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All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I

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    Big Jim in witness protection? Just let him play

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      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

      @george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

      Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.

      They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.

      The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.

      It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.

      I really dislike this. Bending the rules for a guy who has never even really been a first choice AB, when we don't have any midfield injuries, plenty of wingers available, and he hasn't even played a Super game since returning.

      Encouraging guys to go overseas and come back for the WC, or letting them fast-track back in because a coach likes them - it cheapens everything, shits on those who have stayed, and is inarguably to our long-term detriment.

      I'd be hard against it for a Carter or McCaw. For these haven't-beens, it can fuck all the way off.

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      @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

      @george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

      Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.

      They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.

      The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.

      It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.

      I really dislike this. Bending the rules for a guy who has never even really been a first choice AB, when we don't have any midfield injuries, plenty of wingers available, and he hasn't even played a Super game since returning.

      Encouraging guys to go overseas and come back for the WC, or letting them fast-track back in because a coach likes them - it cheapens everything, shits on those who have stayed, and is inarguably to our long-term detriment.

      I'd be hard against it for a Carter or McCaw. For these haven't-beens, it can fuck all the way off.

      Completely agree but also feel conflicted because those that stayed here dont deserve their place either. Its not like he is knocking Conrad Smith out of the squad.

      Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.

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      • game_filmG game_film

        Big Jim in witness protection? Just let him play

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        @game_film said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

        Big Jim in witness protection? Just let him play

        broken arm.

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        • JetJ Jet

          @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

          @george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

          Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.

          They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.

          The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.

          It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.

          I really dislike this. Bending the rules for a guy who has never even really been a first choice AB, when we don't have any midfield injuries, plenty of wingers available, and he hasn't even played a Super game since returning.

          Encouraging guys to go overseas and come back for the WC, or letting them fast-track back in because a coach likes them - it cheapens everything, shits on those who have stayed, and is inarguably to our long-term detriment.

          I'd be hard against it for a Carter or McCaw. For these haven't-beens, it can fuck all the way off.

          Completely agree but also feel conflicted because those that stayed here dont deserve their place either. Its not like he is knocking Conrad Smith out of the squad.

          Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.

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          @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

          @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

          @george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

          Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.

          They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.

          The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.

          It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.

          I really dislike this. Bending the rules for a guy who has never even really been a first choice AB, when we don't have any midfield injuries, plenty of wingers available, and he hasn't even played a Super game since returning.

          Encouraging guys to go overseas and come back for the WC, or letting them fast-track back in because a coach likes them - it cheapens everything, shits on those who have stayed, and is inarguably to our long-term detriment.

          I'd be hard against it for a Carter or McCaw. For these haven't-beens, it can fuck all the way off.

          Completely agree but also feel conflicted because those that stayed here dont deserve their place either. Its not like he is knocking Conrad Smith out of the squad.

          Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.

          They're not that crap though, not really.
          Rieko was good in the last WC, Proctor has had a great Super season, and ALB is a long-term AB - he may be past his best, but he's not actually a terrible footy player.
          My point being that none of them are as bad as they are being made to look in our backline - which suggest the problem is not whoever plays at centre - and that means parachuting in Leicester solves fuck-all.

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            @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

            @george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

            Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.

            They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.

            The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.

            It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.

            I really dislike this. Bending the rules for a guy who has never even really been a first choice AB, when we don't have any midfield injuries, plenty of wingers available, and he hasn't even played a Super game since returning.

            Encouraging guys to go overseas and come back for the WC, or letting them fast-track back in because a coach likes them - it cheapens everything, shits on those who have stayed, and is inarguably to our long-term detriment.

            I'd be hard against it for a Carter or McCaw. For these haven't-beens, it can fuck all the way off.

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            @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

            @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

            @george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

            Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.

            They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.

            The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.

            It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.

            I really dislike this. Bending the rules for a guy who has never even really been a first choice AB, when we don't have any midfield injuries, plenty of wingers available, and he hasn't even played a Super game since returning.

            Encouraging guys to go overseas and come back for the WC, or letting them fast-track back in because a coach likes them - it cheapens everything, shits on those who have stayed, and is inarguably to our long-term detriment.

            I'd be hard against it for a Carter or McCaw. For these haven't-beens, it can fuck all the way off.

            He’s not those guys.

            Shit he’s not even Richie Mounga…..remind me what amazing thing LF has done at the top level against the best teams ?

            IMG_5475.jpeg

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            • MN5M MN5

              @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

              @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

              @george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

              Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.

              They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.

              The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.

              It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.

              I really dislike this. Bending the rules for a guy who has never even really been a first choice AB, when we don't have any midfield injuries, plenty of wingers available, and he hasn't even played a Super game since returning.

              Encouraging guys to go overseas and come back for the WC, or letting them fast-track back in because a coach likes them - it cheapens everything, shits on those who have stayed, and is inarguably to our long-term detriment.

              I'd be hard against it for a Carter or McCaw. For these haven't-beens, it can fuck all the way off.

              He’s not those guys.

              Shit he’s not even Richie Mounga…..remind me what amazing thing LF has done at the top level against the best teams ?

              IMG_5475.jpeg

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              @MN5 up vote for the Super Troopers reference.

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                This bending over backwards for Leicester Fai'anganuku better be worth it. How has a 7 test AB demanded this much attention....

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @MN5 up vote for the Super Troopers reference.

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                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                  @MN5 up vote for the Super Troopers reference.

