Should this week's test be the ushering-in of a new era for All Blacks?
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@reprobate last season was enough for me for DMac. He was at his erratic best, crabbing across field and putting pressure on our outsides. Plus he also had kicking issues. Yes Barrett has been poor this year but I think DMac is at best a 15 back up.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Should this week's test be the ushering-in of a new era for All Blacks?:
@reprobate last season was enough for me for DMac. He was at his erratic best, crabbing across field and putting pressure on our outsides. Plus he also had kicking issues. Yes Barrett has been poor this year but I think DMac is at best a 15 back up.
Yeah, I disagree - but hey that opinion is fine - I've lost patience with players in short periods of time, I just don't see anyone else banging on the door.
It's the talking about them as if they've both had a mountain of opportunities that irks me, because it's demonstrably false - it's like 60 tests Beauden has started at 10. Before last year Damian had started 5. -
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@ACT-Crusader said in Should this week's test be the ushering-in of a new era for All Blacks?:
@reprobate last season was enough for me for DMac. He was at his erratic best, crabbing across field and putting pressure on our outsides. Plus he also had kicking issues. Yes Barrett has been poor this year but I think DMac is at best a 15 back up.
including the Ireland game?
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there is nobody else as they haven't bothered to develop anyone else as a 10.
Give Dmac the reins
Get Love to play 10 fulltime at Hurricanes to see how he goes
Leaving BB there seems like a good way to gift the job back to Mounga when he returns so the public believe he is the only answer to the mess we are seeing. -
While Dmac can be erratic, I think he can at least provide a better service to those outside him, and based on how the ABs are tracking, how the Blues played with BB at the helm (vs Plummer last year) they really need to give Dmac (or someone else) more than a few mins at the back end of a test.
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@taniwharugby said in Should this week's test be the ushering-in of a new era for All Blacks?:
While Dmac can be erratic, I think he can at least provide a better service to those outside him, and based on how the ABs are tracking, how the Blues played with BB at the helm (vs Plummer last year) they really need to give Dmac (or someone else) more than a few mins at the back end of a test.
If the coaches don't see anyone better than BB they are part of the problem. Or maybe we are the problem??
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@nzzp said in Should this week's test be the ushering-in of a new era for All Blacks?:
@ACT-Crusader said in Should this week's test be the ushering-in of a new era for All Blacks?:
@reprobate last season was enough for me for DMac. He was at his erratic best, crabbing across field and putting pressure on our outsides. Plus he also had kicking issues. Yes Barrett has been poor this year but I think DMac is at best a 15 back up.
including the Ireland game?
Outside of DMac, who was nothing more than solid in that match, it's pretty damning that the best performance everyone talks about in the Razor era was against an error strewn Irish side that more lost the game than us winning it with the sheer number of basic mistakes they made. We really do rely on the opposition being below par for us to win at the moment, but if they are on form, look out, that's what happened in Wellington.
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The annoying thing about the 10 issue is that by comparison the South Africans also have challenges with their players..... Yet they rotate and when Libbok shit the bed in Joburg they brought in Pollard who was then left out in Wellington. Erasmus will tinker with the team and experiment.
Meanwhile Razor just plays BB 24/7. DMac has one start this year and there is not even a third 10 in the picture. At the very least he could vary it up to keep the opposition guessing. There is no depth being built in the position, neither is there any innovation, it's just heavy doses of Beauden Barrett.
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@nonpartizan said in Should this week's test be the ushering-in of a new era for All Blacks?:
The annoying thing about the 10 issue is that by comparison the South Africans also have challenges with their players..... Yet they rotate and when Libbok shit the bed in Joburg they brought in Pollard who was then left out in Wellington. Erasmus will tinker with the team and experiment.
Meanwhile Razor just plays BB 24/7. DMac has one start this year and there is not even a third 10 in the picture. At the very least he could vary it up to keep the opposition guessing. There is no depth being built in the position, neither is there any innovation, it's just heavy doses of Beauden Barrett.
RM is his worst kept secret #1
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@nonpartizan said in Should this week's test be the ushering-in of a new era for All Blacks?:
The annoying thing about the 10 issue is that by comparison the South Africans also have challenges with their players..... Yet they rotate and when Libbok shit the bed in Joburg they brought in Pollard who was then left out in Wellington. Erasmus will tinker with the team and experiment.
Meanwhile Razor just plays BB 24/7. DMac has one start this year and there is not even a third 10 in the picture. At the very least he could vary it up to keep the opposition guessing. There is no depth being built in the position, neither is there any innovation, it's just heavy doses of Beauden Barrett.
Just relax. Everything will be fine once the vastly improved Richie Mounga comes back.
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@MN5 said in Should this week's test be the ushering-in of a new era for All Blacks?:
@nonpartizan said in Should this week's test be the ushering-in of a new era for All Blacks?:
The annoying thing about the 10 issue is that by comparison the South Africans also have challenges with their players..... Yet they rotate and when Libbok shit the bed in Joburg they brought in Pollard who was then left out in Wellington. Erasmus will tinker with the team and experiment.
Meanwhile Razor just plays BB 24/7. DMac has one start this year and there is not even a third 10 in the picture. At the very least he could vary it up to keep the opposition guessing. There is no depth being built in the position, neither is there any innovation, it's just heavy doses of Beauden Barrett.
Just relax. Everything will be fine once the vastly improved Richie Mounga comes back.
Will he ride on Santa's sleigh and come down the chimney with all of Razor's other presents?
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@canefan said in Should this week's test be the ushering-in of a new era for All Blacks?:
@MN5 said in Should this week's test be the ushering-in of a new era for All Blacks?:
Their next game of squash might have an extra edge….
Wow, that's a bold call from someone suckling on the Sky sport teat
Well he can’t have any drunken rumbles with Akira Ioane so this is the next best thing I guess
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@No-Quarter said in Should this week's test be the ushering-in of a new era for All Blacks?:
@nzzp said in Should this week's test be the ushering-in of a new era for All Blacks?:
@ACT-Crusader said in Should this week's test be the ushering-in of a new era for All Blacks?:
@reprobate last season was enough for me for DMac. He was at his erratic best, crabbing across field and putting pressure on our outsides. Plus he also had kicking issues. Yes Barrett has been poor this year but I think DMac is at best a 15 back up.
including the Ireland game?
Outside of DMac, who was nothing more than solid in that match, it's pretty damning that the best performance everyone talks about in the Razor era was against an error strewn Irish side that more lost the game than us winning it with the sheer number of basic mistakes they made. We really do rely on the opposition being below par for us to win at the moment, but if they are on form, look out, that's what happened in Wellington.
I agree, I don't think McKenzie was particularly great vs Ireland, but as you say he was solid, and solid is a step up from what we have at present (with far fewer opportunities given), and there are a lot of people on here talking about Plummer not getting a go, and maybe try Reihana etc - and at best those guys are solid.
McKenzie first half SA #1 last year was genuinely good. Admittedly Barrett has flashes too (France C 1st test) where he looks good, but it's against lesser opposition and we know it's just a flash, there will be no consistent improvement, because he's played a lot of tests. You just can't have a guy whose whole skillset is making the unlikely miracle play as your 10 and think that you're going to win consistently. -
