Final - Crusaders v Chiefs
-
@No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.
Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.
I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?
@booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.
Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.
I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?
The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.
It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.
-
@booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.
Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.
I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?
The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.
It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.
@ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.
Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.
I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?
The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.
It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.
We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.
-
@ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.
Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.
I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?
The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.
It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.
We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.
@Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.
Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.
I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?
The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.
It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.
We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.
You still can I watched the NZ commentary on Stan it was there.
-
@Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.
Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.
I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?
The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.
It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.
We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.
You still can I watched the NZ commentary on Stan it was there.
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.
Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.
I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?
The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.
It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.
We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.
You still can I watched the NZ commentary on Stan it was there.
Bugger. I looked but couldn't see it.
-
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.
Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.
I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?
The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.
It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.
We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.
You still can I watched the NZ commentary on Stan it was there.
Bugger. I looked but couldn't see it.
@Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.
Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.
I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?
The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.
It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.
We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.
You still can I watched the NZ commentary on Stan it was there.
Bugger. I looked but couldn't see it.
Yeah it’s still there mate
-
@Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.
Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.
I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?
The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.
It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.
We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.
You still can I watched the NZ commentary on Stan it was there.
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.
Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.
I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?
The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.
It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.
We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.
You still can I watched the NZ commentary on Stan it was there.
Out of interest, and anticipating upcoming Bledisloes, how?
-
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.
Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.
I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?
The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.
It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.
We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.
You still can I watched the NZ commentary on Stan it was there.
Out of interest, and anticipating upcoming Bledisloes, how?
@booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.
Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.
I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?
The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.
It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.
We used to be able to opt for NZ commentary. Not sure what happened to that.
You still can I watched the NZ commentary on Stan it was there.
Out of interest, and anticipating upcoming Bledisloes, how?
If you click on the rugby tag it normally comes up in up coming live rugby or replays it just reads NZ coverage.
I have premier Stan costs me $38 I am not sure if there are cheaper packages with less options. -
@booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.
Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.
I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?
The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.
It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.
@ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@booboo said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@No-Quarter said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I missed the game due to family commitments, just caught the highlights, and want to offer Chiefs fans my commiserations for having to endure both TJ and Justin Marshall in the commentary box for that one.
Would rather TJ and Justin than the Aussie rabble we got.
I don't mind Maloney as a commentator but was it 100% necessary to have Aus comms for an all NZ game?
The Stan / Ch9 contract includes the OZ based team covering final so they had to do it any way regardless of who was playing.
It wasn’t great because it was really hollow plus it came across very early in the game broadcast that they weren’t at the ground.
I didn't care, NZ or Oz commentary is generally as shit as each other.
-
Even more of a Hugh performance by Fletcher Newell going the whole 80 minutes considering he played the whole game with a grade-two MCL injury.
He injured his knee in the Blues SF.
Probably will put Newell out of the French series.@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Even more of a Hugh performance by Fletcher Newell going the whole 80 minutes considering he played the whole game with a grade-two MCL injury.
He injured his knee in the Blues SF.
Probably will put Newell out of the French series. Bugger! -
I still like Norris as a running prop off the bench. I wonder if the Chiefs locks are good at supporting in the scrum. Compared to Crusaders locks anyway.
@nostrildamus said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I still like Norris as a running prop off the bench. I wonder if the Chiefs locks are good at supporting in the scrum. Compared to Crusaders locks anyway.
I think the starters were fine. Norris is a tall LH, and once Angus made it clear he'd penalise the scrum dropping I suspect Newell drove down with his right shoulder and bought penalties. Sami tried to explain to Angus but he wasn't listening.
Fusitua has totally secure before Scooter's flying head butt took him out.
-
Well I'm bloody gutted to say the least. I thought the first half was pretty well fought and grand final worthy. The second half was played a little too safe especially from the Chiefs. They all went inside their shells. Maybe we need to have a few years where we don't make it past the QFs to take the pressure off and have a full reset? I dunno man but 3 grand final losses in 3 years stings. Deserved Crusaders victory nonetheless. I thought Gardner was great on the whistle bar the one high shot called on Dmac which was shoulder on shoulder.
Always my team of course but man I'm gutted. Up the Chiefs. Well done to the Crusaders.
-
Well I'm bloody gutted to say the least. I thought the first half was pretty well fought and grand final worthy. The second half was played a little too safe especially from the Chiefs. They all went inside their shells. Maybe we need to have a few years where we don't make it past the QFs to take the pressure off and have a full reset? I dunno man but 3 grand final losses in 3 years stings. Deserved Crusaders victory nonetheless. I thought Gardner was great on the whistle bar the one high shot called on Dmac which was shoulder on shoulder.
