Boks vs Wallabies 2
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Christ sake Nick, is there genuinely a Wallaby game you haven't tipped the opposition by 50? Getting tiresome.
We have as good a chance in this as any. We have belief, and the feeling we're playing with house money now.
And I don't know how you can think the loss of Kolisi, Esterhuizen and the benching of Etzebeth is a good thing for the Boks. To me this is a lesser version of their side last week. Which doesn't mean they will lose, but the idea we will get flogged is mindlessly pessimistic.
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Christ sake Nick, is there genuinely a Wallaby game you haven't tipped the opposition by 50? Getting tiresome.
We have as good a chance in this as any. We have belief, and the feeling we're playing with house money now.
And I don't know how you can think the loss of Kolisi, Esterhuizen and the benching of Etzebeth is a good thing for the Boks. To me this is a lesser version of their side last week. Which doesn't mean they will lose, but the idea we will get flogged is mindlessly pessimistic.
@barbarian said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Christ sake Nick, is there genuinely a Wallaby game you haven't tipped the opposition by 50? Getting tiresome.
Pretty sure I said we'd beat Fiji and we nearly fucked that up.
@barbarian said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Which doesn't mean they will lose, but the idea we will get flogged is mindlessly pessimistic.
Call it PTSD.
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That Bok team might not be their best in terms of individuals. Or cohesion as a unit.
However they're going back to the blueprint: kick the skin off it and pressure us up the right end of the park. They won't care if we actually take the high balls - as soon as a toe touches the ground they'll be looking to put in a massive shot and get us gunshy.
There's nothing subtle about a 6-2 bench. The question is whether Schmidt responds in kind.
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10 changes after a loss is crazy, yeah they have a lot of depth but it'll be interesting to see how cohesive they are. Aus will be fired up, 2/2 in SA would be incredible. Might actually get up for this one.
@No-Quarter said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
10 changes after a loss is crazy, yeah they have a lot of depth but it'll be interesting to see how cohesive they are. Aus will be fired up, 2/2 in SA would be incredible. Might actually get up for this one.
Would be the first time since 1963 and to do it without someone of Catchpole's calibre would be immense.
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@voodoo said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@sparky said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Hey Rassie, keep leaving out PSDT please.
he's injured
They seem to have been pretty lucky with injuries to their top side to date, but now him and Kolisi? Jeez
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Christ sake Nick, is there genuinely a Wallaby game you haven't tipped the opposition by 50? Getting tiresome.
We have as good a chance in this as any. We have belief, and the feeling we're playing with house money now.
And I don't know how you can think the loss of Kolisi, Esterhuizen and the benching of Etzebeth is a good thing for the Boks. To me this is a lesser version of their side last week. Which doesn't mean they will lose, but the idea we will get flogged is mindlessly pessimistic.
@barbarian Anyway I already bought tickets for Wallabies v Pumas at the SFS next month, so blow that out your arse :winking_face_with_tongue:
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Christ sake Nick, is there genuinely a Wallaby game you haven't tipped the opposition by 50? Getting tiresome.
We have as good a chance in this as any. We have belief, and the feeling we're playing with house money now.
And I don't know how you can think the loss of Kolisi, Esterhuizen and the benching of Etzebeth is a good thing for the Boks. To me this is a lesser version of their side last week. Which doesn't mean they will lose, but the idea we will get flogged is mindlessly pessimistic.
@barbarian said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Christ sake Nick, is there genuinely a Wallaby game you haven't tipped the opposition by 50? Getting tiresome.
We have as good a chance in this as any. We have belief, and the feeling we're playing with house money now.
And I don't know how you can think the loss of Kolisi, Esterhuizen and the benching of Etzebeth is a good thing for the Boks. To me this is a lesser version of their side last week. Which doesn't mean they will lose, but the idea we will get flogged is mindlessly pessimistic.
One man's overwhelming pessimism is another man's strong jinx game, or defensive mechanism. It's the hope that kills
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@barbarian said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Christ sake Nick, is there genuinely a Wallaby game you haven't tipped the opposition by 50? Getting tiresome.
We have as good a chance in this as any. We have belief, and the feeling we're playing with house money now.
And I don't know how you can think the loss of Kolisi, Esterhuizen and the benching of Etzebeth is a good thing for the Boks. To me this is a lesser version of their side last week. Which doesn't mean they will lose, but the idea we will get flogged is mindlessly pessimistic.
One man's overwhelming pessimism is another man's strong jinx game, or defensive mechanism. It's the hope that kills
@canefan said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
One man's overwhelming pessimism is another man's strong jinx game, or defensive mechanism. It's the hope that kills
I see what you (Canes supporter) did there...
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That Bok team might not be their best in terms of individuals. Or cohesion as a unit.
However they're going back to the blueprint: kick the skin off it and pressure us up the right end of the park. They won't care if we actually take the high balls - as soon as a toe touches the ground they'll be looking to put in a massive shot and get us gunshy.
There's nothing subtle about a 6-2 bench. The question is whether Schmidt responds in kind.
@NTA said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
That Bok team might not be their best in terms of individuals. Or cohesion as a unit.
However they're going back to the blueprint: kick the skin off it and pressure us up the right end of the park. They won't care if we actually take the high balls - as soon as a toe touches the ground they'll be looking to put in a massive shot and get us gunshy.
