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All Blacks v Springboks I

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    I thought Ennor's big improvements in super this year was his heads up play and handling. Carry on in that manner and he could get up to half a dozen games before being discarded because he didn't look to the manor born.

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      I thought Ennor's big improvements in super this year was his heads up play and handling. Carry on in that manner and he could get up to half a dozen games before being discarded because he didn't look to the manor born.

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      @Bones said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

      I thought Ennor's big improvements in super this year was his heads up play and handling. Carry on in that manner and he could get up to half a dozen games before being discarded because he didn't look to the manor born.

      Yeah, if we have to pick a Crusader centre it would be Ennor for me. I once described him as a poor man's Rieko, but he has looked an improved player the last couple of years.

      As for big LF, when he left he couldn't pass for shit. Has that changed?

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      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

        @Bones said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

        I thought Ennor's big improvements in super this year was his heads up play and handling. Carry on in that manner and he could get up to half a dozen games before being discarded because he didn't look to the manor born.

        Yeah, if we have to pick a Crusader centre it would be Ennor for me. I once described him as a poor man's Rieko, but he has looked an improved player the last couple of years.

        As for big LF, when he left he couldn't pass for shit. Has that changed?

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        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

        @Bones said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

        I thought Ennor's big improvements in super this year was his heads up play and handling. Carry on in that manner and he could get up to half a dozen games before being discarded because he didn't look to the manor born.

        Yeah, if we have to pick a Crusader centre it would be Ennor for me. I once described him as a poor man's Rieko, but he has looked an improved player the last couple of years.

        As for big LF, when he left he couldn't pass for shit. Has that changed?

        He'll fit right in then!

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        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

          @Bones said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

          I thought Ennor's big improvements in super this year was his heads up play and handling. Carry on in that manner and he could get up to half a dozen games before being discarded because he didn't look to the manor born.

          Yeah, if we have to pick a Crusader centre it would be Ennor for me. I once described him as a poor man's Rieko, but he has looked an improved player the last couple of years.

          As for big LF, when he left he couldn't pass for shit. Has that changed?

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          @Crazy-Horse thought he was looking quite rapid this year too.

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          • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

            @Bones said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

            I thought Ennor's big improvements in super this year was his heads up play and handling. Carry on in that manner and he could get up to half a dozen games before being discarded because he didn't look to the manor born.

            Yeah, if we have to pick a Crusader centre it would be Ennor for me. I once described him as a poor man's Rieko, but he has looked an improved player the last couple of years.

            As for big LF, when he left he couldn't pass for shit. Has that changed?

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            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

            As for big LF, when he left he couldn't pass for shit

            Not a skill required for the ABs. No problem.

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              Yeah agreed on Ennor - thought he had by far his best season. I would welcome.him into the squad.

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                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                @KiwiMurph i wonder if the Boks will kick to us?

                Well it's not like we didn't also miss an absolute shitload of tackles... making it a tough choice for them to run it or kick it.
                Bit of a masterstroke really, they won't know what to do.

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                @reprobate said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                @KiwiMurph i wonder if the Boks will kick to us?

                Well it's not like we didn't also miss an absolute shitload of tackles... making it a tough choice for them to run it or kick it.
                Bit of a masterstroke really, they won't know what to do.

                Boks missed a lot of tackles against the Aussies on the weekend as well - 30. In terms of overall tackle completion, their rate was lower than the ABs.

                Both teams were guilty of a passive defensive line through decent periods. They took and made their kicks.

                This points to another problem with that match - fat too much defending and in the wrong end of he park. It was taking its toll and put huge pressure on us for long periods.

                Against the Boks if we can get down our end I think they are vulnerable defensively too.

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                • FrankF Frank

                  @junior said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                  This is primarily the result of how this and the last regime structured their backline attack and also the two blokes inside him who can’t pass for shit either.