Always my team of course but man I'm gutted. Up the Chiefs. Well done to the Crusaders.
@Yeetyaah said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Well I'm bloody gutted to say the least. I thought the first half was pretty well fought and grand final worthy. The second half was played a little too safe especially from the Chiefs. They all went inside their shells. Maybe we need to have a few years where we don't make it past the QFs to take the pressure off and have a full reset? I dunno man but 3 grand final losses in 3 years stings. Deserved Crusaders victory nonetheless. I thought Gardner was great on the whistle bar the one high shot called on Dmac which was shoulder on shoulder.
Always my team of course but man I'm gutted. Up the Chiefs. Well done to the Crusaders.
I agree with you; the Chiefs definitely went into their shells in that second half but some of that was down to the Crusader's ability to shut down anything the Chiefs threw at them. In saying that, the Chiefs kicked the ball away far too much.
The Chiefs have put teams to the sword this year by chancing their arm in all areas of the park and backing themselves through their flare. We rarely saw that on Saturday and I think a big part of that was the Crusader's tactic of targeting DMac early with a few tough shots, he seemed to lose all of his confidence after getting smoked, which then impacted the rest of the backline because he then became a lot more hesitant in his decision making.
-
@Yeetyaah said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Well I'm bloody gutted to say the least. I thought the first half was pretty well fought and grand final worthy. The second half was played a little too safe especially from the Chiefs. They all went inside their shells. Maybe we need to have a few years where we don't make it past the QFs to take the pressure off and have a full reset? I dunno man but 3 grand final losses in 3 years stings. Deserved Crusaders victory nonetheless. I thought Gardner was great on the whistle bar the one high shot called on Dmac which was shoulder on shoulder.
Always my team of course but man I'm gutted. Up the Chiefs. Well done to the Crusaders.
I agree with you; the Chiefs definitely went into their shells in that second half but some of that was down to the Crusader's ability to shut down anything the Chiefs threw at them. In saying that, the Chiefs kicked the ball away far too much.
The Chiefs have put teams to the sword this year by chancing their arm in all areas of the park and backing themselves through their flare. We rarely saw that on Saturday and I think a big part of that was the Crusader's tactic of targeting DMac early with a few tough shots, he seemed to lose all of his confidence after getting smoked, which then impacted the rest of the backline because he then became a lot more hesitant in his decision making.
@Canes4life said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Yeetyaah said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Well I'm bloody gutted to say the least. I thought the first half was pretty well fought and grand final worthy. The second half was played a little too safe especially from the Chiefs. They all went inside their shells. Maybe we need to have a few years where we don't make it past the QFs to take the pressure off and have a full reset? I dunno man but 3 grand final losses in 3 years stings. Deserved Crusaders victory nonetheless. I thought Gardner was great on the whistle bar the one high shot called on Dmac which was shoulder on shoulder.
Always my team of course but man I'm gutted. Up the Chiefs. Well done to the Crusaders.
I agree with you; the Chiefs definitely went into their shells in that second half but some of that was down to the Crusader's ability to shut down anything the Chiefs threw at them. In saying that, the Chiefs kicked the ball away far too much.
The Chiefs have put teams to the sword this year by chancing their arm in all areas of the park and backing themselves through their flare. We rarely saw that on Saturday and I think a big part of that was the Crusader's tactic of targeting DMac early with a few tough shots, he seemed to lose all of his confidence after getting smoked, which then impacted the rest of the backline because he then became a lot more hesitant in his decision making.
I think it's (poor) tactics. They went away from the way they had played all season against the Blues, picking big loosies and trying to power up and play through the middle, and lost. Then they reverted to form a bit against the Brumbies and won, then went into their shell against the Crusaders - turning it into a high kick battle - and lost. Talk about playing straight to opposition teams' strengths.
-
-
Watched the game cold. First half felt great and it just needed something to make it explode but it never came. Might be fair to say Clayton was out-coached as Saders played it on their terms only.
Chiefs surely knew DMac would be targeted early and often (and late!) so should have had something up their sleeve.
Crunch minute errors killed them: 68 giveaway pass by Carter, 69 Piss weak aerial from ENS and Jordan kicks on, 70 Jacomb drops it, 73 lose line out while on TV replay, 74 Reihana and Jordan back to back massive aerial wins, 77 - very weird move off the scrum that looked preplanned but not executed and goes into touch.
