2025 All Blacks v France series
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@ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
williams,newell and sititi carryed injurys into final.none should have played
To be fair Williams came off in the 55th minute and sat on the sideline in no apparent discomfort - did not ice or elevate his knee which was strapped. Participated in the celebrations. So I don't think the final exacerbated the injury.
I think a torn meniscus can be repaired without surgery but he is erring on the side of caution by having surgery. This might be one of those occasions where playing was the right thing to do as is opting for the surgery.
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Exciting times, aren't they?. Wanted change, well, .......it looks like it might be here. Hopefully, the "stagnant years" are gone, and the ABs start innovating again.
If BB starts and we go headless-chook, inside 22, chip-kicky again....... Well, I will have a bottle or two of red handy just in case.@Old-Samurai-Jack said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Exciting times, aren't they?. Wanted change, well, .......it looks like it might be here. Hopefully, the "stagnant years" are gone, and the ABs start innovating again.
If BB starts and we go headless-chook, inside 22, chip-kicky again....... Well, I will have a bottle or two of red handy just in case.@Kruse will be a big fan of this post
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Sounds like Razor won a bet for saying the word sing or singing at least 4 times in an interview.
Wanting to play with pace, great to hear that.
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@ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
williams,newell and sititi carryed injurys into final.none should have played
Disagree. I'm glad they played. It was a final. Super Rugby needs to be important. It's not just a trial for test rugby.
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@canefan said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Duluth said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
He uses a lot of hairspray to keep that combover in place
https://media.tenor.com/Mv5L2_Hr630AAAA1/bill-murray-kingpin.webp
Razor better get his selections right and the team better gel or else they could get Munsoned vs this inexperienced French side.
@MN5 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@canefan said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Duluth said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
He uses a lot of hairspray to keep that combover in place
https://media.tenor.com/Mv5L2_Hr630AAAA1/bill-murray-kingpin.webp
Razor better get his selections right and the team better gel or else they could get Munsoned vs this inexperienced French side.
I just hope he and the ABs don't get complacent. There's a lot of depth in French rugby and this side could well be tough opponents.
That said, a close-fought series where we blood new player/combinations would be exactly what's needed.
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@MN5 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@canefan said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Duluth said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
He uses a lot of hairspray to keep that combover in place
https://media.tenor.com/Mv5L2_Hr630AAAA1/bill-murray-kingpin.webp
Razor better get his selections right and the team better gel or else they could get Munsoned vs this inexperienced French side.
I just hope he and the ABs don't get complacent. There's a lot of depth in French rugby and this side could well be tough opponents.
That said, a close-fought series where we blood new player/combinations would be exactly what's needed.
@Victor-Meldrew said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@MN5 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@canefan said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Duluth said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
He uses a lot of hairspray to keep that combover in place
https://media.tenor.com/Mv5L2_Hr630AAAA1/bill-murray-kingpin.webp
Razor better get his selections right and the team better gel or else they could get Munsoned vs this inexperienced French side.
I just hope he and the ABs don't get complacent. There's a lot of depth in French rugby and this side could well be tough opponents.
That said, a close-fought series where we blood new player/combinations would be exactly what's needed.
The key will be to strike early but make sure there's enough spare players who are fit and ready to go.
7-10 will be crucial. I just hope the players are in the right frame of mind.
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@ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
williams,newell and sititi carryed injurys into final.none should have played
Disagree. I'm glad they played. It was a final. Super Rugby needs to be important. It's not just a trial for test rugby.
@KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
williams,newell and sititi carryed injurys into final.none should have played
Disagree. I'm glad they played. It was a final. Super Rugby needs to be important. It's not just a trial for test rugby.
I'm in two minds on it, and my opinion reflects that.
I think Super rugby needs them out there.
But, if the medical staff would have held them back if the team had another week, they shouldn't be out there. Especially in William's and Sititi's case, where the back-ups can do a job.
The NBA finals showed what happens when you gamble with your body.
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Unavailable due to injury:
Asafo Aumua;
Ofa Tu’ungafasi;
Sam Darry;
Peter Lakai;
Stephen Perofeta.
