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All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I

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  • ChrisC Chris

    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
    Those stats also show Ennor is the best defensive centre by a long way.

    I think he's a very good defender but its not really clear that he's the best. Both Ennor and ALB didn't make a lot of tackles over the season.

    In terms of completed tackles per 80 minutes Ennor is ranked 18 out of 23.

    Well of course that depends on the possession stats how many tackles per 80 min you can make.
    And how the opposition uses possession.

    David Havili was doing all of Ennor's defensive work for him.

    Tackles Per 80 Minutes
    17.51 David Havili
    7.49 Braydon Ennor

    Has he though ? stats do not tell you that .
    It could be the opposition are using the channel Havilli defends in.

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    @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

    Has he though ? stats do not tell you that .
    It could be the opposition are using the channel Havilli defends in.

    why would they do that I wonder? < Thinks>.

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    • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

      @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

      I'm feeling at least as confident as I dd for the last game!

      Also we aren't facing RG Snyman. That dude gives me nightmares.

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      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

      @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

      I'm feeling at least as confident as I dd for the last game!

      Also we aren't facing RG Snyman. That dude gives me nightmares.

      Always a pleasure to have an AB on the fern. Welcome.

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      • No QuarterN No Quarter

        I see the TAB has us at $1.16 and Aus at $5. That's some seriously good money on Aus, they are every chance to beat us this weekend and on form should do so. They are banking on the Eden Park record and an Aus mental block to get the ABs home.

        Personally I am picking Aus by 7 - 10 points, we are consistently shit in the final 20 and their coach is so much better than ours it's not even funny.

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        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

        I see the TAB has us at $1.16 and Aus at $5. That's some seriously good money on Aus, they are every chance to beat us this weekend and on form should do so. They are banking on the Eden Park record and an Aus mental block to get the ABs home.

        That's good money and with good reason. It's a bloody hard place to win for foreign teams. ABs are going to be steaming after the record loss.

        The odds might be better for Australia if we had Skelton, Valetini, Wright, and a backup 10 with a decent level of experience.

        Sensible odds I think.

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        • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

          @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

          I'm feeling at least as confident as I dd for the last game!

          Also we aren't facing RG Snyman. That dude gives me nightmares.

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          @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

          Also we aren't facing RG Snyman.

          You mean staring helplessly upwards while in a quivering foetal position...

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          • P pakman

            @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

            This team is stronger than the AB side v SA.
            Holland is a ball supply unit, Roigard's defensive kicking ability, PT in good form and Clarke's aerial skills.
            Good to see Carter retained on the wing.

            The Holland hype train has got to stop. He’s let in two tries in a row with lazy ruck defence

            The last one was more being overly eager.

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            @pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

            @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

            This team is stronger than the AB side v SA.
            Holland is a ball supply unit, Roigard's defensive kicking ability, PT in good form and Clarke's aerial skills.
            Good to see Carter retained on the wing.

            The Holland hype train has got to stop. He’s let in two tries in a row with lazy ruck defence

            The last one was more being overly eager.

            Tomato tomato

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            • TimT Tim

              @No-Quarter Valetini is a big loss for them.

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              @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

              @No-Quarter Valetini is a big loss for them.

              Indeed. And two of their best back 3 players are also out.

              No excuses aye Razor….

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                I’d much rather see a very clinical 24-3 win than a blow out 40 odd to high 20s and leaking tries. See a game plan that is executed with minimal error.

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                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                  @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                  Has he though ? stats do not tell you that .
                  It could be the opposition are using the channel Havilli defends in.

                  why would they do that I wonder? < Thinks>.

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                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                  @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                  Has he though ? stats do not tell you that .
                  It could be the opposition are using the channel Havilli defends in.

                  why would they do that I wonder? < Thinks>.