                  Razor has been littering and, littering and, littering and……..smoking the reefer

                  The rule bending for a guy with SEVEN AB caps ( two of which are against powerhouses Namibia and Uruguay ) is cringeworthy.

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                  • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                    This bending over backwards for Leicester Fai'anganuku better be worth it. How has a 7 test AB demanded this much attention....

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                      @MN5 up vote for the Super Troopers reference.

                      Razor has been littering and, littering and, littering and……..smoking the reefer

                      The rule bending for a guy with SEVEN AB caps ( two of which are against powerhouses Namibia and Uruguay ) is cringeworthy.

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                      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                      @MN5 up vote for the Super Troopers reference.

                      Razor has been littering and, littering and, littering and……..smoking the reefer

                      The rule bending for a guy with SEVEN AB caps ( two of which are against powerhouses Namibia and Uruguay ) is cringeworthy.

                      And were any of those tests played in the midfield or were they all on the wing?

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                      • ShaquilleOatmealS ShaquilleOatmeal

                        @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        @MN5 up vote for the Super Troopers reference.

                        Razor has been littering and, littering and, littering and……..smoking the reefer

                        The rule bending for a guy with SEVEN AB caps ( two of which are against powerhouses Namibia and Uruguay ) is cringeworthy.

                        And were any of those tests played in the midfield or were they all on the wing?

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                        @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        @MN5 up vote for the Super Troopers reference.

                        Razor has been littering and, littering and, littering and……..smoking the reefer

                        The rule bending for a guy with SEVEN AB caps ( two of which are against powerhouses Namibia and Uruguay ) is cringeworthy.

                        And were any of those tests played in the midfield or were they all on the wing?

                        Without checking I’m 100% sure they were all on the wing. Excellent preparation for a future at 12 or 13 at test level.

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                          @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                          @MN5 up vote for the Super Troopers reference.

                          Razor has been littering and, littering and, littering and……..smoking the reefer

                          The rule bending for a guy with SEVEN AB caps ( two of which are against powerhouses Namibia and Uruguay ) is cringeworthy.

                          And were any of those tests played in the midfield or were they all on the wing?

                          Without checking I’m 100% sure they were all on the wing. Excellent preparation for a future at 12 or 13 at test level.

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                          @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                          @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                          @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                          @MN5 up vote for the Super Troopers reference.

                          Razor has been littering and, littering and, littering and……..smoking the reefer

                          The rule bending for a guy with SEVEN AB caps ( two of which are against powerhouses Namibia and Uruguay ) is cringeworthy.

                          And were any of those tests played in the midfield or were they all on the wing?

                          Without checking I’m 100% sure they were all on the wing. Excellent preparation for a future at 12 or 13 at test level.

                          A bit like the calls to play Love at First five with no games in that position at First five and only 6 at SR level.

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                            With over 50 games in the MF for Ta$man and Toulon Leicester Fai'anganuku has played, he has enough experience in that position to be tried there for the ABs.
                            If the criteria is but not at international Level then no new players can ever gets selected for the ABs as they have never played there.

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                              Leicester doesn't deserve to be in the ABs, I think he has scored 3 tries in the last 2 games and that really doesn't fit the current tactics.
                              NB he has played against France when in the ABs.

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                                No leaks on social media as of yet. Perhaps those types of pages were spying on the fern👀

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                                  With over 50 games in the MF for Ta$man and Toulon Leicester Fai'anganuku has played, he has enough experience in that position to be tried there for the ABs.
                                  If the criteria is but not at international Level then no new players can ever gets selected for the ABs as they have never played there.

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                                  @Chris The issue is him being fast-tracked back in to play a position he hasn't played at test level - if that's what's actually happening - not that he hasn't played in the midfield at lower levels. The NPC is quite a step down even from Super Rugby and reports of his recent time in France have been mixed.

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                                  • Landers92L Landers92

                                    No leaks on social media as of yet. Perhaps those types of pages were spying on the fern👀

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                                    @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                    No leaks on social media as of yet. Perhaps those types of pages were spying on the fern👀

                                    Well the nice thing about that is that whoever was doing it can read us telling them to go and fuck themselves.

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                                    • Landers92L Landers92

                                      No leaks on social media as of yet. Perhaps those types of pages were spying on the fern👀

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                                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                      No leaks on social media as of yet. Perhaps those types of pages were spying on the fern👀

                                      100% they just copy and paste you

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                                      • Landers92L Landers92

                                        No leaks on social media as of yet. Perhaps those types of pages were spying on the fern👀

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                                        @Landers92 Over the years there's been various media people who have posted here and confirmed that quite a few other media people are lurkers.

                                        Not sure if there still are, but it's not surprising - there's not many other places you can get hot oil about who headbutted Razor.... or take the pulse of the nation!

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                                          With over 50 games in the MF for Ta$man and Toulon Leicester Fai'anganuku has played, he has enough experience in that position to be tried there for the ABs.
                                          If the criteria is but not at international Level then no new players can ever gets selected for the ABs as they have never played there.

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                                          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                          With over 50 games in the MF for Ta$man and Toulon Leicester Fai'anganuku has played, he has enough experience in that position to be tried there for the ABs.

                                          Ta$man? Well fuck, we've unearthed the next McCaw - pluck him straight out of the NPC and watch him dominate! Except for on defence as his stats showed at Toulon.

                                          If the criteria is but not at international Level then no new players can ever gets selected for the ABs as they have never played there.

                                          Demonstrate competency at SR level. He has no body of work against his peers justifying selection.

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