...
Tamaiti Williams
Fletcher Newell
Wallace Sititi
Luke JacobsonSo, by my calcs, we're 9 down. Any I'm missing?
How many are the Frogs missing?
Throw in
Lord
Blackadder (maybe) -
Unavailable due to injury:
Asafo Aumua;
Ofa Tu’ungafasi;
Sam Darry;
Peter Lakai;
Stephen Perofeta.
...
Tamaiti Williams
Fletcher Newell
Wallace Sititi
Luke JacobsonSo, by my calcs, we're 9 down. Any I'm missing?
How many are the Frogs missing?
Throw in
Lord
Blackadder (maybe)@booboo said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Unavailable due to injury:
Asafo Aumua;
Ofa Tu’ungafasi;
Sam Darry;
Peter Lakai;
Stephen Perofeta.
...
Tamaiti Williams
Fletcher Newell
Wallace Sititi
Luke JacobsonSo, by my calcs, we're 9 down. Any I'm missing?
How many are the Frogs missing?
Throw in
Lord
Blackadder (maybe)Is Anton Lienert Brown available?
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@KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
williams,newell and sititi carryed injurys into final.none should have played
Disagree. I'm glad they played. It was a final. Super Rugby needs to be important. It's not just a trial for test rugby.
I'm in two minds on it, and my opinion reflects that.
I think Super rugby needs them out there.
But, if the medical staff would have held them back if the team had another week, they shouldn't be out there. Especially in William's and Sititi's case, where the back-ups can do a job.
The NBA finals showed what happens when you gamble with your body.
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@booboo said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Unavailable due to injury:
Asafo Aumua;
Ofa Tu’ungafasi;
Sam Darry;
Peter Lakai;
Stephen Perofeta.
...
Tamaiti Williams
Fletcher Newell
Wallace Sititi
Luke JacobsonSo, by my calcs, we're 9 down. Any I'm missing?
How many are the Frogs missing?
Throw in
Lord
Blackadder (maybe)Is Anton Lienert Brown available?
@nonpartizan said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Is Anton Lienert Brown available?
He participated in full contact training on Sat and should be available for selection soon. I'd say the 2nd or 3rd test is more likely.
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@pakman said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
I couldn't bring myself to listen to more than 10 seconds of these two but Ioane on the wing sounds ok to me. More compelling than an out of sorts Clarke and a short, slow Reece.
@MN5 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@pakman said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
I couldn't bring myself to listen to more than 10 seconds of these two but Ioane on the wing sounds ok to me. More compelling than an out of sorts Clarke and a short, slow Reece.
The optimism over Rieko on the wing is doing my head in. Sure, maybe he'd go great, but it has been years since he played there, it's a position where players fall off cliffs at a young age, and he hasn't been displaying elusiveness or pace while playing at centre. It's in no way a sure thing, or even a good bet.
Caleb Clarke on the other hand, was genuinely good at international level last time the ABs played. -
@MN5 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@pakman said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
I couldn't bring myself to listen to more than 10 seconds of these two but Ioane on the wing sounds ok to me. More compelling than an out of sorts Clarke and a short, slow Reece.
The optimism over Rieko on the wing is doing my head in. Sure, maybe he'd go great, but it has been years since he played there, it's a position where players fall off cliffs at a young age, and he hasn't been displaying elusiveness or pace while playing at centre. It's in no way a sure thing, or even a good bet.
Caleb Clarke on the other hand, was genuinely good at international level last time the ABs played.@reprobate I have similar concerns, when you look at the old footage of reiko playing wing , his pace looks electrifying, I’m not sure he’s got that anymore.
It might be like Julian savea or Joe rok in their twilight years compared to the early years . -
Doubt he's lost much pace at all. I'd say he's still top 3 for pace in the squad.
The team that was selected for most of the games last year I believe was Razors preferred combo. He had many opportunities to select both ALB and Proctor more last year and he didn't.
Proctor didn't even feature in the match day 23 in Europe. ALB is coming back from injury. Every other midfielder is primarily a 12.
So I think Rieko is still in pole position to play most of the season at 13.