                  Yeah, his lack of distribution skill is the fault of every coach and every player that has ever played inside him. Nothing to do with him at all............

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                  @Frank said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                  @junior said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                  This is primarily the result of how this and the last regime structured their backline attack and also the two blokes inside him who can’t pass for shit either.

                  Yeah, his lack of distribution skill is the fault of every coach and every player that has ever played inside him. Nothing to do with him at all............

                  Way to take one sentence from my post, remove all context, and miss the point completely.

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                    #168

                    Skilful by @Frank!

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                      Going to be interesting,

                      Before the Argie 2 game ,I honestly thought we might be on a upwards trajectory mainly due to the forwards , tight 5 in particular. Then we served up that pile of dog shit where it feels like any progress all came undone .

                      I suspect Rassie will target that tight 5 and holland in particular to see if he can find a chink and a barrage of high balls are coming our way , if we play the same back 3 I think we are in trouble.

                      If Clarke isn’t ready , I’d play love ( he’s 24 now if he’s not ready yet when is he ready ? ) at 15 Jordan at 14 , can narawa play 11 .? What is carter like under the high ball ?

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                        Preston withdrawn from NPC.

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                          Boks arrived nice and early been in NZ for almost 2 days already.

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                            Preston withdrawn from NPC.

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                            @booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                            Preston withdrawn from NPC.

                            Roigard not ready.

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                              That's a worry. Not happy about needing a guy who has played what 3/4 of a super season, and looked to be struggling with the pressure off the bench in the final.

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                                @booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                Preston withdrawn from NPC.

                                Roigard not ready.

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                                @Frank said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                @booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                Preston withdrawn from NPC.

                                Roigard not ready.

                                Any word on Ratima's injury? Could be related to that too.

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  @Nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                  @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                  @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                  Anton Lienert-Brown is probably the best distributing centre in NZ - just saying...

                                  When he's not in the bin?

                                  See, none of our contenders are perfect, ALB can't stay on the field, Rieko can't pass and Proctor can't walk on water defend. πŸ˜‰

                                  And Leicester is laughing

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                                  brodean
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                                  @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                  @Nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                  @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                  @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                  Anton Lienert-Brown is probably the best distributing centre in NZ - just saying...

                                  When he's not in the bin?

                                  See, none of our contenders are perfect, ALB can't stay on the field, Rieko can't pass and Proctor can't walk on water defend. πŸ˜‰

                                  And Leicester is laughing

                                  @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                  @Nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                  @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                  @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                  Anton Lienert-Brown is probably the best distributing centre in NZ - just saying...

                                  When he's not in the bin?

                                  See, none of our contenders are perfect, ALB can't stay on the field, Rieko can't pass and Proctor can't walk on water defend. πŸ˜‰

                                  And Leicester is laughing

                                  Leicester is an even worse defender than Proctor.

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    Yeah agreed on Ennor - thought he had by far his best season. I would welcome.him into the squad.

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                                    brodean
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                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                    Yeah agreed on Ennor - thought he had by far his best season. I would welcome.him into the squad.

                                    He drops the ball cold in front of the line every season. He's a butterfly fingers.

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                                      @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      @Nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      Anton Lienert-Brown is probably the best distributing centre in NZ - just saying...

                                      When he's not in the bin?

                                      See, none of our contenders are perfect, ALB can't stay on the field, Rieko can't pass and Proctor can't walk on water defend. πŸ˜‰

                                      And Leicester is laughing

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      @Nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      Anton Lienert-Brown is probably the best distributing centre in NZ - just saying...

                                      When he's not in the bin?

                                      See, none of our contenders are perfect, ALB can't stay on the field, Rieko can't pass and Proctor can't walk on water defend. πŸ˜‰

                                      And Leicester is laughing

                                      Leicester is an even worse defender than Proctor.

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                                      @brodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      @Nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      Anton Lienert-Brown is probably the best distributing centre in NZ - just saying...

                                      When he's not in the bin?

