All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I

[booboo]

@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

Same old shit selections win this one then get smoked in Perth.
Pattern remains the same so no chance of progression.

I probably missed any suggestion you made prior to (all the conjecture just became white noise). But what would be your changes?

[taniwharugby]

@brodean well my eye test didnt see him anywhere near as effective as last year, guess I was wrong.

[Chris]

@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

Same old shit selections win this one then get smoked in Perth.
Pattern remains the same so no chance of progression.

I probably missed any suggestion you made prior to (all the conjecture just became white noise). But what would be your changes?

I would be more radical

D Mac to first five,Love to the bench BB gone,
LF to centre someone who can bend the line.
Especiallyas Suaali’i is not a great defender.
Williams would start Norris on the bench another ball runner.
And play more direct with those changes.

[Dan54]

@Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel

[brodean]

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@brodean well my eye test didnt see him anywhere near as effective as last year, guess I was wrong.

Midfield ( Leicesters stats from France are considered ). Stats of 23 midfielders this year.

Dominant Carry % (desc)
59.3 AJ Lam
56.8 Sam Gilbert
53.9 Tanielu Tele'a
53.3 Leicester Fainga'anuku
51.7 Bailyn Sullivan
48.0 Peter Umaga-Jensen

Gainline %
80.0 AJ Lam
76.7 Xavi Taele
75.7 Riley Higgins
75.0 Julian Savea
67.8 Sam Gilbert
64.2 Quinn Tupaea

Carries Committing 2+ Tacklers
82.1% Julian Savea
75.3% AJ Lam
71.6% Timoci Tavatavanawai
70.6% Levi Aumua
67.0% Quinn Tupaea
65.0% Leicester Fainga'anuku

Tackle Evasion %
43.2 Billy Proctor
37.7 Timoci Tavatavanawai
34.3 AJ Lam
32.2 Leicester Fainga'anuku
31.2 Peter Umaga-Jensen
30.5 David Havili

Tackle Success
93.3% Anton Lienert-Brown
90.0% Braydon Ennor
88.7% Jordie Barrett
88.7% Xavi Taele
88.5% Quinn Tupaea
87.9% AJ Lam

Dominant Tackle %
17.5 Braydon Ennor
14.9 Billy Proctor
9.5 AJ Lam
8.6 Gideon Wrampling
8.6 Lalomilo Lalomilo
8.3 Sam Gilbert

Lam is the only midfielder featuring in all these stats near the top out of 23 players.

[Chris]

@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@brodean well my eye test didnt see him anywhere near as effective as last year, guess I was wrong.

Midfield ( Leicesters stats from France are considered ). Stats of 23 midfielders this year.

Dominant Carry % (desc)
59.3 AJ Lam
56.8 Sam Gilbert
53.9 Tanielu Tele'a
53.3 Leicester Fainga'anuku
51.7 Bailyn Sullivan
48.0 Peter Umaga-Jensen

Gainline %
80.0 AJ Lam
76.7 Xavi Taele
75.7 Riley Higgins
75.0 Julian Savea
67.8 Sam Gilbert
64.2 Quinn Tupaea

Carries Committing 2+ Tacklers
82.1% Julian Savea
75.3% AJ Lam
71.6% Timoci Tavatavanawai
70.6% Levi Aumua
67.0% Quinn Tupaea
65.0% Leicester Fainga'anuku

Tackle Evasion %
43.2 Billy Proctor
37.7 Timoci Tavatavanawai
34.3 AJ Lam
32.2 Leicester Fainga'anuku
31.2 Peter Umaga-Jensen
30.5 David Havili

Tackle Success
93.3% Anton Lienert-Brown
90.0% Braydon Ennor
88.7% Jordie Barrett
88.7% Xavi Taele
88.5% Quinn Tupaea
87.9% AJ Lam

Dominant Tackle %
17.5 Braydon Ennor
14.9 Billy Proctor
9.5 AJ Lam
8.6 Gideon Wrampling
8.6 Lalomilo Lalomilo
8.3 Sam Gilbert

Lam is the only midfielder featuring in all these stats near the top out of 23 players.

