All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Hell fellas, we got this calm down!!!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
I'm not hell, I'm saintly! And I think you need a comma after "this".
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Hell fellas, we got this calm down!!!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
I'm not hell, I'm saintly! And I think you need a comma after "this".
That is Du'Plessis Kirifi punctuation.
Richie McCaw would use a fullstop.
Sam Cane a semicolon.
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The Wallabies are still weakest at set piece. I would expect the All Blacks to look to dominate at that phase. Williams was good against Springboks so he should start with Taylor back. Rest of pack stays. Roigard back, Narawa back ( if fit ) , Jordan back to fullback, Carter to keep his spot. The changes they won’t make but should is at first five - McKenzie or Love, and to get a new backline coach.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
There's trouble in camp.
Jeez, I hope not, but that would align with what @tim wrote a couple of days ago.
Ì'd be amazed if there's not. I'd imagine the ABs is very much like The Fern in terms of general happiness.
The only way to have a happy camp is to keep winning. There will still be plenty of malcontents - but, it's hard to muster a convincing argument against the establishment if you have an unbeaten season.
In the ABs, almost everyone will be thinking they should playing - and their mates should be playing - and the management is incompetent - and we should be doing this instead.
I've never worked for an organization where these conversations weren't happening and if things were going badly, they just intensified.
@Chris-B
For sure, but I was thinking more about Robertson losing the changing room rather than the usual, internal team dynamics
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The Wallabies are still weakest at set piece. I would expect the All Blacks to look to dominate at that phase. Williams was good against Springboks so he should start with Taylor back. Rest of pack stays. Roigard back, Narawa back ( if fit ) , Jordan back to fullback, Carter to keep his spot. The changes they won’t make but should is at first five - McKenzie or Love, and to get a new backline coach.
@kev Yeah - they won't panic and drop everyone.
I'd have been inclined to send a few more of their undercooked players back to NPC to give them gametime - e.g. both Williams and Lomax would have been candidates. I can understand why they didn't (risk of injury), but you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs.
Not sure quite what they'll decide with the loose forwards, midfield (who plays centre) and wing. I don't really have a strong preference at this point.
I'm most interested in what they do at first-five. Do they drop the axe on Beaudy - or is he their man through to the end of the year?
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@kev Yeah - they won't panic and drop everyone.
I'd have been inclined to send a few more of their undercooked players back to NPC to give them gametime - e.g. both Williams and Lomax would have been candidates. I can understand why they didn't (risk of injury), but you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs.
Not sure quite what they'll decide with the loose forwards, midfield (who plays centre) and wing. I don't really have a strong preference at this point.
I'm most interested in what they do at first-five. Do they drop the axe on Beaudy - or is he their man through to the end of the year?
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Do they drop the axe on Beaudy - or is he their man through to the end of the year?
Protected species by the looks.He needs to go to get the backline functioning better.get more direct, LF in the mid field 2nd five maybe,Jordie back to FB Jordan on the wing. with Clarke. Centre well I don't know about Proctor and Reiko seems shot atm.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Do they drop the axe on Beaudy - or is he their man through to the end of the year?
Protected species by the looks.He needs to go to get the backline functioning better.get more direct, LF in the mid field 2nd five maybe,Jordie back to FB Jordan on the wing. with Clarke. Centre well I don't know about Proctor and Reiko seems shot atm.
@Chris I don't think Big Leicester is a compelling option at second-five right now. I think Jordie is locked in in any case.
For the coming weekend, assuming everyone is available - I would probably go something like - Roigard, DMac, Clarke, JBarrett, Ioane, Narawa, Jordan
Ratima, BBarrett, Proctor.
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Roigard, Love, Clarke, Jordie, Proctor, Narawa, Jordan
Ratima, DMac, Ioane
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Hell fellas, we got this calm down!!!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
I'm afraid I do not get @Bull-Dusta vibes from you Dan.
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@kev Yeah - they won't panic and drop everyone.