I’d say they lost the final a couple of weeks ago though.
-
@brodean said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I can't stand Justin Marshall. I'd rather have the sound off than listen to him.
I keep asking Stan to provide a commentary feed free.
-
Even more of a Hugh performance by Fletcher Newell going the whole 80 minutes considering he played the whole game with a grade-two MCL injury.
He injured his knee in the Blues SF.
Probably will put Newell out of the French series.@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Even more of a Hugh performance by Fletcher Newell going the whole 80 minutes considering he played the whole game with a grade-two MCL injury.
He injured his knee in the Blues SF.
Probably will put Newell out of the French series.What a monumentally dumb decision that may turn out to be.
-
Watched the game cold. First half felt great and it just needed something to make it explode but it never came. Might be fair to say Clayton was out-coached as Saders played it on their terms only.
Chiefs surely knew DMac would be targeted early and often (and late!) so should have had something up their sleeve.
Crunch minute errors killed them: 68 giveaway pass by Carter, 69 Piss weak aerial from ENS and Jordan kicks on, 70 Jacomb drops it, 73 lose line out while on TV replay, 74 Reihana and Jordan back to back massive aerial wins, 77 - very weird move off the scrum that looked preplanned but not executed and goes into touch.
I’d say they lost the final a couple of weeks ago though.
@game_film said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Watched the game cold. First half felt great and it just needed something to make it explode but it never came. Might be fair to say Clayton was out-coached as Saders played it on their terms only.
Chiefs surely knew DMac would be targeted early and often (and late!) so should have had something up their sleeve.
Crunch minute errors killed them: 68 giveaway pass by Carter, 69 Piss weak aerial from ENS and Jordan kicks on, 70 Jacomb drops it, 73 lose line out while on TV replay, 74 Reihana and Jordan back to back massive aerial wins, 77 - very weird move off the scrum that looked preplanned but not executed and goes into touch.
I’d say they lost the final a couple of weeks ago though.
Those cold watches are hard, but you see a lot which is missed in the heat of the moment.
-
@Yeetyaah said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Well I'm bloody gutted to say the least. I thought the first half was pretty well fought and grand final worthy. The second half was played a little too safe especially from the Chiefs. They all went inside their shells. Maybe we need to have a few years where we don't make it past the QFs to take the pressure off and have a full reset? I dunno man but 3 grand final losses in 3 years stings. Deserved Crusaders victory nonetheless. I thought Gardner was great on the whistle bar the one high shot called on Dmac which was shoulder on shoulder.
Always my team of course but man I'm gutted. Up the Chiefs. Well done to the Crusaders.
I agree with you; the Chiefs definitely went into their shells in that second half but some of that was down to the Crusader's ability to shut down anything the Chiefs threw at them. In saying that, the Chiefs kicked the ball away far too much.
The Chiefs have put teams to the sword this year by chancing their arm in all areas of the park and backing themselves through their flare. We rarely saw that on Saturday and I think a big part of that was the Crusader's tactic of targeting DMac early with a few tough shots, he seemed to lose all of his confidence after getting smoked, which then impacted the rest of the backline because he then became a lot more hesitant in his decision making.
@Canes4life said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
I agree with you; the Chiefs definitely went into their shells in that second half but some of that was down to the Crusader's ability to shut down anything the Chiefs threw at them. In saying that, the Chiefs kicked the ball away far too much.
The Chiefs have put teams to the sword this year by chancing their arm in all areas of the park and backing themselves through their flare. We rarely saw that on Saturday and I think a big part of that was the Crusader's tactic of targeting DMac early with a few tough shots, he seemed to lose all of his confidence after getting smoked, which then impacted the rest of the backline because he then became a lot more hesitant in his decision making.
Totally agree, Sadders had a plan to negate DMac and it worked. This is the problem I have with DMac starting at 1st five for the ABs, opoition have plans for nuetralising him and if they can keep to the script they can win, haveing him came on latter against tied oposition without a DMac kill script and he blows them away.
Also didn't help the Chief's cause that their scrum, lineout and kick-catch went to shit, they just didn't seem to have an answer and the Sadders kept them pined in their half and were making good over the advantage line progress with no mistakes with their forward drives, with the few times they did gey out of their zone the Sadders didn't fuck around they just kicked it back and put them back under presure.
