions going into contact and crumbles/bounces off etc

                      Jason Ryan said in an interview ( i think it was the rugby podcast )

                      They want their 6s to be lineout jumpers going forward ,

                      Finau was mentioned as being good in this area ...... and i think it was the same interview where it was mentioned a couple of the locks can play 6 ,

                      I think Jacobson beat him in as the utility

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                      • B brodean

                        Contact Involvements Per 80 minutes ( Carries + Rucks + Tackles)
                        72.07 Ethan Blackadder
                        51.86 Cullen Grace
                        48.5 Anton Segner
                        48.33 Brayden Iose
                        48.05 Cam Christie
                        45.37 Simon Parker
                        43.17 TK Howden
                        42.27 Oliver Haig
                        40.0 Samipeni Finau

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                        @brodean where do you get your stats ?

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @brodean where do you get your stats ?

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                          @Bones https://theanalyst.com/club-rugby-stats and here https://super.rugby/superrugby/match-centre/match-packs/ and sometimes here https://www.rugbypass.com/fixtures/

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                          • C chchfanatic

                            Blackadder and Bell both been training with ABs this week.

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                            @chchfanatic if that’s true then it makes the decision to bring in papali’i even stupider.

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                            • AmberArmyA AmberArmy

                              @chchfanatic if that’s true then it makes the decision to bring in papali’i even stupider.

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                              @AmberArmy said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                              @chchfanatic if that’s true then it makes the decision to bring in papali’i even stupider.

                              I am afraid that it had to happen after there was a United Nations resolution that everyone should move on from "Headbutt-gate".

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                                Choosing Papali'i over Blackadder is the smart choice.

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                  Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.

                                  Sure, but he's is not that small

                                  I think it's something else. Coaches of his and EB himself have joked about how unco he is. Too often he gets himself into weak positions going into contact and crumbles/bounces off etc

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                                  @Duluth said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                  @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                  Blackadder could benefit from adding more muscle and strength to his frame. With his undoubted engine, that would enable him to have more impact in the collision.

                                  Sure, but he's is not that small

                                  I think it's something else. Coaches of his and EB himself have joked about how unco he is. Too often he gets himself into weak positions going into contact and crumbles/bounces off etc

                                  A lot of this you could actually apply to Rieko as well - he is a more than willing ball carrier but for a big man he goes to ground after initial contact a hell of a lot. Especially since his breakout first couple of years - my sense is that coaches have worked out where to target him as a ball carrier.

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    @Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                    @Tim said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                    @Landers92 How about off the bench in game 2, or a start in game 3? Seems that lineout and defense are his best areas.

                                    Wasn’t aware he was talking about game 1. I’m sure they have a plan for these newbies, feels like the days of throwing players to the wolves doesn’t really happen anymore.

                                    But is playing against this French side in a home series really the wolves? I don’t think so. Sure every test match is a ‘test’, but this series presents an ideal opportunity to see some of the less experienced players along side experienced ABs and what they can do.

                                    I would love to see a number of them start.

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                                    @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                    @Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                    @Tim said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                    @Landers92 How about off the bench in game 2, or a start in game 3? Seems that lineout and defense are his best areas.

                                    Wasn’t aware he was talking about game 1. I’m sure they have a plan for these newbies, feels like the days of throwing players to the wolves doesn’t really happen anymore.

                                    But is playing against this French side in a home series really the wolves? I don’t think so. Sure every test match is a ‘test’, but this series presents an ideal opportunity to see some of the less experienced players along side experienced ABs and what they can do.

                                    I would love to see a number of them start.

                                    I never said throwing them to the French was the wolves? I meant in general. I completely agree with your statement.

                                    I want Razor to go away from his comfort/safe picks and start thinking about the 2027 World Cup.

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                                    • B brodean

                                      @Chris said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                      @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                      @Chris

                                      He played 6 and 7 though didn't he? Christie came off and Grace came on. Blackadder shuffled to 7.

                                      He's played 6 and 7 last year.

                                      Grace covered 7 as well it was not always a swap to 7.

                                      Ok let's do 6:

                                      Lineouts for Season ( won + steals )
                                      41 (2) Samipeni Finau
                                      39 (2) Cullen Grace
                                      31 (1) Brad Shields
                                      25 (6) TK Howden
                                      23 (5) Anton Segner
                                      17 (3) Brayden Iose
                                      14 (7) Devan Flanders
                                      14 (3) Cam Christie
                                      14 (0) Simon Parker
                                      2 (0) Ethan Blackadder

                                      Dominant Carry %
                                      43.1 TK Howden
                                      39.4 Brayden Iose
                                      39.2 Simon Parker
                                      37.2 Cam Christie
                                      36.1 Samipeni Finau
                                      35.3 Oliver Haig
                                      30.8 Anton Segner
                                      27.1 Cullen Grace
                                      13.8 Ethan Blackadder

                                      Gainline %
                                      71.1 Samipeni Finau
                                      69.6 Simon Parker
                                      68.2 Anton Segner
                                      66.2 TK Howden
                                      64.7 Oliver Haig
                                      55.8 Cam Christie
                                      50.0 Brayden Iose
                                      48.6 Cullen Grace
                                      34.1 Ethan Blackadder

                                      Tackle Evasion %
                                      15.8 Oliver Haig
                                      15.1 Samipeni Finau
                                      14.1 TK Howden
                                      12.2 Simon Parker
                                      9.8 Cam Christie
                                      9.4 Cullen Grace
                                      9.2 Anton Segner
                                      2.5 Ethan Blackadder

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                                      Ok let's do 6:

                                      Lineouts for Season ( won + steals )
                                      41 (2) Samipeni Finau
                                      39 (2) Cullen Grace
                                      31 (1) Brad Shields
                                      25 (6) TK Howden
                                      23 (5) Anton Segner
                                      17 (3) Brayden Iose
                                      14 (7) Devan Flanders
                                      14 (3) Cam Christie
                                      14 (0) Simon Parker
                                      2 (0) Ethan Blackadder

                                      Dominant Carry %
                                      43.1 TK Howden
                                      39.4 Brayden Iose
                                      39.2 Simon Parker
                                      37.2 Cam Christie
                                      36.1 Samipeni Finau
                                      35.3 Oliver Haig
                                      30.8 Anton Segner
                                      27.1 Cullen Grace
                                      13.8 Ethan Blackadder

                                      Gainline %
                                      71.1 Samipeni Finau
                                      69.6 Simon Parker
                                      68.2 Anton Segner
                                      66.2 TK Howden
                                      64.7 Oliver Haig
                                      55.8 Cam Christie
                                      50.0 Brayden Iose
                                      48.6 Cullen Grace
                                      34.1 Ethan Blackadder

                                      Tackle Evasion %
                                      15.8 Oliver Haig
                                      15.1 Samipeni Finau
                                      14.1 TK Howden
                                      12.2 Simon Parker
                                      9.8 Cam Christie
                                      9.4 Cullen Grace
                                      9.2 Anton Segner
                                      2.5 Ethan Blackadder

                                      Kid's going to be very good.

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                                        A couple of key stat metrics aligning for Parker and what I’d love to see as an impact bench 6.

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                                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                          A couple of key stat metrics aligning for Parker and what I’d love to see as an impact bench 6.

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                                          @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                          A couple of key stat metrics aligning for Parker and what I’d love to see as an impact bench 6.

                                          Finau, Parker, Howden all jump out.
                                          If they don’t bring Parker in post injury, it might be a shame that they didn’t look at Howden here.

                                          I really really like the 6 lineout steals, that signifies real ability in the air, maybe a bit of Jono Gibbs’s about him?

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