I'd have been inclined to send a few more of their undercooked players back to NPC to give them gametime - e.g. both Williams and Lomax would have been candidates. I can understand why they didn't (risk of injury), but you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs.
Not sure quite what they'll decide with the loose forwards, midfield (who plays centre) and wing. I don't really have a strong preference at this point.
I'm most interested in what they do at first-five. Do they drop the axe on Beaudy - or is he their man through to the end of the year?
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I'd have been inclined to send a few more of their undercooked players back to NPC to give them gametime - e.g. both Williams and Lomax would have been candidates. I can understand why they didn't (risk of injury), but you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs.
If there's a position (or two) that we have covered it's proposed (both sides)
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@Chris I don't think Big Leicester is a compelling option at second-five right now. I think Jordie is locked in in any case.
For the coming weekend, assuming everyone is available - I would probably go something like - Roigard, DMac, Clarke, JBarrett, Ioane, Narawa, Jordan
Ratima, BBarrett, Proctor.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris I don't think Big Leicester is a compelling option at second-five right now. I think Jordie is locked in in any case.
For the coming weekend, assuming everyone is available - I would probably go something like - Roigard, DMac, Clarke, JBarrett, Ioane, Narawa, Jordan
Ratima, BBarrett, Proctor.
Am a fan of that (maybe Tupaea for Proctor)
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@Chris I don't think Big Leicester is a compelling option at second-five right now. I think Jordie is locked in in any case.
For the coming weekend, assuming everyone is available - I would probably go something like - Roigard, DMac, Clarke, JBarrett, Ioane, Narawa, Jordan
Ratima, BBarrett, Proctor.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris I don't think Big Leicester is a compelling option at second-five right now. I think Jordie is locked in in any case.
For the coming weekend, assuming everyone is available - I would probably go something like - Roigard, DMac, Clarke, JBarrett, Ioane, Narawa, Jordan
Ratima, BBarrett, Proctor.
Am a fan of that (maybe Tupaea for Proctor)
@booboo I like Tupaea, but I didn't think Quinn was good off the bench last week. Willemse's try was his miss.
To be fair, the defence was in disarray in that play - they could have scored in about three directions - but Willemse got a crap pass and still brushed off the defence, which should have been QT.
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Narawa is out
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No chance Razor gambles on Love at 10 with the pressure he's now under.
Could have done it earlier, but now being conservative and getting shit results has him Fostered.
Best we can hope for is McKenzie and Clarke to come in I think -
No chance Razor gambles on Love at 10 with the pressure he's now under.
Could have done it earlier, but now being conservative and getting shit results has him Fostered.
Best we can hope for is McKenzie and Clarke to come in I think@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
McKenzie
I don't think we can hope for that.
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In reality, what do you think we'll see?
I'll start, guessing on availability:
Roigard, Barrett, Clarke, Barrett, Proctor, Narawa / Ioane, Jordan
Ratima, Dmac, Tupaea / Ioane@gt12 As above, I think the really important indicator for 2025 is whether they switch Beaudy for Dmac.
If you don't do it now - I don't see how you could rationally justify it subsequently. Assuming there's not a total meltdown....
You can pretty much justify any other changes.
I want them to play Jordan at fullback at stop fucking about.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Hell fellas, we got this calm down!!!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
I'm not hell, I'm saintly! And I think you need a comma after "this".
That is Du'Plessis Kirifi punctuation.
Richie McCaw would use a fullstop.
Sam Cane a semicolon.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Richie McCaw would use a fullstop.
If you rewind the video I think you'd find he actually used a full stop.
Sam Cane a semicolon.
I suspect you mean "Sam Cane, a semicolon." Unless he has become a punctuation mark.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
McKenzie
I don't think we can hope for that.
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
McKenzie
I don't think we can hope for that.
If I can't hold out hope for that at least, I'd just about stop watching I reckon.
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@nostrildamus collectively, we definitely do not have calm down.
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@nostrildamus collectively, we definitely do not have calm down.
Message received and understood. Have just sent instructions to Macpac NZ to change all their future jacket linings to "angry down".