Those stats also show Ennor is the best defensive centre by a long way.

[Chris]

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel

Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.

[Dan54]

@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel

Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.

Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'

[booboo]

@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

Same old shit selections win this one then get smoked in Perth.
Pattern remains the same so no chance of progression.

I probably missed any suggestion you made prior to (all the conjecture just became white noise). But what would be your changes?

I would be more radical

D Mac to first five,Love to the bench BB gone,
LF to centre someone who can bend the line.
Especiallyas Suaali’i is not a great defender.
Williams would start Norris on the bench another ball runner.
And play more direct with those changes.

I'm with you at 10.
Not on the LF wagon (but not delighted with our options)
And Norris is injured.

[Chris]

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel

Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.

Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'

Let’s see how Procter handles Suaali’i it maybe carnage.
Maybe it was miss communication between LF and French speaking players around him with Toulon.

[Chris B.]

@brodean Are those stats only for games when those guys played in the midfield - or are they season stats for guys who sometimes played in other positions?

[Chris]

@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

Same old shit selections win this one then get smoked in Perth.
Pattern remains the same so no chance of progression.

I probably missed any suggestion you made prior to (all the conjecture just became white noise). But what would be your changes?

I would be more radical

D Mac to first five,Love to the bench BB gone,
LF to centre someone who can bend the line.
Especiallyas Suaali’i is not a great defender.
Williams would start Norris on the bench another ball runner.
And play more direct with those changes.

I'm with you at 10.
Not on the LF wagon (but not delighted with our options)
And Norris is injured.

Is he ? Bower was released last week and he was cover for Norris,Since Bower has not come back to the squad I though Norris was now fit,

[Chris]

@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@brodean Are those stats only for games when those guys played in the midfield - or are they season stats for guys who sometimes played in other positions?

Lams form has also fallen off a cliff in NPC he has been poor.

[NTA]

@bayimports said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

great additions, BB still remains though, so I remain nervous

I predict he will pull off all the bullshit moves and win the game handily, so you all forget how bang ordinary he is.

Razor will be a genius

[Dan54]

@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel

Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.

Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'

Let’s see how Procter handles Suaali’i it maybe carnage.
Maybe it was miss communication between LF and French speaking players around him with Toulon.

I hoped so , and I not saying Procyor great, all I saying LF was poor in France, I hope it was miscommunication, but at times he didn't even attempt tackles which what worried me , an awful lot.

[bayimports]

@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@bayimports said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

great additions, BB still remains though, so I remain nervous

I predict he will pull off all the bullshit moves and win the game handily, so you all forget how bang ordinary he is.

Razor will be a genius

sadism runs strong with this one

[Chris]

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@Chris mate did you see LF defense stats etc in club rugby in France.. He was worst centre over the season in top 14, by quite a bit. The couple of games I saw him play, he made a few breaks and looked great on attack but abysmal on defense, in that he seemed to not even attempt tackles at time. Reckon JAS would have fun running in his channel

Suaali’i is very poor defensively and could have kittens trying to defend LF.
Procter adds nothing on attack or defence.

Yep, but LF is poor on defense and so would be doing same surely. Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times. he may of been confused with defsive set up team used or something, and hope they working on it'

Let’s see how Procter handles Suaali’i it maybe carnage.
Maybe it was miss communication between LF and French speaking players around him with Toulon.

I hoped so , and I not saying Procyor great, all I saying LF was poor in France, I hope it was miscommunication, but at times he didn't even attempt tackles which what worried me , an awful lot.

That is fine mate I understand what you are saying

[taniwharugby]

@NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive

[ACT Crusader]

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive

Forgive is such a strong word…..

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Euy8PbbJu/?mibextid=wwXIfr

[MN5]

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

@NTA the fern never forgets, we briefly forgive

Forgive is such a strong word…..

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Euy8PbbJu/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Mortlock. Hell of a player. Especially against NZ.