                  Because they were worried about Ennor.:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                    To add to my post above: McDermott has question marks over his ability to start a test. He's been good as a super sub against tired bodies or on the wing - need to see him translate that to Starting Test Scrum Half

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                      So we are watching :
                      A functioning lineout: Return of Holland and Taylor's throwing accuracy.
                      Improving fitness for Lomax, Roigard and Sititi.
                      Roigard's kicking
                      Proctor's attacking involvement.
                      Potential changing of the guard with Lakai.
                      More from Carter, promising so far.
                      and Smiling %

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        Has he though ? stats do not tell you that .
                        It could be the opposition are using the channel Havilli defends in.

                        why would they do that I wonder? < Thinks>.

                        Because they were worried about Ennor.:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        Has he though ? stats do not tell you that .
                        It could be the opposition are using the channel Havilli defends in.

                        why would they do that I wonder? < Thinks>.

                        Because they were worried about Ennor.:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                        That they might accidentally break him. ... Again ..

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                          For me Quinn Tupaea is also lucky. He showed a lot of promise during Super Rugby but he was disappointing in this RC especially in the last game.

                          He was one of the players walking in the last 15 minutes.

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                          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                          @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                          For me Quinn Tupaea is also lucky. He showed a lot of promise during Super Rugby but he was disappointing in this RC especially in the last game.

                          He was one of the players walking in the last 15 minutes.

                          One of the others has been made captain. Hopefully he tries a bit harder now.

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                          • R reprobate

                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                            @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                            For me Quinn Tupaea is also lucky. He showed a lot of promise during Super Rugby but he was disappointing in this RC especially in the last game.

                            He was one of the players walking in the last 15 minutes.

                            One of the others has been made captain. Hopefully he tries a bit harder now.

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                            @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                            @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                            For me Quinn Tupaea is also lucky. He showed a lot of promise during Super Rugby but he was disappointing in this RC especially in the last game.

                            He was one of the players walking in the last 15 minutes.

                            One of the others has been made captain. Hopefully he tries a bit harder now.

                            Don’t worry, this is his house (the one with a rather empty trophy cabinet)

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                            • jimmybJ jimmyb

                              @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                              @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                              @brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                              For me Quinn Tupaea is also lucky. He showed a lot of promise during Super Rugby but he was disappointing in this RC especially in the last game.

                              He was one of the players walking in the last 15 minutes.

                              One of the others has been made captain. Hopefully he tries a bit harder now.

                              Don’t worry, this is his house (the one with a rather empty trophy cabinet)

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                              @jimmyb well to be fair I laze around my house too.

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                stats are great, until they arent.

                                "Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 14% of people know that"

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                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                stats are great, until they arent.

                                "Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 14% of people know that"

                                Jeez if you're gonna quote Homer then at least get the words correct

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                                • SammyCS SammyC

                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                  stats are great, until they arent.

                                  "Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 14% of people know that"

                                  Jeez if you're gonna quote Homer then at least get the words correct

                                  8f814869-927b-4078-a917-fbd0b6de0485-image.png

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                                  @SammyC said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                  Jeez if you're gonna quote Homer then at least get the words correct

                                  Why? Homer doesn't!

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                                  • SammyCS SammyC

                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                    stats are great, until they arent.

                                    "Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 14% of people know that"

                                    Jeez if you're gonna quote Homer then at least get the words correct

                                    8f814869-927b-4078-a917-fbd0b6de0485-image.png

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                                    @SammyC 70% of the time I get it right every time.

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                                    • M mohikamo

                                      Is it just me . . .
                                      This is just about the most interesting AB match for me, since i'd say the 2015 WCF.

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                                      @mohikamo Not that far back surely. The one in SA when it was do or die time for Fozzie was the most compelling since then. Or any of the games vs Ireland. Most interesting Bledisloe for a long, long time though.

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                                        We win this week and lose in Perth I reckon,

                                        Boks beat the pumas twice and secure the RC

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                                        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                          We win this week and lose in Perth I reckon,

                                          Boks beat the pumas twice and secure the RC

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                                          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                          We win this week and lose in Perth I reckon,

                                          Boks beat the pumas twice and secure the RC

                                          If we go 1-1 or 0-2 with Aussie I think he should be fired.

                                          You can’t be losing every second game.

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