There's nothing subtle about a 6-2 bench. The question is whether Schmidt responds in kind.
Far better backline
If the fatties can win good, clean, quick ball by taking it up the guts and tying in the Aussie loose forwards then that backline can do some damage
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Love the presentation of that data
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via Reddit:
Fun Fact: since 2019, there have been 8 matches between the 2 sides and both have won 4 each.2021
28 vs 26 
30 vs 17 2022
25 vs 17 8 vs 24 2023
43 vs 12 2024
7 vs 33 12 vs 30 2025
22 vs 38 Total Score:
160 vs 212 Average Score:
20 vs 27 @nzzp said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
via Reddit:
Fun Fact: since 2019, there have been 8 matches between the 2 sides and both have won 4 each.2021
28 vs 26 30 vs 17 2022
25 vs 17 8 vs 24 2023
43 vs 12 2024
7 vs 33 12 vs 30 2025
22 vs 38 Total Score:
160 vs 212 Average Score:
20 vs 27 So Dave Rennie was 3 from 4. Eddie dogshit.
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@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
I reckon Rassie will double down, they'll definitely try and correct the mistake of going too wide too early and will try and commit the aussies around the ruck but i reckon he's too stubborn to change their 'new total rugby' style
This
Doesn't need to change the 'new style', players just need to be patient and focused
If they had done that last weekend it could have been close to 42-0 up and out of sight
If SA improve their accuracy once they've created the space then look out Oz
@MiketheSnow said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
I reckon Rassie will double down, they'll definitely try and correct the mistake of going too wide too early and will try and commit the aussies around the ruck but i reckon he's too stubborn to change their 'new total rugby' style
This
Doesn't need to change the 'new style', players just need to be patient and focused
If they had done that last weekend it could have been close to 42-0 up and out of sight
If SA improve their accuracy once they've created the space then look out Oz
Doubling down on your "Boks should win easily in third gear" prediction from last week?
Fact is, for all the squad depth SA have (and they do), you can only pick 23 players on the day and they still have to perform or they will get turned over. Even at home against an Oz team that was written off by nearly everyone in the Republic. Confidence is a difficult beast to control. AB teams from the past know this when they have played cannon fodder in the world cup pool games only to meet an opponent up for the fight in the knockout stages. You have to earn every win. There's no God given right.
SA isn't as far ahead of the chasing pack (if at all) as some of their supporters believe, which is why the fall to Earth has been so profound this week. They still have a very good team and a great coach.
They will be dangerous this week because they will be desperate to atone for the embarrassment of last week. Not because they lost to Oz (no embarrassment there), but because for the second half they barely looked like they could compete at home and almost looked lost. That will sting. The over-confidence will be gone.
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@MiketheSnow said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
I reckon Rassie will double down, they'll definitely try and correct the mistake of going too wide too early and will try and commit the aussies around the ruck but i reckon he's too stubborn to change their 'new total rugby' style
This
Doesn't need to change the 'new style', players just need to be patient and focused
If they had done that last weekend it could have been close to 42-0 up and out of sight
If SA improve their accuracy once they've created the space then look out Oz
Doubling down on your "Boks should win easily in third gear" prediction from last week?
Fact is, for all the squad depth SA have (and they do), you can only pick 23 players on the day and they still have to perform or they will get turned over. Even at home against an Oz team that was written off by nearly everyone in the Republic. Confidence is a difficult beast to control. AB teams from the past know this when they have played cannon fodder in the world cup pool games only to meet an opponent up for the fight in the knockout stages. You have to earn every win. There's no God given right.
SA isn't as far ahead of the chasing pack (if at all) as some of their supporters believe, which is why the fall to Earth has been so profound this week. They still have a very good team and a great coach.
They will be dangerous this week because they will be desperate to atone for the embarrassment of last week. Not because they lost to Oz (no embarrassment there), but because for the second half they barely looked like they could compete at home and almost looked lost. That will sting. The over-confidence will be gone.
@stodders said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
I reckon Rassie will double down, they'll definitely try and correct the mistake of going too wide too early and will try and commit the aussies around the ruck but i reckon he's too stubborn to change their 'new total rugby' style
This
Doesn't need to change the 'new style', players just need to be patient and focused
If they had done that last weekend it could have been close to 42-0 up and out of sight
If SA improve their accuracy once they've created the space then look out Oz
Doubling down on your "Boks should win easily in third gear" prediction from last week?
Fact is, for all the squad depth SA have (and they do), you can only pick 23 players on the day and they still have to perform or they will get turned over. Even at home against an Oz team that was written off by nearly everyone in the Republic. Confidence is a difficult beast to control. AB teams from the past know this when they have played cannon fodder in the world cup pool games only to meet an opponent up for the fight in the knockout stages. You have to earn every win. There's no God given right.
SA isn't as far ahead of the chasing pack (if at all) as some of their supporters believe, which is why the fall to Earth has been so profound this week. They still have a very good team and a great coach.
They will be dangerous this week because they will be desperate to atone for the embarrassment of last week. Not because they lost to Oz (no embarrassment there), but because for the second half they barely looked like they could compete at home and almost looked lost. That will sting. The over-confidence will be gone.
Yep
That was a great comeback from Australia helped by some really ropey refereeing and dumb, dumb SA attack play
This weekend if SA play smart rugby and execute the game plan they’ll win by a greater margin than OZ did last week
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