                                      See, none of our contenders are perfect, ALB can't stay on the field, Rieko can't pass and Proctor can't walk on water defend. πŸ˜‰

                                      And Leicester is laughing

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      @Nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      Anton Lienert-Brown is probably the best distributing centre in NZ - just saying...

                                      When he's not in the bin?

                                      See, none of our contenders are perfect, ALB can't stay on the field, Rieko can't pass and Proctor can't walk on water defend. πŸ˜‰

                                      And Leicester is laughing

                                      Leicester is an even worse defender than Proctor.

                                      Amen, anyone who saw him in games in top 14 should tell you thst.
                                      Then read his stats, really backs it up. Couple of games I saw, he didn't even look interested in tackling anyone who didn't rub directly at him.

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                                        @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        Anton Lienert-Brown is probably the best distributing centre in NZ - just saying...

                                        When he's not in the bin?

                                        See, none of our contenders are perfect, ALB can't stay on the field, Rieko can't pass and Proctor can't walk on water defend. πŸ˜‰

                                        And Leicester is laughing

                                        @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        Anton Lienert-Brown is probably the best distributing centre in NZ - just saying...

                                        When he's not in the bin?

                                        See, none of our contenders are perfect, ALB can't stay on the field, Rieko can't pass and Proctor can't walk on water defend. πŸ˜‰

                                        And Leicester is laughing

                                        Leicester is an even worse defender than Proctor.

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                                        @brodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        Anton Lienert-Brown is probably the best distributing centre in NZ - just saying...

                                        When he's not in the bin?

                                        See, none of our contenders are perfect, ALB can't stay on the field, Rieko can't pass and Proctor can't walk on water defend. πŸ˜‰

                                        And Leicester is laughing

                                        @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                        Anton Lienert-Brown is probably the best distributing centre in NZ - just saying...

                                        When he's not in the bin?

                                        See, none of our contenders are perfect, ALB can't stay on the field, Rieko can't pass and Proctor can't walk on water defend. πŸ˜‰

                                        And Leicester is laughing

                                        Leicester is an even worse defender than Proctor.

                                        Someone has to step up otherwise Razor won't hesitate to pull the trigger for Leicester

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                                        • canefanC canefan

                                          @brodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          Anton Lienert-Brown is probably the best distributing centre in NZ - just saying...

                                          When he's not in the bin?

                                          See, none of our contenders are perfect, ALB can't stay on the field, Rieko can't pass and Proctor can't walk on water defend. πŸ˜‰

                                          And Leicester is laughing

                                          @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          Anton Lienert-Brown is probably the best distributing centre in NZ - just saying...

                                          When he's not in the bin?

                                          See, none of our contenders are perfect, ALB can't stay on the field, Rieko can't pass and Proctor can't walk on water defend. πŸ˜‰

                                          And Leicester is laughing

                                          Leicester is an even worse defender than Proctor.

                                          Someone has to step up otherwise Razor won't hesitate to pull the trigger for Leicester

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                                          brodean
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                                          @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          @brodean said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          Anton Lienert-Brown is probably the best distributing centre in NZ - just saying...

                                          When he's not in the bin?

                                          See, none of our contenders are perfect, ALB can't stay on the field, Rieko can't pass and Proctor can't walk on water defend. πŸ˜‰

                                          And Leicester is laughing

                                          @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          @canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          Anton Lienert-Brown is probably the best distributing centre in NZ - just saying...

                                          When he's not in the bin?

                                          See, none of our contenders are perfect, ALB can't stay on the field, Rieko can't pass and Proctor can't walk on water defend. πŸ˜‰

                                          And Leicester is laughing

                                          Leicester is an even worse defender than Proctor.

                                          Someone has to step up otherwise Razor won't hesitate to pull the trigger for Leicester

                                          I think Razor is aware of this hence why he rarely selected him at center for the Crusaders. Rieko at 11 is most at risk.

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